The leading cause of death in the United States last week was cardiac arrest

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by Tiny

That was sarcasm eccieuser, directed at no one in particular.

There's a belief out there that most people who died of Covid actually died from something else, like obesity, hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular diesease, or, most significantly, old age. The Covid just accelerated the process a little. Also deaths that are called Covid are really pneumonia. So I was just taking that reasoning one small step further, and saying they all died of cardiac arrest.

Admittedly, you're not going to see as many years of life lost because of Covid, which mostly kills older people, as something like the Spanish flu. Still there are a lot of years lost to the disease. I read recently some researchers were estimating Covid would knock close to year off of the average life expectancy of males alive in Sweden today.

Another fallacy, some believe Covid is no worse than the flu, and that only maybe 10,000 or 20,000 people have died from it. The hospitals have been calling deaths from other causes Covid-related to make more money. I don't understand this reasoning at all. If you compare the total number of deaths in the USA this year to past years, it's obvious that a lot of people have died because of Covid, and the estimates we're reading for Covid deaths aren't terribly far off.

I'm trying to watch football! I'll check back later. But you and dilby will be my primary focus when I return.

I liked the idea of sarcasm. First sentence. That lack of comic cuity again, though.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

I'm trying to watch football! I'll check back later. But you and dilby will be my primary focus when I return.

I liked the idea of sarcasm. First sentence. That lack of comic cuity again, though.

True. But I'm good at technical writing.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Tiny

There's a belief out there that most people who died of Covid actually died from something else, like obesity, hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular diesease, or, most significantly, old age. The Covid just accelerated the process a little. Also deaths that are called Covid are really pneumonia.

I suspect you later modified your conclusions (or speculation). From a "medical-scientific" perspective one also DOES NOT die of "obesity, hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular diesease (sic), or, old age" any more than they "die" of Covid-19.

Those conditions cause the failure of a vital organ (or organs) that are necessary for the human body to continue functioning. Like the heart or brain. Sugar and elevated blood pressure destroys the kidneys, which "cleanse" the blood supply of lethal impurities. Etc.

The current affairs (over the past 10 months of 2020) have created an "agenda" and/or "narrative" that lends itself to making Covid-19 a "killer" and Trump the creator of the lethal condition that resulted in all of those deaths. It became not only politically advantage to hang that around Trump's neck, but financially beneficial to assign Covid-19 as a "cause" of hospitalization and death by the health care facilities which improved their fiscal wellbeing. At the same time the destruction of the U.S. economy by shutting down businesses and supporting services and activities also benefitted those who were unable to remove Trump from office beginning the day after he was elected until this past January.

If you don't believe me, watch Bitten-Kumola-Obaminable take credit for "curing" all those "infected" U.S. residents and ending the "pandemic" with their "unequaled leadership"! (It will be "ok" to take the vaccine!!)

After all ... those three amateurs had all the world's problems solved when Trump took office ... right?

[Lapdog]

Trump goddam sure didn't solve a fucking thing. He only made new problems...RIGHT?

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Strokey_McDingDong

It's been a whole year of this shit.

At least since freddy got banned. That's for sure!

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

I suspect you later modified your conclusions (or speculation). From a "medical-scientific" perspective one also DOES NOT die of "obesity, hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular diesease (sic), or, old age" any more than they "die" of Covid-19.

Those conditions cause the failure of a vital organ (or organs) that are necessary for the human body to continue functioning. Like the heart or brain. Sugar and elevated blood pressure destroys the kidneys, which "cleanse" the blood supply of lethal impurities. Etc.

The current affairs (over the past 10 months of 2020) have created an "agenda" and/or "narrative" that lends itself to making Covid-19 a "killer" and Trump the creator of the lethal condition that resulted in all of those deaths. It became not only politically advantage to hang that around Trump's neck, but financially beneficial to assign Covid-19 as a "cause" of hospitalization and death by the health care facilities which improved their fiscal wellbeing. At the same time the destruction of the U.S. economy by shutting down businesses and supporting services and activities also benefitted those who were unable to remove Trump from office beginning the day after he was elected until this past January.

If you don't believe me, watch Bitten-Kumola-Obaminable take credit for "curing" all those "infected" U.S. residents and ending the "pandemic" with their "unequaled leadership"! (It will be "ok" to take the vaccine!!)

After all ... those three amateurs had all the world's problems solved when Trump took office ... right?

Here we go. Thank you LLiarman. Your snarkasm is noted, along with your triggered bitterness.

COVID won. Trump lost. We now have to clean up this fucking mess and try and live through it.

Apparently you find the whole tragic affair an inconvenience. Just like Trump.

Tough shit. It is what it is, to quote your Scheissfuhrer.

Your rage whining and loss lying isn't going to get you a seat at the counter at Naus!



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

The current affairs (over the past 10 months of 2020) have created an "agenda" and/or "narrative" that lends itself to making Covid-19 a "killer" and Trump the creator of the lethal condition that resulted in all of those deaths. It became not only politically advantage to hang that around Trump's neck, but financially beneficial to assign Covid-19 as a "cause" of hospitalization and death by the health care facilities which improved their fiscal wellbeing. At the same time the destruction of the U.S. economy by shutting down businesses and supporting services and activities also benefitted those who were unable to remove Trump from office beginning the day after he was elected until this past January.

If you don't believe me, watch Bitten-Kumola-Obaminable take credit for "curing" all those "infected" U.S. residents and ending the "pandemic" with their "unequaled leadership"! (It will be "ok" to take the vaccine!!)

After all ... those three amateurs had all the world's problems solved when Trump took office ... right?

They will undeservedly take a good part of the credit for Operation Warp Speed. And since the vaccines are what's going to end this epidemic, yes, overall, Biden will get the credit. That's one thing that Trump & Team did right. I don't think a Hillary Clinton Administration would have pushed a vaccine through the FDA bureaucracy so quickly and worked as well with the private sector.

If the Trump Administration had brought the same foresight and energy to PPE and Covid tests as it did to vaccines, Trump wouldn't be a one term president.

[Jam3768]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Thank you, 9500/yr/hh/mm/multiple handles - for your single minded hatred of all things not Socialist totalitarian.



And Thank You 9500/ ,mm/ yr/hh/other multiple handles and DPST's - for your usual nonsense!
you prove your Hatred of Trump and sensible governance over and over and over - as above !!!

The election is Over - and Trump still lives in your brains - along with XiNN and the radical marxist LSM narrative - 24/7/365.

It is called - in medical terms - the Trump mental parasite.
Evidently there is no cure and no chance for any remission of the parasite DPST's have - until You DPST's give up your Hatred!
Which ain't ever gonna happen

Even knowing that DPST Trump Hatred is self-destructive - DPST's!!!!


See - Your own hatred creates your own Trump fixation.
such a sad way of Life!

Ankle biter. My hero. How the hell are you. Haven't seen you in a long time. It's been really nice.

It's also really nice to see you are still as totally fucking clueless as always.

It is extremely comforting to know that some things never change

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by Tiny

True. But I'm good at technical writing.

Just waking.

I was thinking that as I read the previous post. Very nice and easy to parse. Before I got to this page of the thread.

Lex Luther was a decent read, but the complaining gets in his way of the technicalities of writing. As I've stated, I'm no pro - self taught writer, so when I complain I try to be sound in my expression. Sometimes silly, sometimes serious.



Dilby will be my next post. Then I will reread this stellar thread.

[sportfisherman]

Covid is far and away the Primary cause in most all these cases.

There are very Few cases where the Primary was something else,like diabetes,hypertension,etc.,and Covid had a backseat or Secondary role.

That is why the Covid thing is hung around Trump's neck rightfully so.

It is for his Response (or lack of response) to Covid.Like Tiny said,he maybe did good on Warp Speed,but failed miserably on PPE and Testing.

One of Trump's biggest failures that doesn't get attributed to him strong enough is that "He lied blatantly early on as to the potential severity of the Virus".This was a Horrible lack of presidential Responsibility.

Cardiac Arrest should not be used on Death Certificates.It is not needed to be listed.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by sportfisherman

Covid is far and away the Primary cause in most all these cases.

#1: How would you know?
#2: You don't know.
#3: It is safe to presume no one on the hospital staff is qualified to make that call and provide that information on a death certificate and/or a government report for funding assistance.

#3 is one reason the early dead in NYC were stacked in refrigerator trailers like cordwood ... of course the primary reason was to hide the physical evidence of the Governor's and Mayor's (Dumbocrats) utter incompetence and lying.

At one time there were 2-3 medical examiners in the Houston area who would cite suicide as the "cause" of death irrespective of how many bullet wounds were discovered in their bodies and/or how many slugs were recovered. 50 or so years ago a ag inspector was shot in the back a couple of times with a .22 rifle while performing an inspection/investigation... his death was booked as a suicide.

It was politically and financially advantageous to report as many deaths as possible as being "caused" by COVID-19. CF: 2020 Presidential Election!

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

... the complaining gets in his way of the technicalities of writing.

Anyone who pretends to be a "writing critic" on a hooker board blog really has begun their "career" on the low rung of the "critic" ladder that is characterized primarily by the I-Don't-Give-A-Fuck crowd of writers ... and who also lack the substantive knowledge to remark about the knowledge and understanding imparted.

In short: Get a Life!

And if that is "complaining" by your definition... check the mirror!

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Tiny

If the Trump Administration had brought the same foresight and energy to PPE and Covid tests as it did to vaccines, Trump wouldn't be a one term president.

You must be basing your assessment on the reports from CNN et al.

If you would carefully review December 2019 and Early January 2020 pharma-medical-scientific publications and particularly notices of "symposiums" you will discover that the knowledge base was present, being discussed, and FUNDED .... and put that reality against the back drop of the criticism of Trump's actions in mid-late January 2020. Remember: "No big deal" and "racism" to restrict travel.

Those same fuckers don't want you to go to church today!

Hindsight is always 20-20 ... although not so much in politics.

Don't forget, please, the Bitten-Kumola-Obaminable TEAM have taken credit for the roaring economy of December 2016 through January 2020 ... and they will take credit for the "recovery" of December 2020 through .....?

Quit blaming Trump ... the so-called "election" was last month.

[sportfisherman]

Discredit masks,distancing,testing.

Additionally attack and discredit the number of cases,hospitalizations,and deaths.

Looks like you got all your little Trump bases covered.

You such a good little Trumpy !!

For someone who fronts as to having "Substantive Knowledge" ;

They teach you in medical school,I believe in freshman year,not to use "Cardiac Arrest" on death certificates.

[sportfisherman]

We watch all the News ; CNN,MSNBC,FOX.

We don't want to miss out on any new Medicare commercials.

Alot of them have old Joe Namath in them.