P411 vs Eccie

[Stealthguy]

General census here seems to be P411 = professional, ECCIE=social and I must agree with most of the opinions expressed here.

P411 screening process for membership (at least for us customers) is VERY thorough investigation process. Made me VERY nervous as a very private person working for a respected private company. Upside is that providers listed here responding to my private messages, text or phone calls, seem to treat a verified P411 ID as good as 2-3 references they have to search through. Occasionally, LE gets a customer's ID and password but the word spreads fast through the P411 management and providers. My experiences to date lead me to belive the management and all website contacts are paid employees, with the intellegence, and desire to provide their customers (vendors and customers alike) with the best information possible, both informatinal and technical. Technical case-in-point: they once changed the display for information on customers' "favorits" list that lead me to a dead-end when I clicked on the "next" (segment) of my favorites. An email to their help desk had it cleared up in 48 hours with an email from the owner, thanking me for bringing the technical error to their attention and extending my membership for another 6 months. If you're a traveling hobbiest that wants an OK on quick notice at the town you will be in tomorrow or the next day on short notice, membership here is your best bet. It's "down to business" with the best verified info that can be provided from and to vendors and clients alike. Of all of the "Providers" I know that are on P411 and/or ECCIE, all unanimously agreed that they feel very safe with info provided to them by P411.

ECCIE is more social - it's espically fun (for everyone?) to review the various "blogs" like this but they sometimes go awry. Ergo all of the monitors for all of the threads. Lots of customers and vendors vent their emotions abut other members here. Many times, you have to "look quick" before one of them sends a PM to their favorite "montior" to delete or move entries that disturb them. Vendors can make good screening decisions by checking customer's (requestor's) postings, reviews, etc. but I haven't found that there is any consistent management reviews by any "employed" ECCIE personnel. (All observations lead me to belive most "monitors" are volunteers that enjoy spending lots of time here, "monitoring" stuff. I suspect they get a break on their membership fees as compensation for their monitoring activities. Just my suppositions, no offence meant to the management, employees or vounteers on this site.) My opinion here? Have fun with what you read but if you find anything suspect, search for corroborative information if you are not sure.

In summary: The best of both worlds for, vendors and customers alike, is best enjoyed by all with membership in both, frequent "check-ins" and participation as best fits your situation and life style.

How's that for a good, non-comittial opinion????

[daaaaaman]

too me both are worth it. why not have the best of both worlds. If you have a membership to p411 and eccie you dont need anything else.

Both sites are ran very professionally with a lot of integrity and that is what makes them work.

I would recommend getting both, it is worth it.

[chi-xi-sigma]

Originally Posted by daaaaaman

too me both are worth it. why not have the best of both worlds. If you have a membership to p411 and eccie you dont need anything else.

Both sites are ran very professionally with a lot of integrity and that is what makes them work.

I would recommend getting both, it is worth it.

I totally agree. The only thing I can add is that spending some time setting up your P411 profile can be very helpful. A carefully worded Bio can make the difference in whether a lady sees you or not. In my case, there have been a hand full of these situations over the years. Admittedly, these were unusual situations back when pickin's weren't quite so easy, but still.... At the very least, the lady will feel more comfortable meeting you.

You can have a Profile here on ECCIE, but on P411 only the ladies that you want can see your profile. You can even block individual ladies from seeing it.

Another neat feature of P411 that I like is "Provider View". It lets you see what a provider sees when she accesses your information. There are also all kinds of tracking info. You can see all of the requests (to whom, with dates and type of request) you have sent over the years. Also tracking on all of the ladies who have seen your profile.

I only use P411 to set up appointments. I know, less than half of the ladies actually read my profile (yes, you can tell). Most just see that I have XX number of Okays, and I'm good to go. It does seem that I have a better time with the ladies that read my Profile. For instance; I saw a lady yesterday. I checked out her web site and paid special attention to her blog. I gained some useful insight into what she is like (and what she likes). She read my P411 Profile and knew going in that we would get along great (her words). Well, it was an amazing time, totally perfect. It just doesn't get any better.

No, Gina doesn't pay me commission.

[kenpachi]

P411 is a waste of time and money

[Wheretonow]

Originally Posted by kenpachi

P411 is a waste of time and money

It would be enlightening to know why you think that, because many people don't share your view.

[Prolongus]

Originally Posted by kenpachi

P411 is a waste of time and money

Because of P411, some of the best Providers I've seen would NOT have seen me had I not had a membership there. Love the site.

[guest032413]

Originally Posted by TheBizz

I prefer it over straight references, who have a tendency to pass on that when I ask for MSOG, I have the uncanny ability to come every 90 seconds with a 30 second recharge, and throw a temper tantrum if I don't get my 15 nuts.

Really? 15? Really?
That would be a first for me to see...never seen a man capable of 3 rearely

[guest032413]

So I have a question?
Since eccie has reviews most ads are overlooked...
P411 only ads would it be worth my effort to regularly post an ad on p411?

[Sugardaddy]

Originally Posted by Kandy Kelly

Really? 15? Really?
That would be a first for me to see...never seen a man capable of 3 rearely

Of course not, you haven't met me yet.

[Prolongus]

Originally Posted by Kandy Kelly

So I have a question?
Since eccie has reviews most ads are overlooked...
P411 only ads would it be worth my effort to regularly post an ad on p411?

Kandy, HD has this incredible ability to "recharge" because he is a Harley Biker Man, just like me. He has a "Stage 3" engine...great for the Hobby. (I'm still working on Stage 2).

[Guest020720]

P411 also has a newer feature of "verified photos"...they ask you to send in a snap of you that is clear and has our ID & date on it - and they compare it to pictures on your P411. You get a little icon of "verified photos" if you pass the match up.

I love P411 because of the less than five minute screening - as well as the guys who take a short time to complete even a favorite quote if they want - in the bio section.

It helps break the ice on a first meeting...it helps me understand when they mark what things are important to them (greek, daty, french kissing, BBBBj etc) and how important each thing is to a session and more of what they expect in a first meeting. The ones with the bio are always the most helpful and I feel stupid if I've forgotten to recheck the profile right before an appointment.
I don't want the client to think I ignored that section - especially since he(or she) took the time to complete it.

[Guest021812-3]

Originally Posted by hd

yea..................right

Originally Posted by Kandy Kelly

Really? 15? Really?
That would be a first for me to see...never seen a man capable of 3 rearely

Ok, you two need to adjust your sarcasm filters on your eccie control panel.

For instance, if I claimed a 9 inch dick, call me out for being full of shit and a braggart. If I claim a 19 inch dick, i assure you I'm not thinking I can sneak that past anybody.

[hd]

We're just just having fun at your expense Bizz, lighten up and have a laugh, I do, everytime I look in the mirror.

[Guest021812-3]

Originally Posted by hd

We're just just having fun at your expense Bizz, lighten up and have a laugh, I do, everytime I look in the mirror.

Oh, believe me, I'm pretty light, especially in my underpants. I just typed that last post to see how it felt to say "9 inches"

[hd]

I had to read it twice to feel the 9"