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Old 12-14-2020, 10:54 AM   #16
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Old 12-14-2020, 10:54 AM   #17
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Old 12-14-2020, 10:56 AM   #18
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Cancel Student debt !

A good first step.

Followed by Single Payor Federal Health Insurance for all.

Then Free Childcare.

Then Free College Tuition.

That should get some Trickle Up going on as opposed to Republican trickle down bullshit.

Then proceed to ;

1.Outlaw chokeholds
2.Do away with extended immunity for LE
3.Create a Federal LE Oversight Agency to track and discipline deaths and excessive use of force by LE.

That should do for a start !!
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Old 12-14-2020, 11:13 AM   #19
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I'd go along with limited immunity for congressional butts like Schiff well before any dumb thing for police
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Old 12-14-2020, 12:00 PM   #20
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the answer is not found in creating a cycle of government loans, huge college fees and bills supporting ever greater salaries and benefits, followed by ever greater debt forgiveness by that same government
the cycle needs to be broken, not made worse
How come people don't ever discuss the other side of this issue. How much responsibility do the Banks (lenders) and the Government (regulators) have for this mess.

Traditionally lenders took on considerable risk when lending money and they buffered their risk by charging interest rates equivalent to that risk.

When the government got in the business of guaranteeing mortgage loans and student loans they incentivized the lending industry to loan money out to just about anyone for any reason. A situation that Big Banks look upon favorably.

It just got worse when bankruptcy laws were changed to limit the ability for people to start over after any kind of disaster.
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Old 12-14-2020, 01:01 PM   #21
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Cancel Student debt !

A good first step.

Followed by Single Payor Federal Health Insurance for all.

Then Free Childcare.

Then Free College Tuition.

That should get some Trickle Up going on as opposed to Republican trickle down bullshit.

Then proceed to ;

1.Outlaw chokeholds
2.Do away with extended immunity for LE
3.Create a Federal LE Oversight Agency to track and discipline deaths and excessive use of force by LE.

That should do for a start !!
Thats page 2 outta the socialist playbook.
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Old 12-14-2020, 06:31 PM   #22
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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”
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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the people discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the canidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy--to be followed by a dictatorship.”
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“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy...”
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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
― Alexander Fraser Tytler




Thank you for your unreasoning Hatred of Trump and all things that make America a great nation - socialist DPST's.

and - Merry Christmas to you and your atheist, islamophilic Marxist and racist DPST narrative!!!
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Old 12-14-2020, 07:27 PM   #23
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Cancel Student debt !

A good first step.

Followed by Single Payor Federal Health Insurance for all.

Then Free Childcare.

Then Free College Tuition.

That should get some Trickle Up going on as opposed to Republican trickle down bullshit.

Then proceed to ;

1.Outlaw chokeholds
2.Do away with extended immunity for LE
3.Create a Federal LE Oversight Agency to track and discipline deaths and excessive use of force by LE.

That should do for a start !!
Love the sarcasm!
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Old 12-15-2020, 12:09 PM   #24
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No sarcasm !!

Totally serious !!

Bring us into a Civilized level.

Bring us up more to the civilized world standard.
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Old 12-15-2020, 12:13 PM   #25
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No sarcasm !!

Totally serious !!

Bring us into a Civilized level.

Bring us up more to the civilized world standard.
Civilized?

By not paying what you owe
Not being responsible
They agreed to a contract and should honor that
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Old 12-15-2020, 03:56 PM   #26
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Honor ( or honorable, ethical conduct) and DPST are mutually exclusiv3e!
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Old 12-15-2020, 04:07 PM   #27
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What if a soldier decided that they didn't want to honor their contract with the military? If a student can walk away, shouldn't a soldier be allowed to walk away?
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Old 12-15-2020, 04:32 PM   #28
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It’s RATIONALE.

Looks like someone shouldn’t have ditched class!

HAHhahahaahhsh
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:25 PM   #29
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What if a soldier decided that they didn't want to honor their contract with the military? If a student can walk away, shouldn't a soldier be allowed to walk away?
That's funny. Maybe debt should only be forgiven to those who graduated LOL. There's a lot of people with student debt who didn't even graduate LOL.

That's funny.
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:49 PM   #30
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Only 27% of college grads use their degree to get a job. The Federal Government backs 80% of the loans meaning they pay off the loans of 1.5 trillion dollars and the money goes to Universities and Colleges who are one of the largest contributors to the Democratic party.
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