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02-26-2022, 08:01 PM
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Say that around Washington these days and you'll be called a Putin stooge. One interesting thing about this is how both Democrat and Republican majorities agree that helping Ukraine with military supplies, is the right thing to do.
But since you seem to have information that I haven't heard yet, could you share with us just what China's and Trump's view on this is? Last I heard, China was encouraging Putin to go back to negotiations. Even XI can see the folly of Putin's obsession.
And I don't follow what Trump says because I couldn't care less what Trump says.
For a couple of weeks now on Bill Mahr's show, he gets all excited to report that Trump's support in the Republican party is falling
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I can't find the source of the news story at the moment, but it was yesterday that I read it where China condemned the U.S. for backing Ukraine up against Russia's wall. It was very Anti Biden in its talk (obviously since the libs love to stick their noses over seas).
As for Trump- well he said it was "genius of Putin to declare the independent states of Ukraine independent". Of course every liberal news outlet says Trump declared Putin "genius for going to war with Ukraine."
America's news outlets should be sanctioned, penalized, shut down. I've said this for years.
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02-26-2022, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HedonistForever
Say that around Washington these days and you'll be called a Putin stooge. One interesting thing about this is how both Democrat and Republican majorities agree that helping Ukraine with military supplies, is the right thing to do.
But since you seem to have information that I haven't heard yet, could you share with us just what China's and Trump's view on this is? Last I heard, China was encouraging Putin to go back to negotiations. Even XI can see the folly of Putin's obsession.
And I don't follow what Trump says because I couldn't care less what Trump says.
For a couple of weeks now on Bill Mahr's show, he gets all excited to report that Trump's support in the Republican party is falling
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You are right that is interesting that both party majorities agree with helping aid in military supplies. The things that make you go hmmmmmmm
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02-26-2022, 08:26 PM
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asking about Ukraine aid, hunh?
Why are US taxpayers forced to fund US military bases in 80 countries?
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02-26-2022, 08:28 PM
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asking about Ukraine aid, hunh?
Why are US taxpayers forced to fund US military bases in 80 countries?
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this is about Ukraine which is recent and without Congress approval.
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02-26-2022, 08:30 PM
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? If he did say that, which the photo shop doesn't show, why would he think that?
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What photo shop? They went out in the eighties 
Because he's another two faced Republican
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02-26-2022, 08:35 PM
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What photo shop? They went out in the eighties 
Because he's another two faced Republican
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those photos with words in them you folks create are funny at times but we all know they are manufactured ...
anyways back to the topic. Why are we half assing it???
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02-26-2022, 08:40 PM
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those photos with words in them you folks create are funny at times but we all know they are manufactured ...
anyways back to the topic. Why are we half assing it???
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Do you mean Photoshop? Big difference between that and a photo shop.....you must be an old tard o' the Trump
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02-26-2022, 08:42 PM
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Do you mean Photoshop? Big difference between that and a photo shop.....you must be an old tard o' the Trump
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whatever shop you are in....anyways back to the topic
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02-26-2022, 08:52 PM
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whatever shop you are in....anyways back to the topic
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not in a shop....
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02-26-2022, 08:52 PM
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Soon
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You mean ex-president.
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But not soon enough
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02-26-2022, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DesWad
$350 million in military aid to be exact.
What a bunch of dumbasses. Either protect the non-NATO nation or don't.
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OK, on point then.
Why is the Pentagon sending aid to Ukraine?
Because when the 350M is spent, alot of people (who are already rich) "get a taste", as Tony Soprano would say.
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02-26-2022, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Submodo
OK, on point then.
Why is the Pentagon sending aid to Ukraine?
Because when the 350M is spent, alot of people (who are already rich) "get a taste", as Tony Soprano would say.
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Funny...but there's zero commitment with the money spent. hobbying comes to mind
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02-26-2022, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Submodo
OK, on point then.
Why is the Pentagon sending aid to Ukraine?
Because when the 350M is spent, alot of people (who are already rich) "get a taste", as Tony Soprano would say.
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To try and stop Putin before he comes to believe that he can take a NATO country and NATO won't do anything about it. It will and nobody wants that. So, to lessen the possibility of Putin doing something that would take us to war, arming Ukraine is the next best thing we can do and this little adventure of Putin's could be his Waterloo and that's good for the world.
I do understand the cynicism about giving all these countries our tax dollars and that it is often a waste but this is different than giving cash to a dictator hoping it reaches the people, like giving Central American governments money in order to keep their people home. Total waste of money because the governments are corrupt. This isn't about helping corrupt Ukrainian officials.
Helping people defend themselves is a whole different ball game in my opinion.
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02-26-2022, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DesWad
I can't find the source of the news story at the moment, but it was yesterday that I read it where China condemned the U.S. for backing Ukraine up against Russia's wall. It was very Anti Biden in its talk (obviously since the libs love to stick their noses over seas).
I believe that comment was made earlier but now
https://www.politico.eu/article/china-xi-jinping-vladimir-putin-negotiate-ukraine/
China’s Xi asks Putin to negotiate with Ukraine
February 25, 2022
In a major diplomatic intervention, Chinese President Xi Jinping has asked Russian President Vladimir Putin to negotiate with Ukraine — with Beijing offering no clear endorsement of the ongoing war.
In further remarks that probably won’t go down well in the Kremlin, Xi said: “China supports Russia and Ukraine in resolving the issue through negotiation.”
As for Trump- well he said it was "genius of Putin to declare the independent states of Ukraine independent". Of course every liberal news outlet says Trump declared Putin "genius for going to war with Ukraine."
America's news outlets should be sanctioned, penalized, shut down. I've said this for years.
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Typical to mis-characterize what Trump said. I heard more than one military expert say the very same thing, that Putin's strategy, to declare those two regions independent states, was a smart thing to do. Problem is in this country right now, no dissenting opinion can be spoken without being accused of being a traitor, even if what you say is true.
As I was saying to CT, if criticizing a President is treasonous, what the hell would you call what was done to Trump? It either works for both parties or it works for neither but Democrats couldn't care less about that reasonable logic.
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02-26-2022, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by HedonistForever
Typical to mis-characterize what Trump said. I heard more than one military expert say the very same thing, that Putin's strategy, to declare those two regions independent states, was a smart thing to do. Problem is in this country right now, no dissenting opinion can be spoken without being accused of being a traitor, even if what you say is true.
As I was saying to CT, if criticizing a President is treasonous, what the hell would you call what was done to Trump? It either works for both parties or it works for neither but Democrats couldn't care less about that reasonable logic.
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Trump was flushed down the sewer...thanks to a majority of savvy voters....Democracy works...
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