farmers losing markets

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

First, understand the data, scope and the time horizon. Second, understand the number you're referencing includes culls and natural mortality. Third, review the following and let's get into it

https://downloads.usda.library.corne...1/ckeg0225.pdf

Maggies have a problem with established protocols that are proven to work.

But hey! Maybe they can treat it like covid. Start the presses with those golden cards that his zillionaire buddies can sponsor immigrants to shove UV lights up chicken butts and bleach their feed.

Another win-win?

[farmstud60]

The thing is grain exports have been above normal for December and January and into February. They were pre buying ahead of tariffs.


China always stops buying U.S. Grains now and will buy South American crops off the combine as that is the cheapest time to buy them.


The uninformed press will say this is United States losing markets when it is really just normal activity.

[Precious_b]

What maggies don't address is that cutting funding for USAID is also cutting the financial throat of the american breadbelt with grains they would purchase to put forth to goodwill exports exercising the soft power of this country.

[farmstud60]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

What maggies don't address is that cutting funding for USAID is also cutting the financial throat of the american breadbelt with grains they would purchase to put forth to goodwill exports exercising the soft power of this country.

Nope, not enough to move corn or wheat 1 cent a bushel

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by farmstud60

Nope, not enough to move corn or wheat 1 cent a bushel

Can you give the numbers of what USAID purchased from the American farmers, farm?

I would know more about that, but it is ranching roots that I know.

[farmstud60]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

Can you give the numbers of what USAID purchased from the American farmers, farm?

I would know more about that, but it is ranching roots that I know.

I don't have the exact number but as a percentage of exports it is barely enough to notice.

[HDGristle]

Total USAID was 1.1 million metric tons of food @ about $2 billion

Broken up over corn, wheat, soybeans, sorghum, etc.

[Lucas McCain]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

Can you give the numbers of what USAID purchased from the American farmers, farm?

I would know more about that, but it is ranching roots that I know.

Originally Posted by farmstud60

I don't have the exact number but as a percentage of exports it is barely enough to notice.

I guess $2bln is chump change to big baller farm60. I bet to those many farmers who depend on it as large part of their annual revenue strongly believe otherwise though.

I know the OP mentioned tariffs and not USAID but hard not to mention the economic impact of USAID as P_b did when discussing the impact on farmers.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...s/78382724007/

USAID sources food aid directly from American farmers
When USAID provides food aid to people in need, we source 41% of that food directly from American farmers ‒ approximately $2 billion in food aid purchased from American farms in states across the country: everything from wheat from Kansas, soybean oil from Iowa to peanut products from Georgia.

[Unique_Carpenter]

Out here in West Kansas....
Every outfit I know, like 20 miles in each direction...
Has presold all of their crops.
Wheat, corn and soybeans.

We're one of the few that run cattle and we're sending a couple dozen every week to the butcher outfits.

Whose getting screwed are not the farmers, but the commodities brokers that have bought whatever, but instead of having pre-buy deal with an American food stuffs processer, they play the spot market for overseas sales.
The commodities markets are a financial game.

My fav story is a trailer load of cattle outside a commodities broker office building cause they wanted to "renegotiate" a cancel contract fee.

[VitaMan]

Hopefully we don't go back to the old farm programs, when farmers were paid not to plant.
Called "set aside" programs.

[Schwarzer Ritter]

Prove that. USAID is not aid regardless of how you pronounce the name. It appears to be a clearing house for a slush fund. There is no significant aid for farmers overall. Everyone wants and needs food. Our farmers grow food. If one person does not buy it, someone else will.

[farmstud60]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

I guess $2bln is chump change to big baller farm60. I bet to those many farmers who depend on it as large part of their annual revenue strongly believe otherwise though.

I know the OP mentioned tariffs and not USAID but hard not to mention the economic impact of USAID as P_b did when discussing the impact on farmers.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...s/78382724007/

USAID sources food aid directly from American farmers
When USAID provides food aid to people in need, we source 41% of that food directly from American farmers ‒ approximately $2 billion in food aid purchased from American farms in states across the country: everything from wheat from Kansas, soybean oil from Iowa to peanut products from Georgia.

When you are talking total US exports yes, it is chump change.

[VitaMan]

Prove that. USAID is not aid regardless of how you pronounce the name. It appears to be a clearing house for a slush fund. There is no significant aid for farmers overall. Everyone wants and needs food. Our farmers grow food. If one person does not buy it, someone else will.

That is incorrect. Farmers produce far more food than the US population consumes. Foreign markets are needed. That is why the "set aside" program was needed, to reduce food production, and paying farmers not to plant. And if more costly, fewer foreign markets will buy.

It fits in with the problem of America trying to keep family farms ongoing as a business, instead of it all turning into corporate farming. An individual farm cannot affect prices, only react to them. So government programs are needed.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by farmstud60

When you are talking total US exports yes, it is chump change.

$14 million would have killed an entire business that makes nutrient rich peanut butter.

$5 million would have killed a 120 year old hog farming business

It's not chump chsnge to the small farmers who actually to sell to USAID

[Unique_Carpenter]

From a feb 6th article
https://www.startribune.com/usaid-sh...acts/601218218
Minnetonka-based Cargill, Inver Grove Heights-based CHS Inc. and Minneapolis trader Sinamco sold a total of $70 million in sorghum, wheat and peas to the agency’s Food for Peace program

These are Commodities Brokers not Farmers.