Donald, what was the point ?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

From https://thecitizen.com/2020/11/15/ge...00-vote-surge/

Due to my age I had the opportunity, which I rejected, of requesting and mailing in my ballot. IF I had mailed in my ballot, it would be received and checked in the following way:

To verify the signature, county election officials will look at the signature with the ballot and compare it to the signature on the voter's mail-in registration form, or any signature the voter made within the past six years on file with the county clerk or voter registrar.

To ensure the county is doing the best job analyzing the signatures, Debeauvoir said they have two people look at each signature comparison. If the two people agree, it is counted. If they disagree, a third person gets called in, the judge for the ballot, who makes the final decision.

The review board is appropriately split between 40 to 50 Democrats, Republicans, Greens and Libertarians in order to have a multi-party review, Debeauvoir said.

However, she said inconsistent signatures do not happen often. Instead, issues typically arise when voters forget to sign their ballot altogether.


https://www.kvue.com/article/news/po...9-400a1af70321

That is a process that seems rather thorough. I can only go by studies that have been done on mail-in voting as to whether or not it is open to major fraud. The answer seems to be no. I would bet that every state has a similar process.

But the rate of voting fraud overall in the US is less than 0.0009%, according to a 2017 study by the Brennan Center for Justice.

And Federal Election Commission head Ellen Weintraub has said: "There's simply no basis for the conspiracy theory that voting by mail causes fraud."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53353404

Voting by mail is not new in the United States -- nearly 1 in 4 voters cast 2016 presidential ballots that way. Routine methods and the decentralized nature of U.S. elections make it very hard to interfere with mailed ballots, experts say.

While mail balloting has its drawbacks, it can help minimize the long lines, faulty voting machines and COVID-19-induced staffing shortages that have plagued some elections this year.

The conservative Heritage Foundation, which has warned of the risks of mail voting, found 14 cases of attempted mail fraud out of roughly 15.5 million ballots cast in Oregon since that state started conducting elections by mail in 1998.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN2482SA

And this is from an article published on September 22, 2020.

Last June, the Transition Integrity Project, a group of academics, journalists, experts and former public servants, conducted several simulations. Their conclusion was that only a landslide for Joe Biden would result in a relatively orderly transfer of power. All other scenarios involved a major political crisis and potentially street violence. So while Trump points at mail-in ballots as a potential source of fraud, Biden and Democratic officials at the national, state and county levels are doing everything they can to ensure that every mailed ballot counts.

https://theconversation.com/fact-che...e-fraud-146230

I find that to be rather prophetic. The hardcore Trump supporters will never conclude that Biden won a fair election. It will always be stolen.

[1blackman1]

What happened in the runoff? Was that somehow stolen too? Looks like Trump lost and similarly for the same reason the two Republicans lost. No steal. Just outvoted.

[Tsmokies]

Maybe if trmpy called Georgia 4 or 5 times and demand that they commit fraud and make him a winner...yeah right.

The ignorant racist clueless redneck supporters just need to send trumpy 4 or 5 million more dollars and then bend over and kiss their stupid white ass.

I'm still cracking myself up on occasion even though the killer president is still around

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Tsmokies

H I M keeps needing his itty bitty insecure ego stroked. He has admitted that he lost a fair election and that Biden is President. Maybe someday his ignorant racist clueless redneck supporters will get a clue. Aka white trash since trumpy was pissed because all of his rioters were white trash according to trumpy

Real Americans are glad America is smart again

Biden isn't smart and either are the people that voted for him. Biden is a phony piece of shit and he doesn't like smart people. Smart people figure him out too quick like Donald Trump did.

[Tsmokies]

Like me...92 million people didn't necessarily vote for Biden. Butt about 102ish million people voted against trumpy. All the votes were not counted in the corrupt states that trumpy won. They pushed Biden votes under the tables and hauled them off in big trucks with big tires that cruzy was driving

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Tsmokies

Like me...92 million people didn't necessarily vote for Biden. Butt about 102ish million people voted against trumpy. All the votes were not counted in the corrupt states that trumpy won. They pushed Biden votes under the tables and hauled them off in big trucks with big tires that cruzy was driving

You support Biden that's like voting for him. I didn't vote for him and I don't support him because he's a fucking idiot. Trump may have his faults maybe he's a bit rude and doesn't always say the right things but at least his heart is in the right place. Biden will never fight for the American people as hard as Trump did. You'll see.

[Gotyour6]

He is leaving office.
What are you going to bitch about when Biden gives all your money to the poor.

Hookers will make more than you and most are on welfare

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Gotyour6

He is leaving office.
What are you going to bitch about when Biden gives all your money to the poor.

Hookers will make more than you and most are on welfare

Is that your prediction?

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I don't know if it's a good idea to pursue a Trump impeachment. The only positive would be Trump could not run again for POTUS. And I don't think that this is necessarily a bad thing for Republicans. Many Democrats such as myself would never vote for Trump. I would however vote for a Republican candidate as I did every 4 years from 1968 - 2004.

I think you are wrong. Impeaching Trump will not insure he doesn't run. That would take a conviction and that would take 17 Republican Senators voting to convict. I can see maybe a half dozen but 17? Not a chance. That's why Pelosi wanted the 25th amendment insuring Trump couldn't run again. And it isn't clear whether they even have the Constitutional grounds to invoke the 25 th even if Pence would go along and he won't. All the Constitutional scholars I have heard speak on the matter say a President must be incapacitated, unable to do his job meaning he is literally unconscious. A President that won't do what you want him to do, is not grounds for evoking the 25th amendment.



It was mentioned tonight that if it was so important to impeach and convict Trump, the House would have to hold a vote Wed. and Pelosi would immediately have to send the articles to the Senate which won't even be in session till the 19 and McConnell will still be in charge and will not allow a trial with one day to go. But if Democrats were hell bent on a trial in the Senate, it would eat up Biden's time trying to get much needed cabinet Secy's. confirmed and throw the country into complete turmoil.



Of course Nancy could hold on to the articles of impeachment like she did last time that she wasn't in any hurry and wait till late spring after Biden's first 100 days and then Schumer could start a trial. What a farce that would be.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

What happened in the runoff? Was that somehow stolen too? Looks like Trump lost and similarly for the same reason the two Republicans lost. No steal. Just outvoted.

With the help of the fat abram sisters changing rules. Yes the libs stole the Georgia run-offs as well! Are you surprised? The same people were there for the Presidential steal!

[1blackman1]

Republicans getting stolen from means they are truly the dumbest of the dumb. Why would you be proud to be part of that group. That doesn’t seem that smart overall.

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

I think you are wrong. Impeaching Trump will not insure he doesn't run. That would take a conviction and that would take 17 Republican Senators voting to convict. I can see maybe a half dozen but 17? Not a chance. That's why Pelosi wanted the 25th amendment insuring Trump couldn't run again. And it isn't clear whether they even have the Constitutional grounds to invoke the 25 th even if Pence would go along and he won't. All the Constitutional scholars I have heard speak on the matter say a President must be incapacitated, unable to do his job meaning he is literally unconscious. A President that won't do what you want him to do, is not grounds for evoking the 25th amendment.

It was mentioned tonight that if it was so important to impeach and convict Trump, the House would have to hold a vote Wed. and Pelosi would immediately have to send the articles to the Senate which won't even be in session till the 19 and McConnell will still be in charge and will not allow a trial with one day to go. But if Democrats were hell bent on a trial in the Senate, it would eat up Biden's time trying to get much needed cabinet Secy's. confirmed and throw the country into complete turmoil.



Of course Nancy could hold on to the articles of impeachment like she did last time that she wasn't in any hurry and wait till late spring after Biden's first 100 days and then Schumer could start a trial. What a farce that would be.

They are also looking at the options from the 14th amendment preventing members of the insurrection or rebellion to run for office. They’ll need to do what was done after the civil war. I’ve not read up on it but I suspect that might be an intereting legal approach. I didn’t fever recall it being in there until mentioned yesterday.

[pfunkdenver]

Wow! This thread has a lot of whining from right-wing snowflakes! Poor babies!

Bwahahahahahaha!!!

[1blackman1]

Better be careful. They report people. Lol

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

I think you are wrong. Impeaching Trump will not insure he doesn't run. That would take a conviction and that would take 17 Republican Senators voting to convict. I can see maybe a half dozen but 17? Not a chance. That's why Pelosi wanted the 25th amendment insuring Trump couldn't run again. And it isn't clear whether they even have the Constitutional grounds to invoke the 25 th even if Pence would go along and he won't. All the Constitutional scholars I have heard speak on the matter say a President must be incapacitated, unable to do his job meaning he is literally unconscious. A President that won't do what you want him to do, is not grounds for evoking the 25th amendment.

It was mentioned tonight that if it was so important to impeach and convict Trump, the House would have to hold a vote Wed. and Pelosi would immediately have to send the articles to the Senate which won't even be in session till the 19 and McConnell will still be in charge and will not allow a trial with one day to go. But if Democrats were hell bent on a trial in the Senate, it would eat up Biden's time trying to get much needed cabinet Secy's. confirmed and throw the country into complete turmoil.

Of course Nancy could hold on to the articles of impeachment like she did last time that she wasn't in any hurry and wait till late spring after Biden's first 100 days and then Schumer could start a trial. What a farce that would be.

You are correct. I should have been more explicit. Impeachment would not stop Trump from running again. Conviction would and I agree the odds of that are rather low.

I really don't care if Pelosi does bring forward articles of impeachment. As I said, it might be more beneficial to the Republican party if Trump is not able to run again in 2024 since he is so divisive even within his own party.