Lindsey Graham: Biden made the Republicans look like Fucking Idiots

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Safer for whom?

dominion and soros.

bahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahah a

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Making elections safer equals suppression?

The Demented One for whom he voted said so! So he parrots it.

If DeadPeople and NonCitizens can't vote he considers it "voter suppression" particularly when legal voters are only allowed to vote once per candidate!

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by GastonGlock

Let them keep setting the precedent that this sort of behavior is acceptable. When they fuck up 2022 and 2024, they'll get absolutely steamrolled and we'll undo all their shit with the same disregard that they did to us.

Replace ''us'' as Democrats, and change the years to 2018 and 2020, and your narrative works. You sort of forgot how Trump, and Congressional Republicans during Obama's terms, pulled the same power grab moves. Trump's tax cut got zero Democrats.. Remember? How about Merrick Garland blocked for SC consideration?

Goose meet Gander.

[Jacuzzme]

And the dems were dead wrong to be against it as personal incomes jumped and the economy was on fire.

[Tiny]

Yesterday Biden walked back his promise to Progressives that their "wish list" reconciliation bill had to pass or he'd veto the infrastructure bill. However, Pelosi hasn't changed her position. She's insisting that the Senate pass both the infrastructure and reconciliation bills before the House will take up either. So nothing has really changed. Elizabeth Warren, a bellwether for progressives, is saying she won't vote for an infrastructure bill unless it's assured there will be substantial expenditures for child care, green energy, etc., and higher taxes on people who make a lot of money.

Manchin was on This Week on ABC this morning. Bernie Sanders, who chairs the Senate Budget Committee, wants a 6 trillion reconciliation bill. Manchin said we could only afford 1 or 1.5 trillion. Hopefully he'll get his way. But he's part of a minority among the 50 Democratic Senators and Kamala Harris, who will be making that decision.

Manchin also said he "only" wants to raise the federal corporate tax rate to 25% and long term capital gains rate to 28%. This is good in that Biden's higher preferred rates would make the headline rates, including state income tax, on corporate taxes and on capital gains + dividends the highest in the developed world. But if we go to where Manchin says he wants ago we'd still have higher maximum rates than the majority of other countries.

[GaGambler]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Yesterday Biden walked back his promise to Progressives that their "wish list" reconciliation bill had to pass or he'd veto the infrastructure bill. However, Pelosi hasn't changed her position. She's insisting that the Senate pass both the infrastructure and reconciliation bills before the House will take up either. So nothing has really changed. Elizabeth Warren, a bellwether for progressives, is saying she won't vote for an infrastructure bill unless it's assured there will be substantial expenditures for child care, green energy, etc., and higher taxes on people who make a lot of money.

Manchin was on This Week on ABC this morning. Bernie Sanders, who chairs the Senate Budget Committee, wants a 6 trillion reconciliation bill. Manchin said we could only afford 1 or 1.5 trillion. Hopefully he'll get his way. But he's part of a minority among the 50 Democratic Senators and Kamala Harris, who will be making that decision.

Manchin also said he "only" wants to raise the federal corporate tax rate to 25% and long term capital gains rate to 28%. This is good in that Biden's higher preferred rates would make the headline rates, including state income tax, on corporate taxes and on capital gains + dividends the highest in the developed world. But if we go to where Manchin says he wants ago we'd still have higher maximum rates than the majority of other countries.

Just remember as long as none of the Republicans sign on to that atrocity of a bill, Manchin can be a "minority of ONE" and still stop the bill. 49-51 is still a LOSS for tax and spend Dims.

Personally I could live with a Corporate tax of 25%, but NOT a Cap Gains tax of 28%, We need to roll back the Obama Care tax and get Cap Gains back DOWN to 20% not increase it to 28%

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by GaGambler

Just remember as long as none of the Republicans sign on to that atrocity of a bill, Manchin can be a "minority of ONE" and still stop the bill. 49-51 is still a LOSS for tax and spend Dims.

Personally I could live with a Corporate tax of 25%, but NOT a Cap Gains tax of 28%, We need to roll back the Obama Care tax and get Cap Gains back DOWN to 20% not increase it to 28%

I agree with that. Under the Gambler plan, as an owner of a C corporation you’d be paying a tax of 28% on income that stays in the business, and another 20% on anything you pull out in dividends or on the capital gain if you sell out. That’s more than enough.

Btw,I was wrong. Manchin actually appeared to be saying he was comfortable with something in the range of $1 trillion to $2 trillion for the reconciliation bill, on top of the $1 trillion or so for infrastructure. That’s too much spending IMHO, but much lower than the $8 trillion I think that Sanders wants to spend.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Yesterday Biden walked back his promise to Progressives that their "wish list" reconciliation bill had to pass or he'd veto the infrastructure bill. However, Pelosi hasn't changed her position. She's insisting that the Senate pass both the infrastructure and reconciliation bills before the House will take up either. So nothing has really changed. Elizabeth Warren, a bellwether for progressives, is saying she won't vote for an infrastructure bill unless it's assured there will be substantial expenditures for child care, green energy, etc., and higher taxes on people who make a lot of money.

That's a polite way of saying that his aides said to him "you senile old bastard, you can't say that"! So he had to say "I didn't mean to imply I would veto it if it came by itself"! Of course you didn't Joe, of course you didn't. Now Pelosi will look like a fool when Joe has to sign the bill by itself or there will be no infrastructure bill.


I could have sworn that LM said this was a done deal and a big win for Joe! I guess if you have a bunch of people from both parties yelling at you is a big win.

[dilbert firestorm]

l00ks like Joe forgot he wasn't in a Dem pow-wow meeting.

bait n' switch plan was in the offing.

his dimentia is tripping him up. sure... he didn't mean to say that. riiight!

get them to sign off the bill, get the rest via reconciliation. their plan, go big or go home!

[matchingmole]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

watching the trumptard party sheet all over is funny. 2024 will be a blood bath

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

watching the dim party sheet all over is funny. 2022 will be a blood bath

uh this is what I posted.