provider etiquette

[pmdelites]

Originally Posted by actionjr69

new to ECCIE. I have contacted 4 providers off of here. All four have been rude. ... Looking for a KIND, not quite so schizo provider to get together with.

I have approached these women with kindness, honesty and respect, so I don't understand why they behave this way to new prospective clients.

All someone has to do is treat me right and I will be a regular customer.

any suggestions how to deal with cranky, paranoid providers?

well, without knowing how you communicated, what you communicated, and who you communicated with, -and- seeing an example of what you call "rude", we cant really comment on that.

but, as you wrote, be kind, honest, respectful, upbeat, etc in your communications. then expect the worst [rude, cranky, no reply] and hope for the best [delites w/ the woman]. and if you receive a rude reply or dont recent one, move on and dont overthink why [you could ask some guys in private for any experiences they've had w/ her]

w/out including any names or personal info, if you post an example of your initial communication, maybe we could offer suggestions.
and if you extract/summarize one of their "rude" posts, maybe we could comment on if we think it's "rude."

i suggest keeping a positive attitude about this sub-culture while remaining realistic about it.

best to you!

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here's an example of what i've used in the past.

xxx,

after reviewing the ads on <xxx>, your ad on <xxx> caught my eye as the most intriguing one. you are a very stunning, attractive and charming woman who seem to be a very intersting and fun-loving person. you also seem to be someone who is very passionate about her companionship.

<info on when i'd to set up an appt; and requesting general location of incall (to help decide if i want to travel there)>

for now, i've included below some of my info. please let me know if you require additional information for screening purposes.

thanks in advance and looking forward to talking and visiting w/ you.


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or you could write something specific based on reviews or her posts...

xxx,

there are not that many things that are more exciting and enjoyable than teasing, licking, kissing, and probing a woman's sweet spots while having the same done to me. the connection, the stimulation, the exhiliration is immense when both folks really know what they are doing. that's not to say that other activities aren't fun, like one-way action or missionary or doggie or any of the other ways that two people can connect thru erotic, sensual, and sexual contact. but 69 is way way up there.

so, let's talk about experiencing this enjoyable and pleasurable activity. i'd prefer if i could come see you, but if not, i'm sure we can work something out.

i'm <yourHobbyName>. young at heart. <vital stats>, <hair/eyes/distinguishing characteristic>, talented toungue, and talented other parts.

[Invisible1]

Ice cream, cake and a smile is served to polite P411 members!

[actionjr69]

Thanks for all of your advice. It's tough to figure things out sometimes. won't be a noob for long. again thx.

[Captain Caveman]

actionjr69,

I may be the dissenting opinion here but I say stick to your guns. If a lady that you correspond with is rude to now she is still going to be rude to you when you meet her in person. Who wants to hang out with a lady like that?

I started hobbying with a studio back in 2006 (SC). I only learned about Eccie by accident in 2009 when a provider at the studio asked for my Eccie handle. That was when I lurked and learned more about the hobby.

My advice would be to cultivate newbie friendly providers. Once you have established a relationship with those providers use them as references to expand your hobby experience. It might sound weird but I am the kind of guy who *doesn't* use P411. I have two well established providers that I use for a reference that I see on a semi regular basis (there is a third as well, but I have never asked for her permission to use her as a reference. Call me weird, but I think I should ask for their permission first).

I always strive to treat providers with professional courtesy with a modest amount of personable affection (for lack of a better term. Of all the providers I see I like to have a personal connection with them. For me it makes a better provider experience). There have been some providers that I have not personally connected with. In some instances it was a personality clash... in others the provider was rude and impersonal.

I have tried to see other providers as well. Like you, I received either a rude response or no response at all. That has occurred with some fairly well established providers on here. Instead of getting hung up on not seeing the famous Miss X (whoever Miss X may be) I simply moved on to the next provider. I have jumped through some screening hoops to meet some providers... it has truly been well worth it. I feel fortunate to have known them and enjoy their company and I hope they feel the same way about me.

[Guest071613-2]

Just post in the Requests and ISO's forum and you will get at least twenty friendly replies from very eager ladies

[pyramider]

If the newbie does not check out the SEARCH feature he would be better off downloading porn.

[Guest070313]

+1

Originally Posted by Captain Caveman

actionjr69,

I may be the dissenting opinion here but I say stick to your guns. If a lady that you correspond with is rude to now she is still going to be rude to you when you meet her in person. Who wants to hang out with a lady like that?

I started hobbying with a studio back in 2006 (SC). I only learned about Eccie by accident in 2009 when a provider at the studio asked for my Eccie handle. That was when I lurked and learned more about the hobby.

My advice would be to cultivate newbie friendly providers. Once you have established a relationship with those providers use them as references to expand your hobby experience. It might sound weird but I am the kind of guy who *doesn't* use P411. I have two well established providers that I use for a reference that I see on a semi regular basis (there is a third as well, but I have never asked for her permission to use her as a reference. Call me weird, but I think I should ask for their permission first).

I always strive to treat providers with professional courtesy with a modest amount of personable affection (for lack of a better term. Of all the providers I see I like to have a personal connection with them. For me it makes a better provider experience). There have been some providers that I have not personally connected with. In some instances it was a personality clash... in others the provider was rude and impersonal.

I have tried to see other providers as well. Like you, I received either a rude response or no response at all. That has occurred with some fairly well established providers on here. Instead of getting hung up on not seeing the famous Miss X (whoever Miss X may be) I simply moved on to the next provider. I have jumped through some screening hoops to meet some providers... it has truly been well worth it. I feel fortunate to have known them and enjoy their company and I hope they feel the same way about me.

[Prolongus]

Originally Posted by Dannie

Just post in the Requests and ISO's forum and you will get at least twenty friendly replies from very eager ladies

+1...That's the way to do it, action. Give it a shot if you haven't already.

[Bestman200600]

Rude, arrogant types will turn off a good provider. A top provider on this board isn't a backpage girl and don't treat her like one. Her rate is her rate, unless she tells your otherwise. The better they know you. the better your time will be.

[!!Sexy Erotic Morgan]

That seems to happen a lot. Even some of the girls I have worked with in the past and some that have been doing this for quie a while, don't seem to understand the importance of phone conversations.

Just keep trying until you find one you click with over the phone. Good phone call doesn't always mean good session, but it usually does.

[!!Sexy Erotic Morgan]

Oh yes and NEVER ask for a discount (at least don't ask me). If a girl is offering one, she will advertise it. There is nothing I hate more than when a client calls and asks if I will see him for half my advertised price.

[Blubba]

There seems to be a correlation between rudeness and desirability... The old, fat and ugly ones are very responsive and polite. The younger ones, not so much. I like them young and with perfect bodies. But so do a million other pervs out there, so its the same old supply and demand issue: They CAN afford to be rude. Now if you like old, fat and ugly there are plenty of those to go around!

[!!Sexy Erotic Morgan]

I disagree Blubba. Even the hot ones can not afford to be rude. I have noticed the correlation between bad phone manners and bad lifestyle, meaning living in hotels not having a car, not having anything. It is not that those rude bitches are doing so many calls they can afford to be rude to you, its just that they don't care about you or your money because they probably have something else on their mind like drugs or some loser's dick.

I say if a girl doesn't answer the pone with an upbeat and sexy hello, or if she acts like she doesn't want to talk to you, hang up on her and go to the next. Call me. I am always super sweet to talk to and young and pretty as well.

[Guest032613]

Originally Posted by EroticMorgan

I disagree Blubba. Even the hot ones can not afford to be rude. I have noticed the correlation between bad phone manners and bad lifestyle, meaning living in hotels not having a car, not having anything. It is not that those rude bitches are doing so many calls they can afford to be rude to you, its just that they don't care about you or your money because they probably have something else on their mind like drugs or some loser's dick.

I say if a girl doesn't answer the pone with an upbeat and sexy hello, or if she acts like she doesn't want to talk to you, hang up on her and go to the next. Call me. I am always super sweet to talk to and young and pretty as well.

So your saying that you talk to every guy that calls you and answer questions over the phone without doing any type of screening at all. Thats a good way to get your ass into trouble.

[Waldo P. Emerson-Jones]

Originally Posted by BigDawg75

So your saying that you talk to every guy that calls you and answer questions over the phone without doing any type of screening at all. Thats a good way to get your ass into trouble.

Not sure how you got that out of her post. Seems like you may want to read more carefully before your next attempt.