Decency values and morals

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

You're a funny guy!

I'm sure there are a few more perjoratives you could stuff into that well crafted statement.

I lament the death - make that murder - of decency, values, morals and our ability to communicate with each other.

You need more pejoratives? Lol.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by DNinja69

When it all just boils down to 'commie libs' then there you have it!

If you can't respect the values of 'the other side' then yours start to matter much less as well.

I would enjoy hearing any thoughtful explanations as to why a Trump supporters values should override anyone elses

America isn't a communist Country when someone in power such as Biden veers in that direction that's where I draw the line.

[oilfieldace]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

You contradicted the shit out of yourself. No self respecting patriotic American would ever respect a Commie Lib to guide this country. Trump often times insulted his political opponents. Biden often times insulted the people. You gonna support that?

NoI will not accept that , nor will I accept telling a black man if you don’t vote vote for me you are not black.

I have seen or heard Trump say things about individuals, but I have never heard him call half the country deplorable. Those are Nazi statements just as Hitlertalked about Jews

[winn dixie]

Yes both sides are to blame.
But no one. Has been as divisive and lacking as a human more than trumpf.
He is single handedly eroding America's morals and stature.

[oilfieldace]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Yes both sides are to blame.
But no one. Has been as divisive and lacking as a human more than trumpf.
He is single handedly eroding America's morals and stature.

Rent free

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by DNinja69

When it all just boils down to 'commie libs' then there you have it!

If you can't respect the values of 'the other side' then yours start to matter much less as well.

I would enjoy hearing any thoughtful explanations as to why a Trump supporters values should override anyone elses

The usual suspects have spoken.

They believe in their own moral code, and that one person isn't subject to ANY code.

The term "exclusive" usually means rights that conservatives see as only for me and not for thee.

Morality cannot be legislated, and the fact that it's on a hooker board is like scraping the bottom of the proverbial barrel.

Owning the Libs is just another troll activity that doesn't result in discussions; just finger pointing.

The GOP and conservatives have hidden behind these two gems:

"God and Country" and "We the People..."

nothing wrong with either saying, but apparently you could go to war and be a democrat and be equally unwelcome by the GOP party due to your political beliefs.

At best conservatives, unlike democrats, have mingled the religion of god and country which is exactly what the founders said not to do, and they shield themselves with the we the people, so as to denote that they are constitutionalist- yet they are fueled by angertainment organization like FOX. -"even MTG and others want to rejoin the two as a basis of mandating compliance with what their good book said to do. Even the judge in Alabama called out religion in his rulings, and Mike Johnson....The guy is an absolute religious zealot with his inter-mingling of religion and politics. ...But I digress..

What I'd like to hear from the conservatives is what does We the people mean to you?>?

• Does it mean Liberalism has no place in our country despite all of us being entitled to liberal/ socialism constructs like social security? Will you be giving your SSI check back monthly if that is the case?
  
• When answering that- will it be the contrast and hypocrisy of our evolving constitution and all its amendments that come to mind, is it only the first rendition of it that counts, or does it include all the changes now and in the future?
  
• As a nation that came from religious roots, why do you think the founders wanted to have a separation of church and state specifically?
  
  Does the morality of a candidate matter at all, or does the outcome justify the means at any cost?
  
  Do you believe that Trump has family values- emulated by his care for others in mind, or simply his personal values and his own family singularly?

[oilfieldace]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

The usual suspects have spoken.

They believe in their own moral code, and that one person isn't subject to ANY code.

The term "exclusive" usually means rights that conservatives see as only for me and not for thee.

Morality cannot be legislated, and the fact that it's on a hooker board is like scraping the bottom of the proverbial barrel.

Owning the Libs is just another troll activity that doesn't result in discussions; just finger pointing.

The GOP and conservatives have hidden behind these two gems:

"God and Country" and "We the People..."

nothing wrong with either saying, but apparently you could go to war and be a democrat and be equally unwelcome by the GOP party due to your political beliefs.

At best conservatives, unlike democrats, have mingled the religion of god and country which is exactly what the founders said not to do, and they shield themselves with the we the people, so as to denote that they are constitutionalist- yet they are fueled by angertainment organization like FOX. -"even MTG and others want to rejoin the two as a basis of mandating compliance with what their good book said to do. Even the judge in Alabama called out religion in his rulings, and Mike Johnson....The guy is an absolute religious zealot with his inter-mingling of religion and politics. ...But I digress..

What I'd like to hear from the conservatives is what does We the people mean to you?>?

• Does it mean Liberalism has no place in our country despite all of us being entitled to liberal/ socialism constructs like social security? Will you be giving your SSI check back monthly if that is the case?
  
• When answering that- will it be the contrast and hypocrisy of our evolving constitution and all its amendments that come to mind, is it only the first rendition of it that counts, or does it include all the changes now and in the future?
  
• As a nation that came from religious roots, why do you think the founders wanted to have a separation of church and state specifically?
  
  Does the morality of a candidate matter at all, or does the outcome justify the means at any cost?
  
  Do you believe that Trump has family values- emulated by his care for others in mind, or simply his personal values and his own family singularly?

You write a lot, impressive. To answer your question about Trump with a question with one, how does Cheating on your wife figure into your ideas about morality. I am quite sure others have done it and got elected, maybe the twoBushesand Reagan did ,I know of 3 in my lifetime that did.
Yes I overlook the weakness of person if their policies align with mine.

I doubt seriously that any President in my lifetime was true blue with the exception of Jimmy Carter, he seemed like a good moral man .

[Salty Again]

... Decency, values and morals - What you get with Trump!

#### Salty

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Yes both sides are to blame.
But no one. Has been as divisive and lacking as a human more than trumpf.
He is single handedly eroding America's morals and stature.

Democrats stick it to the country. Trump sticks it to his opponents. He even said, "They aren't after me as much as they are after you".

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Democrats stick it to the country. Trump sticks it to his opponents. He even said, "They aren't after me as much as they are after you".

Fascism 101.

You’re an easy mark, Levi!

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Decency, values and morals - What you get with Trump!

#### Salty

Thanks for the absurdity and ironic laugh at combining any of those adjectives to align with Trump.

[DNinja69]

Originally Posted by oilfieldace

Per OP this is supposed to be about morals and Decency, not about a party or 1 single individual.

1. Roe V Wade (The people widely support some form of legal abortion. The decent thing is to limit and prevent abuse. Not criminalize)
2. The degrading of the American Family as a unit. (I know what this means but Liberty as described in the Constitution provides the family unit to be what each family desires. It is evolving not being degraded)
3. There are only 2 genders. (Exactly what power does is our government provided to dictate what gender identity an individual chooses? Much like abortion the task is to manage it in ways that provide everyone their choice without allowing for abuse)
4. Same sex marriage (Some will say this is immoral others would argue that to deny anyone the status of 'married' is unconstitutional. We are either FREE or we are bound to the Bible. Can't have both)
5. Allow teachers to express ideology, rather than teaching class. (Are we still pretending young people get their morals from teachers?)
6. Doing away with capital punishment (The people support it so like abortion its about guidelines)
7. Blaming Racism on any party. (Just because we can all drink from the same water fountains doesn't mean racism is gone. I do agree it occupies way too much space in our 'political' minds)
8. Failure to vet people who come here illegal
9. No respect for your fellow man/woman. (Plenty of disrespect from both sides if values and decency are the goal neither 'side' had anything close to clean hands)
10. Getting away from God. (Read the Constitution. Again we are either free or we are bound to the Bible)
11. Sweeping around your own back porch!

I blame both parties, and no single person.


There are many more examples

Both parties share some blame but we the people are the real culprit. We continue to vote against shit we don't like without much real expectation of getting what we should be from our tax dollars and votes. I'm guilty of it we all are.

So long as our money flows into their pockets without us demanding much accountability the squabble will continue.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Don't know which is funnier. Decency values and morals in:

• Politics
• Democrats
• A Provider board

Maybe should have included a poll with that.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Fascism 101.

You’re an easy mark, Levi!

There are elements of Fascism in our culture as well as Socialism. So if you're trying to pin that specifically on Trump you'll look foolish.

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

There are elements of Fascism in our culture as well as Socialism. So if you're trying to pin that specifically on Trump you'll look foolish.

I tend to agree, but there are some very Mussolini-esque styles that have really been demonstrated lately. We've seen even more rhetoric from the some of the past Hitler speeches have also been brought recently into the fray, by the GOP's candidate by mentioning poisoning the blood, and others which are absolutely stunningly accepted by conservatives as OK- nothing to see here, just a rage whining orange moron rattling a speech written likely by Stephen Miller who is literally a fucking Nazi.

Equally we should condemn the RED light background of Joey B's prior speech a few years back, as it was a huge mistake, literally demonstrating Hitler-esque cues of big red banners of swastikas, but in Red Lights to show dark brandon's innner rage.

HOw the fuck is any of that acceptable in politics?

It shouldn't be unless you are ok with the person saying that shit, and then not be surprised as those dictators of lore- who finally got what they deserved. They were strung up eventually or brought to justice via the same sword / gun they held it's constituents hostage.

As a reminder - It didn't end well for either of them and this should be absolutely unacceptable for any American to be ok with this type of bullshit.