The definition of a REAL GFE

[jan-w]

To put it in simplest terms, to me GFE means DFK, DATY and BBBJ. The other stuff, I don't care about.

[bluesharp]

1) BBBJ
2) DATY
3) DFK
4) Conversation
5) An incall that's nicer than normal.

But it's not an automatic, we've got to do our part here. Maybe give a gift? Take a shave? Be clean and have a cheerful attitude?
I quess the most important thing is to be as sensitive to her needs as she's being to yours.

[Who's Your Daddy]

Originally Posted by bluesharp

1) BBBJ
2) DATY
3) DFK
4) Conversation
5) An incall that's nicer than normal.

.........all of the above and a large waffle fry from Chick Filet......extra ketchup

[guest031812]

I think GFE is more about the way you treat a client rather then exact services but this is an interesting thread!

[Jack$lit]

Originally Posted by Asian Angel

Omg, you ladies have me rolling!!! I think a girl qualifies as gfe just by doing a few of those... maybe not all of them but at least the most important...
Greet you with a smile, hug and kiss..
Offer you water.
Get to know you a little
Lfk, DFK and then the fun stuff BBBJ, MSOG and So on
No clock watching (within reason)
Cuddling and talking after... then a hug and kiss goodbye
Im my opinion thats what qualifies a gfe experience... all that other stuff is just extra goodies

Now we are getting somewhere and I think the theme of GFE is most of these items. There are a few ladies here that know this winning formula and I agree with Angel here. Native T - nice post and a good topic.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by rock1man1

....... Native T - nice post and a good topic.

Interesting seeing the ones unwilling to take him serious.

Even after he mentioned this was from a thread that a lot of guys contributed to.

[Whispers]

I've wrote several hundred reviews over the years.....

Agency girls, Indies and Strippers that played.....

The few women that I repeated more than 3 times and the even fewer that I referred to as an ATF had the following qualities from his list.....


She PMs/emails or texts me shortly before my time to tell me "I'm looking forward to seeing you. I'm ready and waiting!" nothing better than removing the anxiety I was feeling on the way to see her. now I don't have to worry if she will be there or be ready.
A warm embrace and kiss when I walk in. Can ANYONE not agree?
Soft chatting and inquiring about "me" and how I am. yup. I want it about me. I have plenty of women in my life that expect it to be about them
Doesn't talk about "her" past boyfriends or car troubles or other clients. A major buzzkill and one of the most common backchannel complains about ladies..
Doesn't check text messages. yup.
Turns cellphone to silent (and doesn’t check text msgs). yup.
She brings me water before I ask. Doesn't have to be water but she offers me a beverage suitable to the time of year.
She removes my clothes from me. Or initiates the activity during some LFK and hugging
She allows me to remove her clothes if I desire. yup. I hate it when a gal rushes to get naked on her own. to me that's a sign of let's get this over with.
She says, "lay down and relax." yup.
She pampers me. yup.
She massages me without asking. yup.
She allows DFK, and kisses back with enthusiasm. yup.
She initiates service and goes for it. yup.
She goes down on Mr. Johnson BB, with a smile on her face like "Oh boy I can't wait to taste him!" yup.
She cums when I DATY, maybe twice. yup. I know this is dependent n my performance which is dependent on her freshness...
She tells me to fuck her. yup.
She says "don't stop" yup. Like we EVER would!
She says "Yes, just like that" yup.
She 'gets me there', knowing it might take a little longer now that I'm older. yup.
She's patient. yup.
She enjoys me cumming anywhere I want and smiles. I'm not sure I agree here as I don't understand what he means.
She cleans me up. yup.
She's not in a hurry to get out of bed. yup.
She lays there next to me for awhile. yup.
If I'm up for round two, she's game. yup.
She takes me to the shower. yup.
She dries me off and gets me dressed. Well... waiting with a fresh towel is enough for me.
She says thanks and says she enjoyed it. yup. at least shows her appreciation...
Never asks for the money. She knows I will give her the fee. yup.
When she gets it, doesn't count it in front of me. yup.
As I'm leaving, I get a soft kiss on the lips, not just a weak 1 second hug. yup.
She PMs/emails or texts me the next day and says "I enjoyed our time together so much. Can't wait for you to have time for me again" yup. I love knowing I am being thought about after the fact. This is not perceived as fishing for another date when done right and any gal that sees me knows the acceptable ways to contact me.

Can we all agree that this is the definition of the top of the line GFE service?

Like a few have said... there are a variety of services that most expect to be a part of the package but I really believe this list provides a great idea of the attitude a true GFE has.... I know the ATFs I have had over the years did al of the above.

So why is he getting his balls busted?

[sixxbach]

Originally Posted by Whispers

I've wrote several hundred reviews over the years.....

Agency girls, Indies and Strippers that plaid.....

The few women that I repeated more than 3 times and the even fewerthat I referred to as an ATF had the following qualities from his list.....


She PMs/emails or texts me shortly before my time to tell me "I'm looking forward to seeing you. I'm ready and waiting!" nothing better than removing the anxiety I was feeling on the way to see her. now I don't have to worry if she will be there or be ready.
A warm embrace and kiss when I walk in. Can ANYONE not agree?
Soft chatting and inquiring about "me" and how I am. yup. I want it about me. I have plenty of women in my life that expect it to be about them
Doesn't talk about "her" past boyfriends or car troubles or other clients. A major buzzkill and one of the most common backchannel complains about ladies..
Doesn't check text messages. yup.
Turns cellphone to silent (and doesn’t check text msgs). yup.
She brings me water before I ask. Doesn't have to be water but she offers me a beverage suitable to the time of year.
She removes my clothes from me. Or initiates the activity during some LFK and hugging
She allows me to remove her clothes if I desire. yup. I hate it when a gal rushes to get naked on her own. to me that's a sign of let's get this over with.
She says, "lay down and relax." yup.
She pampers me. yup.
She massages me without asking. yup.
She allows DFK, and kisses back with enthusiasm. yup.
She initiates service and goes for it. yup.
She goes down on Mr. Johnson BB, with a smile on her face like "Oh boy I can't wait to taste him!" yup.
She cums when I DATY, maybe twice. yup. I know this is dependent n my performance which is dependent on her freshness...
She tells me to fuck her. yup.
She says "don't stop" yup. Like we EVER would!
She says "Yes, just like that" yup.
She 'gets me there', knowing it might take a little longer now that I'm older. yup.
She's patient. yup.
She enjoys me cumming anywhere I want and smiles. I'm not sure I agree here as I don't understand what he means.
She cleans me up. yup.
She's not in a hurry to get out of bed. yup.
She lays there next to me for awhile. yup.
If I'm up for round two, she's game. yup.
She takes me to the shower. yup.
She dries me off and gets me dressed. Well... waiting with a fresh towel is enough for me.
She says thanks and says she enjoyed it. yup. at least shows her appreciation...
Never asks for the money. She knows I will give her the fee. yup.
When she gets it, doesn't count it in front of me. yup.
As I'm leaving, I get a soft kiss on the lips, not just a weak 1 second hug. yup.
She PMs/emails or texts me the next day and says "I enjoyed our time together so much. Can't wait for you to have time for me again" yup. I love knowing I am being thought about after the fact. This is not perceived as fishing for another date when done right and any gal that sees me knows the acceptable ways to contact me.

Can we all agree that this is the definition of the top of the line GFE service?

Like a few have said... there are a variety of services that most expect to be a part of the package but I really believe this list provides a great idea of the attitude a true GFE has.... I know the ATFs I have had over the years did al of the above.

So why is he getting his balls busted?

sixx

[Jack$lit]

So why is he getting his balls busted?

Not sure, I think Asian Angel gets it and just made my list. There are many others here also who do know and practice this gfe formula. I agree the chemistry does need to be there for an ultimate experience. Some of the new girls could learn a few from the list. I recently seen a new gfe provider who jumped up and slip on her panties before I caught my breathe, so if they learn a few things and make their gfe experience a little better for the next joe, then thanks Native T.

[davidsmith0123]

Well, here I find myself agreeing with Whispers. I thought the original list was well thought out, and while one could quibble with one or more lines as tastes will differ, the content taken as a whole seems reasonable. In fact, I thought I was reading from the playbook of several special women I have seen. If a provider does not want to provide such services, fine, her choice, but why disparage, even implicitly, both those who choose to provide this service and those who seek it?

[Tatonka]

Here is my take on this list on Top of the line GFE service

A GFE:
I think the very first step in great GFE service begins with good TCB. Responding to inquires, emails, pm's, calls in a timely manner and cooperation in schedueling gets things off to a good start.

The next step is be clean/freshly showered before the hobbiest gets there. I have seen some providers who advertised as GFE who obvilously had not showered recently. It is a huge buzzkill to go down on a provider and find that she is not fresh or when she gets in doggy position and you see that she has dirty feet (both these things have happened to me, it was not fun).
Also it doesn't hurt to dress up a bit, some providers open the door and look like they just got back from Walmart. Lingerie is a good idea, it shows some effort and its sexy.

She PMs/emails or texts me shortly before my time to tell me "I'm looking forward to seeing you. I'm ready and waiting!"
A warm embrace and kiss when I walk in. Confirming an appointment is a good idea. Helps aleviate the worries about getting NCNS'd which is a drag for a hobbiest or a provider.
Soft chatting and inquiring about "me" and how I am. Agreed, I want/expect to be the focus of the providers attention.
Doesn't talk about "her" past boyfriends or car troubles or other clients. Agreed, I don't want to hear complaints/bitching/whining about that shit. This is my time, I am paying for it.
Doesn't check text messages.
Turns cellphone to silent (and doesn’t check text msgs).
I agree on these 2 points 100%. I do not want to see or hear your phone during our time together. I think it is rude if a provider starts checking/sending text messages while OTC. I also don't like when she doesn't set the phone to silent and you have to hear it blowing up every 5 minutes with calls from friends or other hobbiests.
She brings me water before I ask. Or at least offer it.
She removes my clothes from me. Or help with it once things start progressing.
She allows me to remove her clothes if I desire. Agreed. Hobbying/seeing a provider is a gift that I give to myself and I like to unwrap my gift before I play with it. Alot of providers underestimat the appeal of this.
She says, "lay down and relax." Or something like that.
She pampers me. Agreed, or at least focus on me.
She massages me without asking. Personaly I am not really there for a massage but offering one is nice.
She allows DFK, and kisses back with enthusiasm. Agreed
She initiates service and goes for it. Agreed
She goes down on Mr. Johnson BB, with a smile on her face like "Oh boy I can't wait to taste him!" Agreed, enthusiasm goes along way.
She cums when I DATY, maybe twice. DATY should be on the menu but the cumming depends on the hobbiest oral skill. Ladies don't be shy about giving a suggestion or 2.
She tells me to fuck her.
She says "don't stop"
She says "Yes, just like that"
Agreed on the 3 points above, some sexy talk is good
She 'gets me there', knowing it might take a little longer now that I'm older. Agreed.
She's patient. Agreed.
She enjoys me cumming anywhere I want and smiles. I think that he is refering to having options like CIM, COT, COB, pearl necklace, facials being available. I am guessing here but its good to have options.
She cleans me up. Or at least offers to.
She's not in a hurry to get out of bed. Agreed
Something else I will throw in here is don't be in a hurry to get dressed. I enjoy seeing a woman's body as well as touching it. Actually I prefer she remain undressed until I leave. I really like a naked woman and I don't think that I am the only one.
She lays there next to me for awhile. Agreed
If I'm up for round two, she's game. Agreed, MSOG should always be available with a GFE provider if time provides.
She takes me to the shower. Should at least offer the use of the shower and offer to join you.
She dries me off and gets me dressed. Have clean towels available and I can dry myself, offering to dry my back would be nice. I am a big boy I can dress myself.
She says thanks and says she enjoyed it. Agreed
Never asks for the money. She knows I will give her the fee. When she gets it, doesn't count it in front of me. I pretty much always pay at the beginning, if you have to count it please do not do so in front of me.
As I'm leaving, I get a soft kiss on the lips, not just a weak 1 second hug. Agreed, 1 last good kiss before I go.
She PMs/emails or texts me the next day and says "I enjoyed our time together so much. Can't wait for you to have time for me again" That would be a nice touch, I would prefer a pm or an email more then a text.

Can we all agree that this is the definition of the top of the line GFE service?

In conclusion great GFE service is more then just a list of services, but I think that the following are necessary for it to be considered GFE:
LFK, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, CFS, MSOG
Also what is needed is passion or at least the illusion of passion and enthusiasum. Some music, mood lighting and attention to what the hobbiest wants/likes helps to.

[GneissGuy]

Originally Posted by jan-w

To put it in simplest terms, to me GFE means DFK, DATY and BBBJ. The other stuff, I don't care about.

And, of course, CFS.

If the lady advertises "GFE," she's promising kissing, BBBJ, and CFS at an absolute minimum. Anything less is outright false advertising.

If she doesn't want to offer one or more of these, fine, but don't call it GFE. You wouldn't advertise a "cheeseburger", and then say "a bun costs extra."

I would also throw in girlfriend attitude. She doesn't need to act like I'm a great stud or her best buddy, but if I'm getting the emotional interaction of the "you want fries with that" guy at the local fast food joint, it's not REALLY GFE. After all, it does say "girlfriend" in the name.

[Rand Al'Thor]

Some people intrinsically understand (customer) service.

Some people learn it.

Others find it a concept that they cannot swallow (hah!), they think they intrinsically know, but when given feedback, will vehemently deny facts and defend their brand of customer service as "right". This has been seen in corporations as well as small business. Those that don't learn generally go out of business.

Some of the things listed are GFE, some are good attitude, some are just good customer service. While all great things, it's a bit ambitious if the effort is to codify GFE into a standard that will travel.

[redrocker522]

I don't generally read these forum threads because some of the attitude toward the hard working ladies are a tad rude and it bothers me.

The experience I expect is to simply to be desired and for the lady I am with to be in to what we are doing, in fact, if they are not into it or me, my plumbing just doesn't work. Now, so that I am not disappointed, I don't go by the tag lines on the showcases. I spend weeks sometimes reading and re-reading reviews to make sure my experience is going to be what I am expecting.

my point, you want to ensure a more gfe experience, do your homework, i've yet to be disappointed but I am also not looking to run up the score board, i am more quality over quantity and I generally won't consider any provider under 30 (upper twenties tops), lots of potential drama in those reviews for providers who are barely legal and in their early 20s.

that's just me, though. to each his own, but I genuinely appreciate the companion level of service that a lot of these ladies provide, it's got to be difficult to always be judged by every little action.

my 2cents which is usually worth much less than 2 cents.

[NativeTx78]

Originally Posted by Rand Al'Thor

Some people intrinsically understand (customer) service.

Some people learn it.

Others find it a concept that they cannot swallow (hah!), they think they intrinsically know, but when given feedback, will vehemently deny facts and defend their brand of customer service as "right". This has been seen in corporations as well as small business. Those that don't learn generally go out of business.

Some of the things listed are GFE, some are good attitude, some are just good customer service. While all great things, it's a bit ambitious if the effort is to codify GFE into a standard that will travel.

+1

You have captured EXACTLY the issue. Those who understand customer service have the highest customer loyalty, repeat customers, and can command a reasonable but good price on their products or services. This is true no matter what the business.

Very well said.