Hobbyist Reviews - Yay or Nay?

[rex4998]

I don't think so because if you could, every time I logged on my fucking inbox would be FULL of requests for me

[notdeadyet]

Originally Posted by SweetNoelle

I'm deadly curious about the BCD comments in my reviews, but unless the reviewer sends them to me via email or PM, I have to just be content to be curious. Same shoe, different foot. ;-)

As many others have pointed out, anyone here can be confident that ANY POST made ANYWHERE on this or any other board eventually will be read or communicated to person(s) who may, supposedly, not be entitled to read that post. Just as providers somehow get the lowdown on negative remarks made in "The Rest of the Story" or in the Men's Lounge, clients inevitably will get the lowdown on negative comments made in the Ladies' Section. My bet is that providers would become targets -- and maybe suffer business-wise -- if clients are reviewed, just as some hobbyists have become targets for a negative provider review.

[Shackleton]

Originally Posted by SweetNoelle

Shack,

Very good points, but if the comments were made in BCD, how would hobbyists even know if they were negative or positive? Hence, how would egos be hurt?

Perhaps one of your business competitors would tell him in an attempt to get his business. Or, if he knew there was a review, perhaps he would ask a provider friend to tell him what the review said. Or, maybe he would cut a deal with a provider to give her a good review or bump up a favorable review to tell him. Or, maybe he has access to a provider's board account or has a hobbyist friend who has access to a provider account. Think of all the ways that providers find out what is written about themselves and just reverse it.

Originally Posted by SweetNoelle

For privacy for the gentleman and to help against retaliation (which is a legitimate concern), only the first name of the hobbyist would be published (I cannot tell you how many Jims I've seen), nor would the entire phone number. Lots of people have my same last four digits.

I think you'd have to get a change in the forum rules to give out real world first names and partial phone numbers; but not a mod and you might want clarification before trying that here. I'm not sure how only giving out first name and last four digits would help prevent retaliation? If I saw a provider and she then posted a review of someone with the same first name as myself and the same last four digits of my phone number, I might suspect she was talking about me. And, to the extent that there is ambiguity as to who the review is about, doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose in the first place?

[Shackleton]

Originally Posted by travelling_man

I love analogies so let me try to put this in terms that might make it easier to understand from a guy's point of view. Consider the case of a chef that offers a service (food). Much like a provider offers a service. A restaurant reviewer comes in to critique the service and he will write a review. Would it be right of the chef to review the food critic? How would that work? The critic spilled crumbs on the floor? He didn't pick up the silverware in the right order? He skipped the salad? What right would the chef have to review the food critic? The chef isn't paying the food critic, is he?

The chef has just as much "right" as the food critic to write a review. There's no agreement not to write a review. There's no promise or representation that the chef won't right a review. There's no law against it. What's the moral basis for this supposed lack of right to write a review? I really don't get this claim that a provider doesn't have as much "right" to write a review as a hobbyists.

Now, as a practical matter, it doesn't happen. But, I suspect that is because the chef doesn't have any financial interest in writing a review. Just the opposite. And, the chef and everyone else doesn't much care what kind of diner the customer is, so no point in writing or reading such a review. That's where your analogy breaks down, because I can certainly understand a provider being much more interested in what a hobbyist is like than a chef being interested in what a diner is like.

Im not saying providers writing reviews is a good idea because of other reasons already mentioned in the thread. But, just saying that talking about it in terms of "right" and "wrong" doesn't make sense to me.

[spindrifter]

I object to this only due to privacy concerns. I have a rather unique real world name and would not want that to be posted anywhere private or public.

Other than that I have no problem with "reviews" of me from the provider point of view.

[Guest062512]

I think it's a good idea IN THE LADIES ONLY FORUM. However, I'm not really interested in how the other guys behave and how big their dicks are and how talented they are at DATY. (I like to fantasize that I'm the biggest and best.) I would very much like it if a lady I was seeing for the first time did her research (like I do mine) and knew what I like and was ready for me.

I think a public forum for client review is a just asking for trouble. "Old Joe's dick is so small I couldn't get it past my lips and he never really got all that hard. Plus he sweats like a horse - gross, but he writes a really nice review and tips well, so I invited him to come back any time and become a regular."

Uh... no. I paid for the pleasure. I didn't pay to perform or to be evaluated.

A friend and I did talk one day about a "best thing" thread on the board. What was the best thing someone in this hobby did for your this week (other than normal BCD activities)? No names (screen or real) of course. Something like, "Lady A knew it was my birthday so she had Dr. Pepper and Taquitos (my faves from my P411 profile) waiting for me and we just chatted for awhile (OTC) before starting the fun stuff." OR maybe,"Dude B brought chilled champagne for us, then kissed me on the hand when he came in the door, instead of grabbing my butt, like most guys. He left the donation (and a nice tip) in a scented thank you note. Can a provider have an ATF?" The person mentioned will recognize themselves in the post and get a nice smile, and everyone else will be encouraged to behave similarly nicely.

An ongoing thread that keeps getting bumped up when someone does or experiences something particularly nice. To cheer things up when there are 5 or 6 negative threads staring us all in the face.

But public "paying client reviews" - NOT INTERESTED.

[looiecypher]

this has been stated before.If the ladies started posting about us guys in open forums I guarantee business for the ladies would suffer.No guy wants to read that when he showed up the provider was disgusted because he was ugly,overweight had a unibrow ,etc, etc.
More and more guys would stop even seeing providers in fear they would be dissed by said ladies after "paying" them for their services.
There are some guys that may need reporting on,hence the reason you have the ladies forums.
The guys have the lounge but most of us know what is said in there really never stays in there.The ladies always seem to find out.Complete opposite about the ladies forum.I don't believe I have ever heard of anything that was posted there in public.
Let me ask you this question.Why is it so important to you to want to review the guys in a public forum? Is it your idea to embarass them in public? What would it accomplish?
I just see no reason for the guys to be reviewed in a public forum at all.

[Randall Creed]

I laugh [hard] every time this subject is brought up.

SweetNoelle, the answer...in a nutshell, is guys are SCARED SHITLESS of the next provider knowing how small their dicks were, how fat their gut is, how funky their breath/ass were, how hairy their backs were, among other things. They want to continue hiding behind their money and fragile egos. Look at how they're acting now! Oh, but they'll tell everyone who'll listen Bout how the provider's weight was way off, or how she upsells or whatever the case my be.

Go to a dictionary and look up PURE HYPOCRISY. A link to this thread just might be the definition.

I wouldn't care about being reviewed. If anything, if would make me get my act together in areas I may be lacking in.

[oldmarine]

I have no problem with it as long as my identity is protected. I try to be gentleman when I am with someone so I am not worried that I will be denied because of behavior issues. Now looks could be a different story, lol.

[Lust4xxxLife]

I have no issue with it. I love and respect women, I take good care of myself, and I choose the providers I meet with carefully. I don't see the downside. I'm not here to find a girlfriend or impress other guys so I really couldn't care if a provider commented on my looks or prowess - good or bad - in a particular session. As has been stated in other threads, if a provider reads reviews on me and doesn't think she'll click with me based on a review and then decides not to see me, that's a good thing. Far better than the experience of an awkward sub-optimal session.

In terms of public or private, I don't mind either way but I expect most would prefer that the reviews be private. I think that would help to keep the drama down. It's true that the providers already have a private area, but that's different than a review structure, just like the area that is private to the men is different than the review section.

P411 is a partial solution but not everyone is a member so it doesn't meet the need. Maybe secure reviews in P411 that only providers can see would be a better option? It would speed up the screening process and add value to the service. Hmmm... sounds like an opportunity for Gina. To all those who would say "but I'm the customer", let me suggest that you're the customer in the real-world too but that doesn't stop you from being assigned a credit score based on how you manage your consumer activity. Same concept. It helps service providers and retail businesses figure out who they don't want as a customer.

I suspect that the guys who act badly or show up stinky and unkempt to sessions won't like this idea much, because it will move them to the back of the line and/or limit their options. Oh well, they're masters of their own destiny.

That's just my $0.02 off the top of my head. Not passionate about it either way. Everybody has their own personal preference and I respect that.

[jfred]

Originally Posted by rex4998

..every time I logged on my fucking inbox would be FULL of requests for me

Originally Posted by spindrifter

..I have no problem with "reviews" of me...

Originally Posted by Rambro Creed

...PURE HYPOCRISY...I wouldn't care about being reviewed...

Originally Posted by oldmarine

I have no problem with it...

Originally Posted by Lust4xxxLife

...I don't see the downside...

Fellas (you studs!), the issue is not whether YOU would object to being reviewed, it's whether it would be a good, workable, helpful, functional addition to this board.

It would be a disaster.

[Int3rested]

I understand the question, but it would change the complexion of this site. Wish all your encounters to be rite.

[lionheart]

Originally Posted by looiecypher

Let me ask you this question.Why is it so important to you to want to review the guys in a public forum? Is it your idea to embarass them in public? What would it accomplish?

I repeat what looie said...any of you ladies and gents that are all gung-ho for a hobbiest review section have any comments on this?

Also, you folks are forgetting a few things---first, since the ladies may establish an enforceable no-review policy on the board then surely you all agree that this would also be an option for hobbiests if they were being reviewed right? Only fair right? Obviously 95% of the guys here would surely choose the no-review policy and it would defeat the whole purpose.

Personally, I really don't care about this from a standpoint of the actual review itself...I'm in my 30's, decent looking, in shape, respectful, etc...the problem is 1--all the drama it would create and 2--the security risks it would create.

Here is why. You girls have a LOT more info on us guys than we have on you! The girls know who we are in REAL LIFE and we have no clue who THEY are. Now if the providers want to start giving us all their personal information and level the playing field then maybe we can talk. Until then, the amount of information possessed is so LOP-SIDED its not even funny! This would only be an absolute disaster in so many ways.

[Saturn]

Sweet - you are treading on thin ice - Use p411 and just talk to his previous encounters. Many guys value descetion and if they know she takes notes - they are off the list to see.

[am-a-pleaser]

I think it should be done but very limited. Just enough so a new lady would have a resource to go to for hobbiests provider reference checks. Only viewable by the verified ladies. Saves the ladies having to check references. Maybe something like: hobbiest name: am-a-pleaser. would you see him again? hell yes! (or "no" for some of you guys) lmao

The initial contact buy the hobbiest could be through eccie's PM feature, so the new lady would know the person probably contacting them by other means, was also the one who PM'd her. If the lady was really interested, she could always contact the reference.

Just my .02