Opinion - Trump is correct on Ukraine and right to put Zelensky on the spot

[Devo]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

“Help them help the Russians deplete that old Soviet stockpile.”

Seriously? They’re being depleted alright, in the chest of innocent Ukrainian conscripts. You people and your death wishes. It’s all fun and games until you or someone you love comes home in a pine fucking box.

Trust me, most of that old Soviet Stockpile has already been emptied and was mostly exported, to us here in the USA already.

I have watched millions of surplus rifles come into one importer in Western PA, as well as BILLIONS of rounds of former Soviet bloc ammuntion.

At one point, he was even dealing in tanks and Migs, no shit, you could get both running, for less than scrap, but no spare parts, the Soviets never planned for more than a two week war for Europe.

Its partially why the Russians have been stymied, they don't have the capacity to build tanks to replace what they have lost, and going forward, its not getting better, its why they were being given arms from China, NoKO, and Iran.

Further, the technology, which was never as good, hasn't been improved as much as they stated, which is why our legacy arms, anti tank missles etc, work so well, because they are still effective against their most modern weapons, which aren't.

You all look at the politics, I see the arms, and the tools to conduct the war, without drones, this would have looked more like WW1, which, it does already.

I have been lucky to have combat footage sent to me from a former Soviet Military guy, amazing, it looks more like the Paintball war games we played in the 80s, at least in the rural areas, but most of the damage to cities has been rockets, bombs, artillery and not lots of feet on the ground.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

“Help them help the Russians deplete that old Soviet stockpile.”

Seriously? They’re being depleted alright, in the chest of innocent Ukrainian conscripts. You people and your death wishes. It’s all fun and games until you or someone you love comes home in a pine fucking box.

I had 3 people in Ukraine I know who were killed, 1 of whom there was only enough left of to fit in cigar box. Less of him left than 10 toros wrapped up in celophane and surrounded by cedar.

Make whatever assumptions you like. We won't see eye to eye

Every single T-54 and T-55 that hits the battlefield and ends up on the Oryx database is just as sweet to me as a T-80.

Zelensky and the Ukrainians have done tremendous things with the aid they've been given as they fight for their land and their way of life.

Hasn't been $350 billion. Continuing to toss out fake numbers and this Russia friendly narrative do nothing but help Vlad toss lipstick on his pig.

[onawbtngr546]

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-dictator/amp/


“Did I say that? I can’t believe I said that. Next question.”



That's some real Steve Urkel Did I do that? vibe right there.

[Devo]

Aptly named thread, after Zs failed presser today.

[HDGristle]

Trump and JD acted like childish pricks today and didn't get their questionable minerals deal.

Fun to watch Trump flail and get fact checked while Marco's work imploded. Embarrassing as fuck for all Americans and then Zelensky trolled JD with his thank you notes afterwards to world leaders.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Opinion - Trump is correct on Ukraine and right to put Zelensky on the spot




Douglas MacKinnon, opinion contributor
Sat, February 22, 2025 at 11:00 AM CST
5 min read


https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-t...rc=fp_deeplink


Multiple times on this site over the last three years, I have advocated for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine.


I have argued that Americans were well within our rights to ask hard and needed questions about the various tripwires littering the battlefields in Ukraine, which could trigger World War III; the background and connections of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky; strict accountability for the hundreds of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars shoveled into the country by the Biden-Harris administration; off-shore bank accounts; if regime change in Russia was the ultimate goal, with Ukraine being used as a proxy; and the more than 1 million human beings killed or wounded in that war.


So many seemed unwilling to pose these questions. Why?


Since the outbreak of the war, it has seemed that “journalism” partially disappeared as many of the “news” reports about the war began with “Ukraine says …” or “Zelensky says …” News editors and journalists are human. Humans have biases. That said, the professional and ethical standards of journalists should override such biases.


Unfortunately, as we saw when then-businessman Donald Trump first declared his intention to run for president and a number of journalists quickly identified themselves as part of the “resistance” against him, ethics and professionalism can be put to the side based upon ideology, personal animus or a mob mentality. But at what cost to the actual truth and the welfare of our nation?


The same question now pertains to Ukraine. I have no problem with anyone being vehemently opposed to Vladimir Putin and Russia. But such opposition should not blind them to the obvious questions that must still be asked about what is best for the U.S. and our people.


And guess who has been asking those questions — while issuing critically needed warnings — since day one? Trump.


During the earliest months of the war, while making an appearance on 77 WABC radio, then-former President Trump was asked by host John Catsimatidis what things “keep you up at night?” Trump answered, “I think more than anything else, I think we could end up in World War III and it could be because of all of the horrible things that took place in Ukraine.”


For three years, Trump has not only been warning about the war in Ukraine igniting World War III but crying out to stop the tragic slaughter of the human beings caught in the crosshairs. Warning and cries that were ignored by so many, especially on the left and in journalism.


This fact is curious when you realize that so many from the left and in journalism spoke out so loudly and consistently against the war in Iraq because of the deaths triggered by the “illegal war” of President George W. Bush. Where have those voices been for the last three years? By any accurate and honest measurement, many more have been killed or wounded in Ukraine than the Iraq War.


This week, Trump rightfully decided to put Zelensky on the spot via a Truth Social post. He wrote: “Think of it, a modestly successful comedian, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, to go into a War that couldn’t be won, that never had to start, but a War that he, without the U.S. and ‘TRUMP,’ will never be able to settle … On top of this, Zelenskyy admits that half of the money we sent him is ‘MISSING.’ He refuses to have Elections, is very low in Ukrainian Polls, and the only thing he was good at was playing Biden ‘like a fiddle.’ A Dictator without Elections, Zelenskyy better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left…I love Ukraine, but Zelenskyy has done a terrible job, his Country is shattered, and MILLIONS have unnecessarily died — And so it continues …”

... GLAD to see Trump put Zelenskyy on the spot.
This shoulda be done a LONG time ago.

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[Unique_Carpenter]

The little ones need to determine which worldwide sphere's of influence they prefer to be in, before others make the decision for them.

[HDGristle]

Funny. He's still got bigger balls than Trump and Vance combined

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Trump and JD acted like childish pricks today and didn't get their questionable minerals deal.

Fun to watch Trump flail and get fact checked while Marco's work imploded. Embarrassing as fuck for all Americans and then Zelensky trolled JD with his thank you notes afterwards to world leaders.

He already has apologized for being a little dickhead



Zelensky Apologizes for Tense Meeting with Trump During Bret Baier Interview

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraha...rview-n2653043

[HDGristle]

Did Trump or JV apologize for being pricks?

[Devo]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Did Trump or JV apologize for being pricks?

They have zero reasons to apologize, its our money he's begging for.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Did Trump or JV apologize for being pricks?

No. and who said they were pricks to little Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelenskyy?

[HDGristle]

Got it. Rationalize, protect and spin on, my boy.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Got it. Rationalize, protect and spin on, my boy.

As politicians and diplomats across Europe and America scrambled to react to the confrontation, Zulu and Italian Job star Michael Caine delivered his succinct seven-word verdict: "You're only supposed to sign a ceasefire."


https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-..._like_this_top


he had one thing to do .. just one thing and he blew it by being a punk.

[HDGristle]

He was supposed to sign a mineral deal until Trump and JV fucked it up. And now our allies aren't letting our subs refuel.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...t-refuses-fill

Guess Trump and JV should apologize