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Guest110923 · 11-13-2011, 09:14 AM

One of those reviews is for Raina.. where is she at anyway Im sure she could jump in an shed some light on the situation...
PAGING RAINA PAGING RAINA LOL

Guest110923 · 11-13-2011, 09:18 AM

And its not really uncommon for someone to not have any references and then go on a "shopping spree" and come up with 5 references... Thats happened to me before a gentlemen contacted me several times but never had any references then he went on a trip out of town for a few weeks and popped of with 5 verifiable references so then I saw him and everything was great! So its not like its so far out of reach it couldnt possibly be true...

Guest121212 · 11-13-2011, 09:39 AM

I was contacted by this same gentleman, with his initial contact coming much more recently than that detailed by Ms Elena. Apparently, Elena and this gentleman have been communicating for quite some time. My first contact from the potential client was on the 31st of October 2011, my last contact with the client was on the 2nd of November - now a very short 11 days ago as of the time of this writing - when I emailed him back for the final time, politely declining his appointment request (or any subsequent request) with me. I was not at all aware (at the time he contacted me) that he had contacted any other ladies in Omaha (or Escorts like myself, whom visit the wonderful gentlemen of Omaha from time to time) - in fact, I was told exactly the opposite. When the client made his initial contact, he offered me a list (a long "laundry" list actually, almost seemingly "stacked" - that is the term a lady in this business would use in regard to his initial email) of "providers" he had seen in the past, and for clarification, he did so in his first communication, offering them without their being asked for . . . None of the references had dates of visit associated with them or even phone numbers, they were all email only - and none were local to Omaha, even though he stated he had been in and would be in the area for some time. Upon investigation of the client's list of names offered as references, I found one that disappeared from the endeavor in July 2009 (literally, there is no trace of her following that summer) and as for the others, I could either find no trace of them online or I was not satisfied (myself, personally) with the veracity of their even being legitimate providers. To me, things seemed very contrived - IMHO. Over a series of communications, the gentleman offered me information which contradicted himself (a small thing, nothing big at all - but enough to be a "flag" to any careful professional), and, as I said, he offered NO local references although he claimed a long local history. So, all things considered, upon reflection, I politely thanked him for the compliment of wanting to see me professionally and declined the opportunity . . . to me, it was / is no big deal, there are a lot of fish in the sea for him to choose from and I do tend to err on the side of caution from time to time, as is even stated on my Website - I learned long ago that not all money is good money . . . Frankly, we all do (individually, as working ladies) what we must do to keep ourselves safe in this endeavor and we all have our own level of comfort (a standard) that must be met prior to entertaining a new client. In this case, he didn't meet mine. I've never judged anyone for having a higher or lesser standard than myself as I would not want to be judged in return - but I have called out unsafe screening practices of others in the past in the hope that they may listen and find a way to avoid being the "low hanging fruit" for LE or WORSE - and believe me, it is the "WORSE" that is the much bigger issue than LE . . . I offer this post only to give credence to the point Elena makes in that she states the gentleman offered no local references . . . I had the same experience, and also, I would offer that if the client were at all savvy to this endeavor, he would have to know that offering me Raina (whom he says he visited in August, long before his contacting me) or any of the other local ladies he visited in or pre-October 2011, would have obviously been advantageous to his chances of successfully setting an appointment with me, however, he declined such, even when asked specifically if any did exist (especially, in light of the fact that the majority of the references he did offer were from ladies that no longer appear to be active in the business or have no record at all - at least in my cursory research). Admittedly, after the first glaring inconsistency found in his references, I really didn't care to spend the time looking at his claims in depth . . . I am fortunate to stay busy with regular, returning clients in Omaha and I don't have time for games (which, also admittedly, may have not been what was happening, there are a thousand different scenarios - but they don't really matter to me, I had moved on after I was given bogus information . . .).

Look, I see gentlemen from across the country (and from many other countries as well) and it makes NO difference to me where a client's references are from . . . in fact, I am able (as gentlemen here in Omaha can attest) to see gentlemen re-entering the "hobby" who may have references years old and even successfully screen those gentlemen that are desiring a first time experience. As I have said, plainly in the aforementioned, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I did not have a feeling the client was being above board with me, and when I asked specifically if he had seen any local ladies prior to contacting me, and when his reply is "no", well, I obviously "read" the client correctly. THAT is the ONLY reason I mention the issue of local references. I appreciate honesty in the endeavor and I have little tolerance for subterfuge of any kind, especially as a working professional that needs to trust being behind closed doors with someone . . . FOR ME PERSONALLY, things in this particular instance didn't add up. And, now that the client has offered reviews of local ladies (of which I don't question the truthfulness of, it is COMPLETELY immaterial to me at this juncture) after being asked specifically by me if he had such and my being told in his reply there were none, well, for me PERSONALLY, I absolutely feel I made the right decision to decline to see him under the circumstances I was presented with . . .

I would strongly encourage anyone reading this posting to realize this is simply a report of my own experience with the client, other ladies may have a completely different experience . . . the client may have been more forthcoming with other ladies than with myself for some reason, I don't know - nor do I care . . . And, again, as I mentioned, I offer this post only to validate the inconsistencies with the client (both then, and now, as revealed through his recent publication of these reviews). If any verified provider or Agency would like to examine my correspondence with the gentleman, including the email headers and time stamps, if they question the honesty of my own statements here, they may contact me privately at jackie@jackiedevlin.com, after which I will make the entire communication chain between the client and myself available for examination and they may further understand why things now seem to me personally to be even more disconcerting than they were before. My reputation here on ECCIE and as a working professional is untarnished, I am well respected, and I do not lie. This client did though - he either lied to me in his statement that he had no recent experiences with any local ladies, or he is fabricating six rapid fire reviews.

Kisses all, be safe!

- Jackie

Alexis_Summers · 11-13-2011, 09:48 AM

He didn't have local references because he doesn't live there! He is there on business.. why does it matter where his references are from?
This is getting a tad ridiculous lol

TrulyAngelsEscorts · 11-13-2011, 09:49 AM

Hello,
This is Shelley, the owner of Truly Angels Escorts. We travel to Omaha once or twice per month. This particular client in question has seen an Angel. He was very nice, safe and fun.

Anyone who has dealt with me, knows that I also, am very safe when it comes to checking references. He provided me with 2 very reputable escort references, both have websites, and many reviews on thereviewboard.net and TER.

In defense of Ms. Elena, whom I respect very much, it was difficult getting his references out of him. (Multiple Emails)

MsElena · 11-13-2011, 11:31 AM

All my responses are in red.

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Originally Posted by lookin4fun0

Lol, Calm down Elena. I didn't say he is "golden" because his review matched mine, obviously you'd still need to verify him for yourself. But why all the drama? Step back and look at how condescending your messages are. It just sounds like your trying to start/pick a fight for no reason. If you think this guy is a legitmate threat, go post it on the alerts page.

Elena, in all honesty, im a lover not a fighter, so im going to drop it. Sounds like you could use some stress relieving sometime soon =)

Honestly, I'm not trying to pick a fight nor start one. If I was condescending, that wasn't my intention at all. Do I need stress relief? Of course I do, I've had a very trying last 45 days, but it can only get better.

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Originally Posted by Alexis_Summers

For your information, this "little girl" didn't use his references for screening. I used other resources thanks for tryin though. As for the dude at the meet and greet he never told me he didnt see you BCD. I didnt find out he didn't until you told me so. if I'm contacting you and asking you for a reference don't you think MAYBE I have a reason to be contacting you? I don't email random people for references. I'm not fucking stupid.
MsElena someone's gotta tell you this so i figured ill do it, you have your head held way to high, you think you're so much better than everyone else & frankly its quiet unattractive.

Im done I will no longer be contacting you for any references nor advice.

Alexis, I honestly hold no ill will towards you. If I did, I wouldn't have tried to help you in the past nor would I have sent you a PM last night with some info you were seeking out.

You called out my way of screening, made it sound like I didn't know what I was doing. Contrary to what you may think, I do know what I'm doing. I put most of the blame on the guy who contacted you and used me as a reference when he shouldn't have used me at all.

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Originally Posted by jjchmiel78

AMEN lookin4fun and Alexis! Your original post MsElena I came to the same conclusion seeing 6 reviews all at once with no backstory required. I then see Alexis sticking up for the client, something as a newb I would appreciate. You have been nice to my comments in other posts, you are obviously a good host with so many positive reviews, but this judgmental side does not make me think I would have fun with you. As with every aspect in my life I was and still shy entering this hobby. I have seen two hosts that were fun but did not leave me with the urge to partake in this hobby more often. I know I do not have the references to see all the hosts that interest me, so seeing hosts stick up for clients that have bad things said about them encourages me. To be clear I have not seen Alexis either so at the end of the day I do not know more about either of you.

I responded to you in a PM.

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Originally Posted by mutualpleasur2

I don't get what the problem is here.

The guy didn't have references that panned out at all. That's bogus.

After being asked about any other possible references he said he had none. Now he post reviews that go back to August. So which one is it? That's bogus.

Is there any dude on here who wasn't questioning the sudden appearance of 6 reviews, especially with no backstory or explanation of why the floodgates were open now?

I certainly did.

You get it MP.

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Originally Posted by 12blue4u

Maybe his wife was watching the computer? Maybe he did not feel like writing until now.
Maybe he was hospitalized. I am not going one way or another but without facts all of us are just making judgments and assumptions with no real knowledge base. I got blasted early on for some kind of errors here because I did a couple of guffaws.
Maybe we should have a hobby questionnaire and we could all fill it out for the providers, but I guarantee that there would be disagreements on that.
Its just differences of opinions and interpretations from what it seems to me.

I hardly think any of those situations could be true. I'll go into more detail at the end of this post. Humor me please.

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Originally Posted by Kay2Day

And its not really uncommon for someone to not have any references and then go on a "shopping spree" and come up with 5 references... Thats happened to me before a gentlemen contacted me several times but never had any references then he went on a trip out of town for a few weeks and popped of with 5 verifiable references so then I saw him and everything was great! So its not like its so far out of reach it couldnt possibly be true...

Its not that he didn't have references, the ones he gave weren't real. I have also talked to newbies and then a few weeks later, the newbie has 3 references that were reliable.

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Originally Posted by Alexis_Summers

He didn't have local references because he doesn't live there! He is there on business.. why does it matter where his references are from?
This is getting a tad ridiculous lol

Its got nothing to do with his references being local or not. Both Jackie and myself have stated that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrulyAngelsEscorts

Hello,
This is Shelley, the owner of Truly Angels Escorts. We travel to Omaha once or twice per month. This particular client in question has seen an Angel. He was very nice, safe and fun.

Anyone who has dealt with me, knows that I also, am very safe when it comes to checking references. He provided me with 2 very reputable escort references, both have websites, and many reviews on thereviewboard.net and TER.

In defense of Ms. Elena, whom I respect very much, it was difficult getting his references out of him. (Multiple Emails)

Thank you Shelley, you're a doll and I respect you, Couture and the agency. But, you already knew that.

Look everyone, I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong about the guy. If I am wrong about this, hell, I will even offer him half off of a session.

Something is not right here and everyone seems to keep missing the point.

Its not whether his references were local or not. I've screened gents from all over the US who had references as far away as Alaska. If the references are legit, I have no problem getting the gent screened.

1. This guy has been contacting me since June 2011 via phone, email and text.
2. He gave me a shopping list of names only for references the first time.
3. I had to email him back and ask him for more info, when...where...who...contact info for his references.
4. He provided email addresses only and they never checked out nor did anyone contact me back.
5. He provided phone numbers after I had asked for the 4th time and the numbers didn't check out. No one answered, no outgoing messages, no return calls, nothing. I tried researching the numbers through 3 different intell sites, nothing.
6. I asked him as recent as Nov. 2nd if he had seen any ladies in Omaha while he's been visiting/working here...his answer was and has been no.
I even asked him to verify him through his employment, he said no. No biggie, not everyone wants to do that.

Nothing......nothing has checked out about this and its not just me, its Jackie and another lady who isn't on the board.

Why wouldn't he use Raina or Alexis or any other of the ladies he had seen as a reference with myself or Jackie? Doesn't that strike you odd?
There's a reason for his behavior, I just don't know what it is. This is part of the point I keep making.

You may think what you wish of me, but I'm a safety kinda gal and I would never put anyone in jeopardy nor would I want anyone to put me in jeopardy. I posted this because it doesn't add up and its anyone's right to question what's posted on this board.

lookin4fun0 · 11-13-2011, 03:19 PM

Does anyone have the cliff notes for Jackies response?

=)

No worries MsElena. Its very easy for words to get taken out of the context which was implied.

Guest090116-1 · 11-13-2011, 04:24 PM

Cliff Notes version:

The guy is full of shit and apparently plays games. What he does and what he says have no bearing on each other.

You're welcome.

None of this will be on a test.

lol

farmstud60 · 11-13-2011, 07:41 PM

MP, I think you nailed the Cliff Notes version. LOL

I saw all those reviews, and thought it seemed a little fishy myself. I sure wouldn't base a decision to see or not see a lady based on his reviews. Plus, when he says he made one miss her lunch, seems just a tad bit disrespectful IMO.