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Old 07-17-2021, 11:18 AM   #16
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... if the vaccine is the "silver bullet" why are masks required after taking it.
They aren't. In Cali they are, for a brief period while the new surge is battled.

Nobody said Silver Bullet. But the efficacy of the vaccines is, as Trump would say, ''of a level no one has ever seen before''.

I am fully vaccinated for some 100 days now, but I will wear a mask for short durations, when in a crowd that contains non-vaccinated people.

Bigger question is why you dirty folks who refuse the free, easily available vaccine, continue to impede the progress the US has made against the virus, to support your right-wing Fascist views (and Trump)?
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Old 07-17-2021, 11:35 AM   #17
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Because it’s their body, their choice. Like abortion. Which kills more than COVID. If you don’t like freedom of choice, move to China.
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Old 07-17-2021, 11:36 AM   #18
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The side effects are at levels never seen before either. The difference in the chance that you’ll get seriously ill from covid when vaccinated vs non vaccinated is minuscule, and not worth it IMO. Last I checked this was a free country, although the fascist policies of current administration is doing everything they can to change that, so it’s still my body my choice.

I’m glad you take comfort in being vaccinated, and that’s your choice to make, just like others are free to make theirs.
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Old 07-17-2021, 11:48 AM   #19
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The difference in the chance that you’ll get seriously ill from covid when vaccinated vs non vaccinated is minuscule, and not worth it IMO. Last I checked this was a free country
Miniscule? Are you high?

The surge in Delta cases and hospitalizations is almost exclusively limited to the non-vaccinated!

What does Free Country have to do with it? You want the right to spread this shit to others, months after we had the ability to stomp out Covid, because, God Damn it, that is my ''right''?
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Bigger question is why you dirty folks who refuse the free, easily available vaccine, continue to impede the progress the US has made against the virus, to support your right-wing Fascist views (and Trump)?
No.

Because the "vaccine" is not a vaccine in the traditional sense. It is a form of gene therapy that triggers your body to make antibodies for the ChiCom virus. Unlike a vaccine the ChiCom shot does not stay local to the injection site... it actually affects the entire body. The Chicom shot is experimental. Hence the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) that protects the manufacturer from liability. The government is telling you it's experimental. Do you like being a guinea pig? I mean if I had stage 4 cancer I might go experimental, but for a virus with a 99.98 recovery rate? Nah. I'm just not that stupid.

Why do people like you keep insisting that others get a shot? What happened to my body my choice? (And this is truly where that sentence ACTUALLY makes sense) Aligning the govt. with private organizations to push the ChiCom shot is the VERY definition of Fascism.. not the MSNBC definition. I mean it's what ACTUAL fascists and Nazis defined their own political movement as... It's not those of us that won't get the shot that are fascists.. it's people like you who are SO ignorant of history that you call others that which you are.

Projection much?

I'll give it 3-4 years... and then once it's out of EUA, I might take it. But in 3-4 years time the truth about the shot, the release of the ChiCom virus and Democrat foreknowledge will be fully exposed along with the resulting fraudulent election. There won't be a need to take the shot then, because we will have seen the resulting deaths from the shot due to enlarged hearts, blood clots, PAH... and I will laugh at you suckers that trusted the government.

Sure, I might get COVID too, but I will risk it rather than inject a chemical that is experimental.
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Old 07-17-2021, 11:54 AM   #21
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The surge in Delta cases and hospitalizations is almost exclusively limited to the non-vaccinated!
And you are privy to this data how? Because the press is telling you? They also told you that Trump was a Russian agent that had hookers pee on him.... what happened with that? They also told you that Hunters laptop with kiddie porn was a Russian plot... that's not true either...

When will you figure out you're being played?
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Old 07-17-2021, 11:56 AM   #22
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Why do people like you keep insisting that others get a shot? What happened to my body my choice? (And this is truly where that sentence ACTUALLY makes sense) Aligning the govt. with private organizations to push the ChiCom shot is the VERY definition of Fascism..
Your Fascist President (the one who lost in November, but I'll play along, and pretend, along with you, that he won) got the vaccine fast-tracked, and your legion of right-wingers couldn't keep quiet about how that was Trump's greatest acheivement. He quietly took it himself, but was too shy to let us know, MSNBC had to tell us.

What happened? Biden took the Presidency, so now the vaccine is evil?
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Your Fascist President (the one who lost in November, but I'll play along, and pretend, along with you, that he won)
Please explain why Trump was a fascist... I mean other than because CNN said so... Exactly what fascist policies did Trump enact?

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got the vaccine fast-tracked, and your legion of right-wingers couldn't keep quiet about how that was Trump's greatest acheivement.
Of course he did... so you should be grateful to the "fascists" ;-)

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He quietly took it himself, but was too shy to let us know, MSNBC had to tell us.
How do any of us know what went into his arm? My point is that regardless of who else takes it, the decision on what gets injected into my body is mine and mine alone. Only a fascists would argue otherwise.

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What happened? Biden took the Presidency, so now the vaccine is evil?
No. I wouldn't have taken the shot had the election been legitimate either. I'm not into being a guinea pig over an illness w/ a 99.98% survival rate.

You seem to think that Trump couldn't have been "used" by the Dems and the ChiComs... I think that's exactly whaat happened.
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Old 07-17-2021, 12:11 PM   #24
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Got it. Could have been chlorophyll into Trump's arm.

Discussion breaks down quickly, when presumable facts are discarded. We reached that point here.
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Old 07-17-2021, 12:12 PM   #25
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Discussion breaks down quickly, when presumable facts are discarded. We reached that point here.
How is Trumps taking a shot in any way shape or form relevant to my taking it? Did you take it because he did?

Still waiting on you to show the "evidence" that the surge in CA is related to the unvaccinated.
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Old 07-17-2021, 12:14 PM   #26
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safe? 10,000 people have died from taking covid vaccine.

you have a 50/50 of getting sick and not sick if get the vaccine

another 50/50 if you live or die after getting sick.

another 50/50 if you live or die if effected by vaccine side effects.
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I got mine I need a third one itfake virus,but I need the microchips.
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Old 07-17-2021, 12:21 PM   #28
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[QUOTE=dilbert firestorm;1062528745]safe? 10,000 people have died from taking covid vaccine.

you have a 50/50 of getting sick and not sick if get the vaccine

another 50/50 if you live or die after getting sick.

another 50/50 if you live or die if effected by vaccine side h]

It not all 50/50 there allies a difference in numbers. Some you suppise vaccine works order times vaccine are more like to give false fearlessness and cause more sickness
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Got it. Could have been chlorophyll into Trump's arm.

Discussion breaks down quickly, when presumable facts are discarded. We reached that point here.

The 'breakdown' is on your part - CT!!!!
DPST deflection, denial, and arrogant disdain of fact based debate.

As evidenced by your own writings.
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Old 07-17-2021, 01:01 PM   #30
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Bigger question is why you dirty folks who refuse the free, easily available vaccine, continue to impede the progress the US has made against the virus, to support your right-wing Fascist views (and Trump)?
Actually, that's not a "bigger question" ... that's a political question drenched in political criticism.

As to why I have exercised my right to determine what medicines and medical treatments I authorize to be visited upon my body as the same as I have done for probably close to 60 years ... that involves a discussion of my medical/physical characteristics, which is not only not any of your business, but it's also not the government's business ... especially a government that pretends to believe that a firearm is a medical/health issue and that should be able to consider whether or not I have one or more in my home in order to assess my health/physical/mental condition. Not only is government not qualified to make that assessment ... neither are you.

Chung ... example ... personal ... several months ago I was transported to a hospital based on an erroneous assessment of my medical condition and had performed on me an exploratory, invasive procedure by a surgeon/physician from my doctor's office who concluded that the assessment was INCORRECT ... subsequent to the procedure and while I was still in the hospital a nurse or two tried to intimidate me into taking some medicine and was refusing to allow me to discuss it with my physician while lying to me that he had approved it .... which I later confirmed he had not. I signed myself out of the hospital against "doctor's orders" and after being told I would die if I didn't take the medicine. I will repeat: "several months ago." The next morning I delivered a monitoring device they forgot to remove from my chest to a nurse at the drop off doors downstairs ... she asked me how the patient was doing! She was shocked when I told her ... I'm "the patient"!

Now ... if you don't understand my point ... that's your problem. Not mine.

I didn't vote for Bitten and/or Kumola. IMO neither one is qualified to wipe their own asses.

And if you think I'm going to take an emergency approved medicine they have already trashed numerous times ... well ... I suspect you DID vote for them. As for me ... for a year and a half ...AT LEAST 4-5 times a week .. I go shopping, person errand running, social interacting, working in offices, going to malls, buying house and appliance repair equipment and materials, eating out and/or picking up take out.... blah, blah, blah ... including riding on public transportation occasionally ... in short what ever I need to do to live my life and have some occasionally enjoyment I do. At the same time I am gainfully working as often and as long as is appropriate to complete the tasks for which I have assumed responsibility.

I suspect that the vast majority of the worshippers of everything Bitten&Kumola are dependent on handouts or an existing retirement asset and sheepishly tag along in compliance to whatever they say (as opposed to what they do) irrespective of how many times they change it during their lameass existence sucking up on the taxpayers' money pretending to be "for America" while trashing it at the same time!

Facism ... ? Does the above sound like I live under a Facists' society? You're the one sucking hind tit! Not me! You voted for those pukes.
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