An American jailed in Russia for years, coming home.

[Green_Mountain]

And related to Fogel’s release with Russia there is a Whatabout worth mentioning.

Biden released Viktor Bout, the Russian arms dealer known as the “merchant of death” in exchange for Brittney Griner.

Trump got back Marc Fogel without releasing any terrorists as far as we know.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Sadly for you, Devo, he didn't say that. Neither did Stormy. But lmk how the fanfic turns out.

So what did he give Vlad in return?

More impossible to answer questions?

Like "When did you quit beating your wife?".

[Devo]

And Trump didn't need to add my quote, the Russkies were already aware.

Capitulation is the word you seek.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Devo

More impossible to answer questions?

You kinda need to know to figure out if it was equivalent exchange

Glad he's back. Will be interesting to see at what coat.

[Devo]

I want you to know that I am not a hero in this at all. And President Trump is a hero," Fogel said after meeting Trump.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

You kinda need to know to figure out if it was equivalent exchange

Glad he's back. Will be interesting to see at what coat.

really? who and or what did Trump give up for Fogel's return?


nothing here from the anti-Trump NY Times i can find ...


Russia Releases U.S. Prisoner After Talks With Trump Envoy

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/11/u...ed-russia.html


no matter what Trump gave in return was a better deal than Biden giving up the "Merchant of Death" for Brittany Griner

yes?

[HDGristle]

Really does depend on what he gave up

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Really does depend on what he gave up

sorry .. Biden already gave up "The Merchant of Death" .. who else is worse for Trump to fess up?

[Devo]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

sorry .. Biden already gave up "The Merchant of Death" .. who else is worse for Trump to fess up?

You know, that's a good question.

What could Trump offer the Ogliarch who controls 1/6 th of the world?

Caviar? Nope.

Cham Pag Nee, guessing not.

Gold?

How much could you really move in a diplomatic transaction, even on Air Force One?

So what is worth more than gold?

[HDGristle]

https://www.newsweek.com/what-did-tr...e-know-2029710

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by chizzy

Save ur posting devo, guys like ona and hd can find fault with anything trump does. They could be attacked by a grizzley bear and if trump shot the bear and saved them, they would bitch it was animal cruelty

Yeah, the forum is basically an ona-hd circle jerk lately. Reddit with some hoe reviews.

[HDGristle]

So it WAS a prisoner swap.

The Russians get Alexander Vinnik back. Convicted money launderer and crypto fraudster.

https://www.wtae.com/article/marc-fo...ussia/63770182

On the plus side it was nice to see Fogel holding an Iron City standing next to Trumpybear

[onawbtngr546]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Yeah, the forum is basically an ona-hd circle jerk lately. Reddit with some hoe reviews.

You mean you aren't at all curious as to what was given or promised to russia in exchange for the prisoner?


Would it be fine if we gave them some working ICBMs, just to get the guy home? Or a guarantee that trump will bail from NATO when putin decides to go further west?


Come on, think.

[Devo]

The US gave up a Russian convicted of financial crimes, not the "Lord of War".

[Devo]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

You mean you aren't at all curious as to what was given or promised to russia in exchange for the prisoner?


Would it be fine if we gave them some working ICBMs, just to get the guy home? Or a guarantee that trump will bail from NATO when putin decides to go further west?


Come on, think.

I do.

It's why I have no response to silly questions.