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Old 05-29-2012, 10:03 PM   #16
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The so called gaffe is a fake. The source is a political humor site, freewoodpost.com. They post phony stories, much like The Onion or The New York Times.



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Old 05-29-2012, 11:02 PM   #17
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Actually, here's Mr. Madison's words as to the purpose of the U.S. government:

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

This is nonsense. We can all make long lists. Mr Madison needed to employ an editor, I got bored after the first comma. The question is, what is on top of the list? CoG says liberty, I say security, I think in reality we are at the same place.

Everything else is secondary.
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:13 PM   #18
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This is nonsense. We can all make long lists. Mr Madison needed to employ an editor, I got bored after the first comma. The question is, what is on top of the list? CoG says liberty, I say security, I think in reality we are at the same place.

Everything else is secondary.
So you and COG agree. NICE........fuck you douchee.......
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:29 PM   #19
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No, we do not agree. Preservation of liberty is of paramount importance. We can't have liberty and the indefinite detention provisions of the NDAA. And that is just the start of a very long list of anti-liberty legislation that has been enacted in the name of "security." Another is the misnamed "Patriot" Act. CISPA, SOPA, and the list goes on.
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No, we do not agree. Preservation of liberty is of paramount importance. We can't have liberty and the indefinite detention provisions of the NDAA. And that is just the start of a very long list of anti-liberty legislation that has been enacted in the name of "security." Another is the misnamed "Patriot" Act. CISPA, SOPA, and the list goes on.
Hell I knew that....fuck you douchee....
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