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Old 09-21-2022, 06:51 PM   #16
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I have never been asked for anything besides a reference and maybe my name here on Eccie.

I also refuse to believe any escort is naive enough not to realize why giving your personal information to a confirmed criminal is a bad idea, and why giving your information to a confirmed criminal who is also hiding literally every personal detail about themselves is even worse.

Nobody gets into this business because they're straight laced and do the right thing.
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Old 09-21-2022, 07:03 PM   #17
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Nobody gets into this business because they're straight laced and do the right thing.
You mean "Venus VoodDoo" isn't her REAL name?
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Old 09-21-2022, 07:19 PM   #18
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I know, bro. Total betrayal, for real. Completely changed my outlook on life when I realized.
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Old 09-21-2022, 07:22 PM   #19
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Providers have every right to request whatever info they want to satisfy their safety concerns. There are clearly enough paying customers that are willing to provide RWI for those providers to continue requiring it. Most hobbyists I know would not provide it, but long-time horn dogs may not be their target market.
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Old 09-21-2022, 08:14 PM   #20
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I have never been asked for anything besides a reference and maybe my name here on Eccie.

I also refuse to believe any escort is naive enough not to realize why giving your personal information to a confirmed criminal is a bad idea, and why giving your information to a confirmed criminal who is also hiding literally every personal detail about themselves is even worse.

Nobody gets into this business because they're straight laced and do the right thing.
What a contemptuous thing to say! Interesting. I refuse to believe any client is so naive that they can’t understand why it’s probably a bad idea to meet with total strangers that a) seem to have a very low opinion of us b) seem unfamiliar with common screening practices & c) don’t want us to know who they are. We spend time & money on ads, websites, plus get verified on sites with our IDs. Are we really pretending like screening is the same as an escort outing herself to randos? Are you not also a criminal for buying the services?

Why are people mad about something they can very easily avoid? Seems like an excuse to talk down to providers & flex some sense of power — bragging that you would never do this or that. Does it prove that you aren’t a slave to pussy?Hmm. Maybe we all are. :P No matter how much people complain (or spread legal misinformation) there are clearly many clients that screen this way. You don’t have to be one of them lol
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:02 PM   #21
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It would be less annoying if any of them practiced actual opsec instead of this jumping through hoops, security blanket shit. You think using a fake number and "code" and whatever would stop them from convicting you? Or keep someone from finding out who you are? There are so many weird myths about LE it's kind of insane. People still ask "Are you a cop?" like the world is a fucking cartoon and they're going to go "Beat it, boys. We've been made!" and disappear in cloud of dust.

In other worlds nobody is asking to see your ID or whatever because they already know better, and you should know better too. You get personally vouched in by someone trusted, or you don't play the game. If anything this sort of shit just gives LE an in to fuck with you because the system is so easy to circumvent. I wonder who would be able to fake an ID, a job, and references without any fear of repercussions if they chose to? That is like literally all undercovers do. Honestly, it should be more suspicious that some dude is super willing to give you an orgy of evidence against him.

Hell, the cops could just roll up into any of the obvious traps they wanted to, guns blazing, and shut the entire thing down. I have seen girls who literally respond to every text with price, location, text me when you get here, and not once, in years, did a cop ever show up and bust them, which is honestly fucking sad if you understand what is going on.

The reality is cops don't care about 99% of people doing illegal shit, and they're doing the shit too anyway. It's not worth the time, money, or effort to pop misdemeanors. If you're not hurting people, stealing shit, dealing, or "managing" girls, they don't care. They have way bigger, more evil, sick fuck fish to deal with than most of yall even have any concept of. And besides that, if you're in an "agency" with a "manager" the cops probably already know who you are. People who are successful in pandering a roster of women across state lines tend to be sensible enough to cover their ass, because an "employee" getting popped can come back on them, and they could actually be worth trying to arrest.

And don't think I'm just ripping on girls, because John's do just as much senseless shit too. If anything, John's need to be even more careful. Believe it or not, LEs overall attitude/policy towards escorts is sympathetic. They are way more interested in getting girls out and turning them into a witness than they are with throwing them in jail. Catching John's on the other hand and throwing the book at them is considered popular and moral. The perception is "hobbyists" are losers who take advantage of women in desperate situations all for lust. It's not exactly a prestigious position; it's not as bad as being a "manager", but it's still very scummy. Nobody cares if a "hobbyist" gets in trouble, and if anything they cheer it on. And from LE's perspective, practically, it's very difficult to go after the supply and much easier to attack the demand. So they are more than happy to bend you over and drill you as a lesson and a warning.

I never see agency chicks. Or anyone else with a "manager". If the ad isn't obvious in the first place, it's usually pretty easy to see the signs once you're there. So no worries.
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:58 PM   #22
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Stop complaining and just find someone else to book with!! Damn

No one is running off into the sunset with your ID or care about using your information! The majority of us just care about SAFETY….and actually would like to know who we are meeting. If you don’t want us to know that just decline and MOVE ON

SEX WORK in general isn’t naturally safe but I haven’t had any issues since I learned about screening and how to do it well. The people I meet are respectful, generous and awesome human beings and I’m forever grateful to attract these type of humans BUT I’d be lying if I said EVERYONE is great but that’s just life and so is this!…YES some ask for references, ID ect ect…if you don’t agree just move on instead of throwing a tantrum and slandering someone business.


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There is literally people in this WORLD who HATE sex workers I’m sure you know that….and would try to cause us harm just because…stealing your information is CRAZY ESPECIALLY if the GOAL is to build clientele and I have never heard of anyone profiting off of a ID….This whole screening thing sound like a broken record by this point y’all should know WHY we screen….Stop the bitching and find someone else because trust me the ones who prefer to be safe aren’t budging on screening…this board is always trying to tell US how to run OUR business. If you don’t like it find someone else. Simple!
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Old 09-22-2022, 07:49 AM   #23
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OK this thread has really gone off the rails. I posted this to see if anyone has had any issues with this supposed "Brazilian" ad that comes up time and again on Eros, and the reason is that I was blackmailed by someone, and they found my SO's social media and sent me a picture, and demanding I send them money or they would spill the beans. They did end up contacting my SO through text (have no idea how they got her cell), and told her I was cheating on her. They then texted me and said send money via cashapp and they would tell her they were making it up. The only entity I gave RWI to was to this person from the ad on Eros, and I felt really shitty after doing it. Again, has anyone seen any of these Brazilian girls? The first thing they respond with after inquiring about the provider is a standard message asking for a photo of a driver's license, a workplace badge or business card, and a selfie of you holding this. It seems that would be a lot of evidence to have for this type of scam. And I'm not interested in hearing responses about how you would never fall for this, I'm only interested if you had an similar experience after contacting these people because I want to know if this was the source. Again, here is the ad (they show different girls): https://www.eros.com/louisiana/new_o...2105.htm?cat=1
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Old 09-22-2022, 09:35 AM   #24
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I just texted them and after telling me the rates, they did ask for an id photo and selfie. I told them to fuck off.
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:00 AM   #25
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I just texted them and after telling me the rates, they did ask for an id photo and selfie. I told them to fuck off.
Let’s be REAL you weren’t genuinely interested in booking them bc the original poster already stated they asked for ID to BOOK …and to contact them KNOWING what they require is time waster energy. How’d you like it if someone contacts you KNOWING ALREADY what you require and then bitch about what they ALREADY KNOW. Crazy right
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:07 AM   #26
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Let’s be REAL you weren’t genuinely interested in booking them bc the original poster already stated they asked for ID and to contact them KNOWING what they require is time waster energy.
Yep, you got me Lia. I wasn’t really planning to book an appointment with a blackmailer.
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:17 AM   #27
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Yep, you got me Lia. I wasn’t really planning to book an appointment with a blackmailer.
And for THAT alone you need a good PADDLE to teach you some respect! I won’t be the one but along the line hopefully you get some good discipline bc you’re begging for it lmao
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Old 09-22-2022, 11:59 AM   #28
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I screen my clients n think that it’s extremely important too. I accept provider references, but unfortunately, sometimes other providers don’t respond. I also ask for ID, RWI, Instagram, Facebook, or LinkedIn. I obviously don’t comment to like any of their posts, I just look through the page, comments, etc. if a gent doesn’t wanna give any of that info then I won’t see them. My safety comes first!
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I just think it’s hilarious that clients think they can talk down to us about our screening methods like we’re not the ones making sure we don’t get arrested every single time we screen a new client. Lmaooooo I think we’ve put more thought & research into our jobs than you have.

It is extremely rude to contact a provider just to tell her to fuck off when you already know how she screens…

OP, I’m sorry you fell for a scam. The best way to stay safe when looking for a provider is to look for active verified ads, social media, websites, reviews, etc. but yes as many people have said now, that is a normal way to screen & doesn’t mean anyone is trying to blackmail you. Best of luck
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I just think it’s hilarious that clients think they can talk down to us about our screening methods like we’re not the ones making sure we don’t get arrested every single time we screen a new client. Lmaooooo I think we’ve put more thought & research into our jobs than you have.

It is extremely rude to contact a provider just to tell her to fuck off when you already know how she screens…

OP, I’m sorry you fell for a scam. The best way to stay safe when looking for a provider is to look for active verified ads, social media, websites, reviews, etc. but yes as many people have said now, that is a normal way to screen & doesn’t mean anyone is trying to blackmail you. Best of luck
Exactly…I saw you on this post by yourself and you held your own by yourself!…but I had to come in too bc not today dammit! Lol hope your week is awesome though <3
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