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Old 06-26-2022, 02:30 PM   #16
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I look forward to his second electoral loss. It’ll be grand.
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Old 06-26-2022, 02:57 PM   #17
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I have never read the Roe decision and probably will not read this one. But my understanding is that Roe was faulty on leangle grounds and this court decision examined and exposed those faults, then said it was essentially null and void.



The late Justice Ruth Bader-Ginsberg wrote that Roe was a weak decision width flaws and could be overturned for those reasons.

The "right to an abortion" is not actually found in either the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. However, the tenth Amendment says that rights not given to the federal government by the Constitution are given to the States.

Which means that each state may, through their elected legislators, decide what is what regarding abortion.

That is how I understand the current situation. Doesn't seem that complex when you boil it down.

It isn't complex at all and every hour of every day now, we hear Democrats saying that the court took away what the majority of Americans want. OK, if that is true, then you have no problem putting it to a vote? Here's a good test to put to a Democrat.


"What does Democracy mean"? If you aren't quite sure which seems to be epidemic among Democrats, here is a little help from the dictionary.


Definition of democracy




1a: government by the people especially : rule of the majority
b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections



So how the sam hell is returning the vote to the people, anything other than democracy at work? Dem's fall flat on their face making this argument.


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Old 06-26-2022, 03:20 PM   #18
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Fortunes for Trump may be changing for the worse, but what some people on the Left, inexplicably can't seem to understand is that his policies are not. As a matter of fact, Trump's policies, Conservative policies in the wake of the woke Democrats policies, are becoming more popular with the voters. Whether you believe polls are "accurate or not", when you can't find a single poll done by Anybody, even on the hard left, that shows Biden policies gaining approval, you make a fool of yourself arguing other wise.


I'm not a registered Republican here in Florida so I can't vote in the Republican primary for President. I'll have no say in who wins the Republican nomination but it doesn't matter because I'll be voting for MTG ( please God no ) before I'll vote for Biden, Harris, Buttplug or Pocahontas Warren. Why? Because I vote policy not individuals.


Bill Mahr made a very interesting statement at the end of his show Friday, which was a very good show with a Gay guy, a Lesbian and as Mahr calls himself, a Libertine. At the end of a very interesting discussion, Mahr and both his guests said that Desantis could beat Biden, hands down, no questions asked and also said admittedly with some sarcasm, that any Republican but Trump could beat Biden because he is just that unpopular.


Now the Dem's think they are going to get a political boost from the SC decision and I have no doubt they will and if they had a reasonable Democrat running, it might make the difference but not with "these Democrat policies" no matter who the Democrat is.


Pelosi said the other day at a Drag Queen get together that "Drag is what America is about". Cute huh? And if you think that is true, well, you have lost your mind to be blunt about it.


I for one hope Trump doesn't run and DeSantis does but either way, I'll be voting for the Republican nominee.


And it will be grand!
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Old 06-26-2022, 03:27 PM   #19
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You anti Trump buttercups suck it up, Trump coming for you and you can run but not hide. Black white brown yellow he will eradicate you all. HAIL TO CHIEFTRUMP!!!!
White supremacy? No.

A fucking Nazi talks like that.

Hope you’re proud, boy. You’re now a red flag.
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Old 06-27-2022, 08:51 AM   #20
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A partial transcript from Sunday with Maria Bartiromo and Mark Levine. Mark is particularly well versed on the US Constitution and is highly aware of the differences between a Constitutional Republic versus say Communism.

Unrelated side note about Maria. I met her way back in the day when she was just a stock market reporter (tiny little thang). She sat in a tiny booth above the stock market floor. It was a one person studio with a directors chair that had a fold down desk top. The wall in front of her was the unmanned electronics, teleprompter, camera etc. The whole affair was maybe a 4 ft x 6 ft room (over sized phone booth basically).
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BARTIROMO: You are the former chief of staff of the Department of Justice. You have been talking about what has taken place all weekend. Let’s walk through the ruling. Tell us how you see things.

LEVIN: First of all, we don’t need lectures from Joe Biden, who plagiarized his way through law school. He has no idea what’s going on.

Secondly, the media in America are so thoroughly corrupt. They haven’t read Roe v. Wade or the subsequent Casey decision or even this decision. And, thirdly, neither has Pelosi or Schumer, because they come right out of the box.

Here’s the decision. How do they know what is in the decision in 30 seconds to have press releases and so forth? And they’re lying about this decision. This decision is very simple.

Here we have what’s called the Constitution of the United States, not the tax code. It’s not Obamacare. It’s very simple. It’s about 5,000 words. And you can look all you want. The word abortion is not in there. And it’s never going to be in there, unless they add to it.

Here’s the deal. Really, Roe vs. Wade wasn’t overturned. Roe vs. Wade was fundamentally altered by a decision in 1992 — Roe was 1973 — called the Casey decision in Pennsylvania, which changed the trimester test and had the undue burden and viability test, which they basically stole from Europe and from other kinds of laws we have in this country.

The Supreme Court has been shooting from the hip on abortion now for about half-a-century. And that’s why you have all these cases keep working their way to the Supreme Court from federal district courts, and so all these pro-abortion groups constantly litigating to prevent the states from having any regulation whatsoever.

And let’s be clear about what this decision says. This decision says something really unique in American history. We have a very, very powerful body, the Supreme Court, saying, we don’t have any power. When’s the last time you heard Congress or the president or the bureaucracy say, we don’t have any power, so we’re going to give this authority where it belongs, back to the people in the states?

It’s that simple. They’re interpreting the Constitution. It’s not taking anybody’s rights away. It’s not giving rights to anybody. First of all, God does that. But, that said, there’s 50 states for a reason. We’re not a parliamentary system like in Canada, like in France. We have 50 states for a reason, 50 legislatures for a reason, so that decisions can be made by the people in these states.

BARTIROMO: Yes.

LEVIN: The majority leader in the Senate is from New York. The speaker is from San Francisco. They don’t get to decide everything in between the country and trying to impose their will.

And the court rightly says, look, we’re nine justices. Sometimes, these are 5-4 votes.

BARTIROMO: Yes.

LEVIN: The Casey vote was 5-4. The Roe vote was 7-2. This vote was basically 5 to 3 to 1.

We shouldn’t be deciding these cultural issues for the American people. That’s why we’re at each other’s throats. We have a system for that.

BARTIROMO: Yes.

LEVIN: It’s called federalism.

Now, what do the Democrats really stand for, Maria?

BARTIROMO: Yes.

LEVIN: And we know what they really stand for, because, right after the leak of the first draft, they put together a bill, and they voted on it. And it lost.

Now, let me tell you what is in that bill, because we’re debating the wrong issue.

BARTIROMO: That’s right.

LEVIN: We’re not debating Roe vs. Wade.

This is what the Democrats want, abortion up to delivery. That was in their bill.

BARTIROMO: Right.

LEVIN: All state laws invalidating abortion after five months of pregnancy, they would invalidate so. There’s viability. It’s a baby. It can live outside the womb, even under those circumstances. They support abortion.

Invalidate state laws that prevent abortion for sex selection. So, their law would have invalidated that. Invalidate conscience decisions, certain nurses or doctors because of their faith and so forth. We have those conscience laws in 46 states. The Democrats would have blown out.

That that’s why radical pro-abort types like Collins and Murkowski and others, even they had to vote against this law. So let’s be clear that Democrats stand for a partial-birth, last-second infanticide…

BARTIROMO: Wow.

LEVIN: … which means taking a big needle, shoving it into the top of the head of the baby, draining out their brain, turning it around in the womb…

BARTIROMO: Oh, God.

LEVIN: … and pulling it out by its feet. That’s why you never see graphics on these news shows explaining exactly what the Democrats stand for.

BARTIROMO: Yes.

LEVIN: That’s what they stand for. That’s what they would do.
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Who is Mark Levine?
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Old 06-27-2022, 09:13 AM   #22
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The very best political mind in the country,

BTW, stick that red flag up your goat smelling ass
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Mark Levine was a former chief of staff of the Department of Justice, unlike yourself.
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What is an internet search engine?
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The dipshit knows who he is
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Then who is Mark Levin?
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Old 06-27-2022, 12:32 PM   #26
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BTW, stick that red flag up your goat smelling ass
All the best… dumbass.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHSAHAHSG!!!!!
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Old 06-27-2022, 04:43 PM   #27
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BTW, stick that red flag up your goat smelling ass
... Hey Mate - I surely agree-on most of your views
'round here... But can ya go easy with the insults.
Thanks.

I will admit that Yssup is a bludger of the Highest order
- but let's try to keep things in the direction of civil.

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Old 06-27-2022, 06:33 PM   #28
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But not a plonker, eh?

Thanks for taking that Ugly American yobbo to school, Salty.


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Old 06-27-2022, 07:12 PM   #29
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Lot of petard hoisting going around the country. Many states passed "trigger" laws that went into effect when the SCOTUS dropped the bomb. Some democrats seeking reelection voted for them because they didn't think that Supremes would do what they did. Now, those laws are becoming real and some are pretty radical. More than a few democrats are now having to explain themselves. Sad.
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FYI every word that goober types is an insult. If you don’t know that then you be mighty naive. I am en eye for eye man. You talk shit , I speak back in English. If that offends anyone, I will file it appropriately. Till then if you want to discuss the merits of Trump’s great 4 years in office compared to what and how the opposition rules then I’ll be your Huckleberry. I am not taking any insults from a thumb sucking liberal. They have no argument or explanation for the dire straits this country is attempting to navigate without no one at the helm. Good day
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