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[Stuck in the mud]

Hobby, gays have had some legitimate beefs. Things are changing for the better, but it's understandable that they're upset about continued unfairness. For instance, they can't enjoy many of the tax benefits that married people do. Until only recently, they couldn't name each other as insurance beneficiaries.

Personally, I don't think the goverment should recognize anyone as being married... but two (or more) consenting adults should have a right to any kind of contract between them that they want. Marriage, to me, is a religious thing... not something that should be allowed or disallowed by the state.

Randy, you're correct... many religious leaders Would like to have the power wielded by the government. 500 years ago, government leaders aspired to have the power held by the church. In both cases, the power they argued about was power over you and me and every individual who ever had any interest in leading their own life.

I'll say it again, I'm more frightened of big brother... he seems to be winning right now.

[exoticdanceweardealer]

Was Chik-Fil-A ever that good to begin with? I mean, I have eaten there on numerous occasions and I personally thought even the waffle fries were a bit meh and they were really stingy with how many they would give you. The Chicken sandwiches aren't that good also, I didn't see a product there that was worth anything.

I hate that they were bigots but what really burns my buns is that they are probably the only business that a mall will not give a fine for not opening their doors on a Sunday. At least as I understand it, they typically fine anyone else who doesn't.

Anyway, people need to get over things that aren't pertaining directly to them, humanity is full of people who just can't resist sticking their nose up other peoples rectums. Not even for a good reason like just being a little kinky.

[Lust4xxxLife]

Originally Posted by Hobbyfun

Sir do you even know what this is about. Dan Cathy made a statement that he supports one man and one women only marriages and believes in what the bible says man shall not lay with another man and he contributes money to support that belief.

Now it is the same sex marriage people that JUMPED on this ban wagon and has there underwear in a bunch. In my opinion these people are the one's that blew this out of proportion and is keeping it alive. Everybody has a right to they opinion you do and I do, personal I DON'T believe in same sex marriage but others do just don't tell me I'm wrong for not believing in it.

Home depot has came out in support of same sex marriage but I did not and don't think anybody else protested and had a rally to boycott them for supporting it, that is there opinion.

It seems to me it is the gays that are pushing there beliefs down everybody's throat, and saying if you don't believe then your a hater that's BULLSHIT. If you believe in same sex marriage that's fine but if you don't then that should be fine also but in today's environment if you don't believe then your labeled a gay hater.

In my opinion if it don't hurt anybody else then do what you think is right just don't push your beliefs down my throat and don't get mad at who or what organization I donate my money to and I will give you the same courtesy this should apply to the whole USA.

The Gay community is not pushing its beliefs down anybody's throat, they're campaigning for EQUAL rights. I've not yet heard a position from the gay community suggesting that all marriages must be same-sex. It is the right wing religious community that is pushing its beliefs on the gay community (and everyone else, including THIS community).

I think Dan Cathy and his ilk should be able to believe in whatever they like, and I think they should feel free to express their discriminatory beliefs just as Dan Cathy has. That's what free speech is all about. The Mayors of Boston and Chicago should feel just as free to express their opinions, provided they don't confuse opinion with governance.

However, when it goes beyond beliefs and free speech, and turns into active effort to promote intolerance and to DEPRIVE another group with different RELIGIOUS beliefs of equal LEGAL rights, that crosses the line. That's why we're supposed to have separation of Church and State in this country.

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[Lust4xxxLife]

Saw this today... made me laugh...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

[pyramider]

The gay community does not want equal rights. It wants more rights.

[Hobbyfun]

You are SO right pyramider, but the gay community is not alone it seems there is a lot of groups wants special rights.

How is it in today's time's the minority wants and has more rights than the majority?

Example the pledge of allegiance at a ball game this has been going on for years and years, your in AMERICA if you don't want to say it then fine but some of us or still proud to be a AMERICAN and in this great county if you don't want to say it fine but please at least sit in your seat and STFU and let those of us that wants to say it or hear it have a moment of your silence.

[Duke of G]

Originally Posted by Hobbyfun

How is it in today's time's the minority wants and has more rights than the majority?

Example the pledge of allegiance at a ball game this has been going on for years and years, your in AMERICA if you don't want to say it then fine but some of us or still proud to be a AMERICAN and in this great county if you don't want to say it fine but please at least sit in your seat and STFU and let those of us that wants to say it or hear it have a moment of your silence.

What you mean like the white minority wanting more rights? Equality of rights is not the same as wanting special rights. Your implication is that being a minority means you get less rights. Is that what you mean?

And WTF does this have to do with the pledge of allegiance? You are all "Team 'Murica! Fuk YA!" about the pledge, but that has zero to do with the topic at hand. Other than maybe the allusion to "the gay community" being "un-American."

[slowmover]

Trust me, gays are not the biggest threat to our country. Remember it's still optional.

[Lust4xxxLife]

Originally Posted by pyramider

The gay community does not want equal rights. It wants more rights.

Bullshit. What rights does the gay community want that no one else has?

[Lust4xxxLife]

Originally Posted by Hobbyfun

You are SO right pyramider, but the gay community is not alone it seems there is a lot of groups wants special rights.

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If he is "SO right" then you won't have any problem telling us what 'special rights' the gay community wants. Right?

Please educate us all... c'mon, tell us what special rights the gay community wants.

[guest043013-2]

Hopefully this will work - see comments in Red.

Originally Posted by Stuck in the mud

Hobby, gays have had some legitimate beefs. Things are changing for the better, but it's understandable that they're upset about continued unfairness. For instance, they can't enjoy many of the tax benefits that married people do. Until only recently, they couldn't name each other as insurance beneficiaries. - I may be wrong, but unless you are married, you can name anyone you want as a beneficiary of a life insurance policy. If you are married, your spouse must sign a waiver in order for someone other than spouse to be the beneficiary. Since a gay person would either be married per the laws of a state that allows gay marriage, or would be single, shouldn't be a problem.

Personally, I don't think the goverment should recognize anyone as being married... but two (or more) consenting adults should have a right to any kind of contract between them that they want. Marriage, to me, is a religious thing... not something that should be allowed or disallowed by the state. - Consenting adults can contract. The big difference I see with this regard is that a gay couple in a state that does not allow gay marriage is going to have to go out and make an effort to sign a contract in order to put in place certain "rights" that married couples get simply by sake of being married.

Randy, you're correct... many religious leaders Would like to have the power wielded by the government. 500 years ago, government leaders aspired to have the power held by the church. In both cases, the power they argued about was power over you and me and every individual who ever had any interest in leading their own life.

I'll say it again, I'm more frightened of big brother... he seems to be winning right now.- 100% agree.

I made it a point to visit CFA on Wednesday and Friday of last week and make a purchase. (On Friday, they were actually out of some items I tried to purchase.) Did the same this week. It is not a matter of whether gay marriage is right or wrong. It is a matter whether anyone has a right to tell someone else what they are allowed to think and say.

CFA did NOT say we will discriminate. Did NOT say we will not hire gays.

What the mayors of those different cities said is that CFA, you do not have a freedom of speech and we will enforce your loss of that right by curtailing your ability to do business in our city.

Is this the 1920s? Is Prohibition coming back?

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by Lust4xxxLife

Bullshit. What rights does the gay community want that no one else has?

To have your SO on your insurance.

Hetero couples in a loving, non marriage situation cannot.

[Stuck in the mud]

As Tigercat points out (I believe correctly) you can name anyone as beneficiary of life insurance. I meant health insurance, but worded it incorrectly.
Pyramider, My health plan does allow coverage of hetero SO. Kinda funny, but a buddy of mine was mad when the policy was changed (only a couple of years ago) to allow coverage of gay partners. My buddy was upset that he couldn't cover his girlfriend. It was explained to him that he COULD cover his gf, but that doing so would give her claim to common law marriage. Well, he decided not to cover her, and quickly got over his anger.
Here's my point: I don't agree with some of the tactics used, but I can't think of anything they want that others don't already take for granted. Whatever your feelings on gays might be, do you really want guvmint deciding how we should live our lives?

Now, I don't agree with their attacks on the Boy Scouts, but that a whole 'nother thread!

[pyramider]

I forgot to mention the hetero partners' common law marriage addendum with the insurance.

[Lust4xxxLife]

Originally Posted by pyramider

To have your SO on your insurance.

Hetero couples in a loving, non marriage situation cannot.

Wrong, we heteros already enjoy these benefits. I am covered by my SO's (domestic partner) health insurance.

Do you have any other examples or is that the only reason why you believed that the Gay community is pushing for special/more than equal rights? Thinking differently now?

Look forward to the next example...

Cheers,

L4L