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Old 11-17-2020, 08:38 AM   #16
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Well I've never seen any evidence the masks being used are effective, especially since most people don't remove properly. Cases keep going up, and more people wear masks. Studies on masks and virus before March of this year show no benefit as the virus is smaller than the mask are designed to stop. All the studies that say they are effective are claiming spread by droplets. But it sure appears that it is spreading more than just on droplets.
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I am sorry you feel/think this way. I am with hobbyistinomaha for 2 reasons: Have family working in the Medical field who come home and tell stories of patients in ICU that they have to comfort because once the suffering starts, no one wants to be in close proximity & I have been going to work everyday (IT field) using a mask on myself properly AND maintaining the 6ft distance (occasionally, it is ONLY a mask since distancing is NOT possible, but, never more than 5 mins max).
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Old 11-17-2020, 10:58 AM   #17
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If you would take vitamin D instead of a wearing a mask you would probably be better off.
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:59 PM   #18
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If you would take vitamin D instead of a wearing a mask you would probably be better off.
Hehe.. already on it for the past few years
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Old 11-17-2020, 01:05 PM   #19
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Farmstud, where did you get your degree in epidemiology? Trump University?
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Old 11-17-2020, 01:24 PM   #20
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Thanks but I am going to believe real doctors. Not some asshole on ECCIE
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Old 11-17-2020, 03:41 PM   #21
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Just shoot up with bleach. Just stick an ultra violet light down your gullet. It’s okay, it’s going to go away as soon as it gets hot outside. Any day now it’s just going to disappear.
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Old 11-17-2020, 04:01 PM   #22
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Well I've never seen any evidence the masks being used are effective, especially since most people don't remove properly. Cases keep going up, and more people wear masks. Studies on masks and virus before March of this year show no benefit as the virus is smaller than the mask are designed to stop. All the studies that say they are effective are claiming spread by droplets. But it sure appears that it is spreading more than just on droplets.
I’ve never seen any evidence of a lot of things that are true.

I wear a mask for a a simple reason. I must go a lot of places for my job, even in this environment. It’s true we don’t know for sure how many ways this shit is spread. I could get it and not know it for 14 days just walking through a parking lot as far as we know. I can still be spreading it without knowing I have it. So by wearing a mask the chances of me spreading go down. Even if that is only 10% less that is good enough to keep one out ten people I encounter from getting it. I believe it is much more effective than that. I wear it to do what I can to stop the spread while still earning a living.

What if someone you cared about caught this, suffered greatly, got put on a ventilator and you had to watch on a video feed as they died gasping for their last breath of life, and tracing and testing lead back to you being the one they caught it from? God forbid that happens to you.

Wearing a mask may not be 100% effecting, but short of never leaving the house, it is the least I can do for the ones I love and the ones I don’t know.

Very few of us are in a position to get tested daily, or get flown by helicopter across the street to the best medical center in the world if we get this. I choose to do what I can. I choose to believe the vast majority of medical professionals and not those trying to appease a certain voting group. It’s not a political thing.

If you don’t agree I hope I never have to be in the same places you have been.
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Old 11-20-2020, 02:08 AM   #23
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Thanks but I am going to believe real doctors. Not some asshole on ECCIE

So every mask study out there before March says that masks won't stop the virus. A study from Denmark and Japan I believe said that masks might stop 50% of the virus, maybe 70% if both people wear a mask.While masks might be of some benefit in short term situations, the way people are using them and they " experts " are promoting them is a recipe for disaster. Just look at the numbers dramatically increasing even though mask use is increasing.


I've sat through pesticide training classes and how to take off PPE to avoid contamination. I will guarantee that 90% of the people using masks and taking them off are causing their own contamination.


Youtube Dr Lee Merritt and see what she thinks of the mask mandates.


I have no confidence in the masks being of much benefit, the evidence is in plain site.
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Old 11-20-2020, 02:46 AM   #24
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Just shoot up with bleach. Just stick an ultra violet light down your gullet. It’s okay, it’s going to go away as soon as it gets hot outside. Any day now it’s just going to disappear.

I found a link to the Danish study that basically says masks are worthless.


https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...d-of-covid-19-


Hope the link comes through right
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Old 11-20-2020, 08:09 AM   #25
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I can show you just has many that says they help. It’s one of those things where we will never know exactly if or how much masks help, but we sure as hell will know if we do nothing. Too many People are doing nothing, including gov numbnuts, and things are getting out of hand. Choose to err on the side of more caution.

We have to agree to disagree
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Old 11-20-2020, 09:07 AM   #26
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Youtube Dr Lee Merritt and see what she thinks of the mask mandates.
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I get all my medical advice from YouTube and guys on escort review sites. Thanks
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Old 11-20-2020, 10:10 AM   #27
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I don't need to, the media reminds us daily. Trump didn't want to politicize it but was forced into it by the left. The result is that Both parties politicized this. The stats I referenced are true and factual.
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Old 11-20-2020, 10:43 AM   #28
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Think of all the time I wasted in school (20+ years), not to mention the money spent. I could have simply watched several you-tube videos, skimmed a few news reports which misunderstand/misreport technical journals, and become an expert.
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:21 AM   #29
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Lee Merritt has become the holy grail for those that don’t want to wear a mask. Honestly had anybody heard of her or had a history with her before she came out against masks. I will stick with the advice of UNMC and CHI. Another somewhat local, KU Med, recently had yet another study showing masks slow the spread.

I am sure to the medical professionals everyday feels like ground hog day to tell me masks slow the spread.
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:25 AM   #30
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I can show you just has many that says they help. It’s one of those things where we will never know exactly if or how much masks help, but we sure as hell will know if we do nothing. Too many People are doing nothing, including gov numbnuts, and things are getting out of hand. Choose to err on the side of more caution.

We have to agree to disagree

actually if you read the study I linked to, it shows how all the studies you reference aren't that accurate.
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