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PleasantSurprise · 07-08-2013, 11:10 PM

With a 30 minute rate and discounts to P411 members, not every date with me is $400 or greater.

And I don't limit the number of murps to one time.

I'll have to think about this Hooker 101 discount and how it would work.

KCQuestor · 07-09-2013, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PleasantSurprise

How do you respond when the client asks, "I thought you enjoyed our time together and wanted to stay longer..."?

Of course that's what he thought. That's what he is supposed to think if you are doing your job right -- making him feel like you want to be there is the number one characteristic of GFE. But it shouldn't ever get to that stage. If you have already gone over, you accept that you should have ended it, and if he is a gentleman he will tip for the extra time. but he doesn't owe you. It is your OTHER job to end the session on time.

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What is a polite way to let a client know you aren't a clock watcher, yet 60 minutes means as close to 60 minutes as possible?

Well, that is being a clockwatcher. But in a good way. The bad way is saying at 55 minutes "You have five minutes left." The better way is taking your cues from him and saying something like I mentioned above: "Sweetie, it is getting close to the end of our time. Did you want to extend or is there something I can do to help you finish?"

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If you have been staying over on time with a specific client, but want to let him know for future reference that dates will be limited to the time scheduled, how can a provider tread lightly and address this without hurting feelings?

I guess it depends on how much over you are going. is he taking 90 minutes but paying for 60? Or is it just 10-15 minutes? Is the overtime from small talk and cleaning up and just taking his time, or is he taking advantage of activities for the full time?

You have to be honest with him. You enjoy your time together and while just starting out you didn't feel comfortable cutting your dates at the end of the appointment. You could be a good businesswoman and offer this regular client an extended session at a discount, or just grandfather him in to the longer time at the regular rate. Sometimes you should give regular customers a bit extra. At my bar, I get a really nice pour from my favorite bartender. But then, she also gets a nice tip...

PleasantSurprise · 07-09-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCQuestor

The provider is a service professional and it is her responsibility to note the time.

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I also tend to set a BOMB timer on these select few guys and it will BLOW UP one time after 15-30 whatever min and they know then its time to GO!

I'm trying to envision myself giving the "your time is up" hint.

What if you could know when time was about up without ever having to look at a clock?

iOS Sleep Timer with Pandora

For a 1 hour appointment, set the timer for 55 minutes. Pandora plays for 55 minutes, then shuts off. Music off means time is up. At that point, even if it does take another 10 minutes to finish, the date can still conclude within 5 minutes of the scheduled 60.

CaptainKaos · 07-09-2013, 07:26 PM

Why do you care so much? If you feel a guy is taking advantage, would you want to see him again? Conversely, if a guy feels the woman thinks he's a jerk, he probably doesn't want to see her again. You can't have hard and fast rules at your level, Pleasant. You have to size up your client and think what the long-term payout will be. If a guy runs long, but has a high probability of being a regular you might want to let it slide. If a guy is a one-time penny pincher, you might feel better drawing a hard line.

MsElena · 07-09-2013, 07:50 PM

I use to use an egg timer. Soon as you heard that buzzing.....time's up, get dressed and get your ass out the door.

OK.....seriously, I kept time based up the music I played. I always felt it was the responsibility of both parties, but if you give a guy an inch, he's going to try to take a foot. So, I decided a long time that I would keep track.

As Capt said, you have to be able to read your client and even then you could be wrong. You just have to do what is best for YOU and can't compare yourself to anyone else when it comes to this business in any manner.

KCQuestor · 07-09-2013, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainKaos

You can't have hard and fast rules at your level, Pleasant. You have to size up your client and think what the long-term payout will be. If a guy runs long, but has a high probability of being a regular you might want to let it slide. If a guy is a one-time penny pincher, you might feel better drawing a hard line.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at, but not as clearly. A $400 per hour lady needs to be more flexible and willing to adapt to an individual client. Losing a regular client is a much bigger deal to someone at your level than to a less expensive provider. A bad review has much greater impact for you, as well.

Doug28 · 07-09-2013, 08:51 PM

I have always taken the responsibility of watching the clock. If the provider is into it she will ask you to hang around or tease you about having somewhere better to be. If she asks me to stay then stay I will.

The best non offensive line ever used on me was " honey, we are almost out of time, anything special you want before we are done?"

Allie_Kat · 07-09-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainKaos

Why do you care so much? If you feel a guy is taking advantage, would you want to see him again? Conversely, if a guy feels the woman thinks he's a jerk, he probably doesn't want to see her again. You can't have hard and fast rules at your level, Pleasant. You have to size up your client and think what the long-term payout will be. If a guy runs long, but has a high probability of being a regular you might want to let it slide. If a guy is a one-time penny pincher, you might feel better drawing a hard line.

This sums it up.

PleasantSurprise · 07-10-2013, 10:31 AM

Good questions!

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Why do you care so much?
I care because that's the type of person I am. And I'm curious, always seeking ways I can make my dates run more smoothly and with both parties very happy with each other afterwards.

If you feel a guy is taking advantage, would you want to see him again?
Depends if it continues.
If it's known, and then we have another date going beyond 10-15 minutes over, I would not want to see him again.
If it's known, and then we have another date ending roughly around the time scheduled, yes I would want and be more than willing to see him again.

Conversely, if a guy feels the woman thinks he's a jerk, he probably doesn't want to see her again.
I wouldn't consider a person a jerk based upon a misunderstanding.
I would consider them a jerk if they know my position and they still book a date and stay over.

You can't have hard and fast rules at your level, Pleasant.
I thought providers could set their own rules; and it's up to the client to determine whether or not to see the provider?

You have to size up your client and think what the long-term payout will be.
Ok.

If a guy runs long, but has a high probability of being a regular you might want to let it slide. If a guy is a one-time penny pincher, you might feel better drawing a hard line.
To me it's more about the respect. It doesn't seem fair for a client to request a 1.5 hour date then assume it is ok to stay 2 or more hours. But not only that, if I had two clients requesting a 1.5 hour date on the same day.... if one client generally stays the agreed upon time and the other would most likely stay 30+ minutes over..... then I would be more inclined to say yes to the one who respects a 1.5 hour date as 90 minutes. Overstayers would always be a second pick, but most likely declined entirely. It's more about the principle than anything. If a client knows a provider doesn't want him to stay beyond their scheduled time, doing so would be an indirect way of him saying, "I know you care about the time, but I don't."

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Originally Posted by KCQuestor

A $400 per hour lady needs to be more flexible and willing to adapt to an individual client. Losing a regular client is a much bigger deal to someone at your level than to a less expensive provider. A bad review has much greater impact for you, as well.

Flexibility yes, but if a client books a 2 hour date and the provider stays the full 2 hours, how would this piece alone mean the provider deserves a.... bad review? "I booked 2 hours and she only stayed 2 hours and 10 minutes....." Eh?

KCQuestor · 07-10-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PleasantSurprise

Flexibility yes, but if a client books a 2 hour date and the provider stays the full 2 hours, how would this piece alone mean the provider deserves a.... bad review? "I booked 2 hours and she only stayed 2 hours and 10 minutes....." Eh?

I don't understand what you are asking. What I meant about a bad review was a guy posting something like:

"After a nice, casual two hour date, I asked to use the shower to clean up before getting dressed. We were chatting and everything was nice, until I was putting on my shoes. She mentioned that it was 15 minutes past the end of our session, and that I owed her an extra $100."

or

"Forty-five minutes into our session her phone rang. It was her driver asking if she was ready yet. She told him she would be down in 15 minutes, then turned back to me and said that we needed to finish soon."

I ate at a restaurant earlier this year that had a fixed price menu of $185 per person. There were upcharges for extra things (adding lobster meat to the soup was an extra $15) but it was clear and upfront and presented matter-of-factly. The food was good, but not THAT good. What made the price worth it (for some people) was the service. The meal was never rushed. Each course (there were 9) came out exactly when everyone at the table was done with their previous course. The waiters were there the instant you needed them, and nowhere to be seen when you didn't. We felt like we were never in a rush that we could have stayed as long as we liked. But the entire meal was a perfectly timed event and we left, I'm sure, exactly when the restaurant needed us to.

In the same way, many guys who pay $400 per hour for a date are not doing so necessarily because the woman is prettier or the sex is better. They do so for the service. I'm not saying you have to stay past your allotted time, or that guys should expect more time than they paid for. I'm saying that, especially for multi-hour dates, you don't want guys thinking that they are being rushed.

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It doesn't seem fair for a client to request a 1.5 hour date then assume it is ok to stay 2 or more hours.

It isn't fair, but it is your responsibility to wrap the date up on time. And again, a lot of it depends on what he is doing in the "extra" 30 minutes. Is he trying to get in another pop? Is he asking to take a shower and taking his time getting dressed? Or is he sitting on your bed fully dressed trying to make small talk? All three things need to be handled differently.

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Originally Posted by PleasantSurprise

if one client generally stays the agreed upon time and the other would most likely stay 30+ minutes over..... then I would be more inclined to say yes to the one who respects a 1.5 hour date as 90 minutes.

If one client shows up on time and another is always late, you will prefer the former. If one is clean and one is smelly, you will prefer the former. If one is polite and one is rude, you will prefer the former. Lingering past the end of a session is just one reason that you may decline an appointment. If you can afford to turn down one client for another who is more appealing in some way, then definitely go for it.

KCQuestor · 07-10-2013, 04:20 PM

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A bad review has much greater impact for you, as well.

And what I meant by this was

1) A guy may take a chance on an inexpensive provider with bad reviews (hello, summerlovestoplay). "If the session sucks I'm only out $150." But for many guys, seeing a high-dollar girl for a multi-hour date is something they plan for and save for and look forward to. And if there is a bad review, that's a reason for a guy to reconsider. "What if I don't enjoy my time, and I'm out $600 bucks?"

2) A high-end provider probably has many fewer reviews, so each bad one is a much higher percentage of the total.

CaptainKaos · 07-10-2013, 06:13 PM

Pleasant, you can (and should) set your own rules. Curiosity is a good thing. And if you can find a way to gently let a horned up man feel like it was his choice to leave on time yet want to come back for more, you have found yourself in the right profession.

JRLawrence · 07-10-2013, 06:23 PM

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Do you think the client or provider should assume responsibility in watching the clock to keep from running over on time?

Example:

A client books a 60 minute appointment with a provider.

70 minutes pass and you, the client, haven't finished.

Then what should the provider do?

Make a comment? If so, what should she say?
Be quiet? As to not kill the mood.
Leave? Because the money you brought is all you have.

What would be your preference?

Well now;
I have seen it several ways.

I don't really watch the clock, but If I stay a lot longer than an hour; I think the lady deserves something extra for showing me such a fine evening.

I like to feel that the lady is also enjoying my company, and wants me to come back. This really is not just a business that you pay a worker by the hour; it is more than just that.

JR