Growing weary of kissing Russia's Ass

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

...Finland is not in NATO. ...

I was trying to think of another county that was not a member of NATO that was possibly is having second thoughts. That is a good one.

And it is an example of history repeating itself. The Winter War had Finland giving up land to Russia. *Though* they had their sovereignty recognized.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

"Growing weary of kissing Russia's Ass"


Just wait until we are having to kiss Xi's ass.

We've been doing it.

That will stop when A.) China calls in it's IOU. or B.) We pay it off.

Been that way for quite awhile.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

You guys do realize that arguing with clowns like LL in this forum is pretty much the equivalent of arguing with a babbling baby; don't you? The baby does not have the cognitive ability to understand you and the baby is unable to convey any logical message because of its lack of cognitive ability so it's pretty much like arguing with a goldfish in a bowl except that goldfish probably has a more evolved and bigger brain.

So true.
But there are some that have demonstrated the ability to commit to an open dialogue.
It's easy to spot the one that are closed minded. The hurling of expletives and insults is a good indicator.

But that is one of the advantages of the good ol' U.S. of A. We have the freedom to armchair warrior on a hooker board.

BTW, No one has answered a question I posted about how would they have stopped the situation in Ukraine in the first place. They seemed fixated on the time period of the current administration and policies of said.

[VitaMan]

They offer no solutions. Only:


:"We provided Ukraine weapons too."
"What about Hunter ?"
"Trump didn't cause NATO to weaken during his administration."

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

...That will stop when A.) China calls in it's IOU. or B.) We pay it off....

Considering the continuing size of our National debt and interest rates that will be rising for the foreseeable future, option B is nonexistent. Or as the below poster said:

Originally Posted by Precious_b

...Been that way for quite awhile.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

...BTW, No one has answered a question I posted about how would they have stopped the situation in Ukraine in the first place...

Thought I did already (maybe on another thread) I will repeat it for the hard of hearing:

Orange Man Good

And for the critically and mentally impaired: Ukraine did not get invaded by Russia,Russia, Russia under Trump 1.0

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Thought I did already (maybe on another thread) I will repeat it for the hard of hearing:

Orange Man Good

And for the critically and mentally impaired: Ukraine did not get invaded by Russia,Russia, Russia under Trump 1.0

And 9/11 didn't happen under the Clinton administration but many on the right would argue that the Clinton administration laid the groundwork.

What say you?

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

It's easy to spot the one that is closed minded. The hurling of expletives and insults is a good indicator.

We already know how easy it is to spot WTF. But thanks for calling him out.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

BTW, No one has answered a question I posted about how would they have stopped the situation in Ukraine in the first place.

We should not have kept making noises about the possibility of Ukraine joining NATO. That was like waving a fucking red flag in front of a bull.

At the very least, we should have waited until Putin was gone (and replaced by a leader less hostile to the West) before talking about the subject. Especially since Ukraine is on Russia's doorstep, deeply intertwined in Russian history, and we knew we wouldn't go to war to defend it.

History doesn't give us do-overs when we fuck up. We need to focus on what to do now. Historians can explain how and why it happened later. But it will probably sound something like this:

"The Russian invasion of Ukraine resulted from two immense strategic blunders... The first came on Nov. 10, when the U.S. and Ukraine signed a Charter on Strategic Partnership, which asserted America’s support for Kyiv’s right to pursue membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. The pact made it likelier than ever that Ukraine would eventually join NATO—an intolerable prospect for Vladimir Putin."

"The second strategic error was Mr. Putin’s underestimation of his rivals..."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cause-u...sb-11646413200

[VitaMan]

A valid post, also reference thread "major reason for Russian invasion."

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

I think that is a bit of stretch, even for you, that you could only reach if you are trying to say GW Bush was as incompetent as F Joe Biden and Billy-boy was as America First and Trump 1.0. We know for fact certain that Billy was more Billy BJs first than anything.

But the other stark contrast was even Billy-boy was already hunting for Bin Laden (with good reason) and maybe hesitated to pull the trigger on his way out the door, with several missing keys from the WH keyboards. Plus it is usually considered bad form to start a major war on your way out the door, as surely would have been the case if Billy-boy tried to axe a Saudi National without their express permission. Plus it seems Billy-boy didn't even have much of a working relationship with Sudan at the time. I suspect that, to this day, Billy still regrets not getting Osama under his watch.

Originally Posted by WTF

And 9/11 didn't happen under the Clinton administration but many on the right would argue that the Clinton administration laid the groundwork.

What say you?

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Thought I did already (maybe on another thread) I will repeat it for the hard of hearing:

Orange Man Good

And for the critically and mentally impaired: Ukraine did not get invaded by Russia,Russia, Russia under Trump 1.0

I be a mite deef there sonny.

Need a bit more meat on dem bones b'for i can gum on sometin'.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by lustylad

We already know how easy it is to spot WTF. But thanks for calling him out.

Ain't just one person. Lots of people to quote.

[Precious_b]

WYID, why start having feelings about bad form now?

[The_Waco_Kid]