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Fast Gunn · 08-15-2011, 07:58 PM

Wow!

That is one angry black man!

Normally, very angry people do not make much sense, but you have to admit that this angry black man has serious justification for his anger and he expresses it well.

This country should be ashamed of the financial mess that we are in.

90 · 08-15-2011, 09:09 PM

Thanks, that chart proves my point again. Forget the WWII era, start with eisenhower, we taxed the rich to get the debt under control...both republicans and democrats did! The debt began to creep up again under reagan, that's when tax rates for the rich started going down. Now remember students, that chart shows the percent of debt as part of GDP. Which means we were/are not taking in enough and/or spending too much....the top 400 Americans have the same amount of wealth as the bottom 150 million. No, that is not an errror! How many consumer products can 400 people buy? If 70% of our economy is consumer spending then working class stiffs must have money. In 1989 I was making $8.25hr that's what folks make now. Let's tax the rich, to improve roads, power grids, sewage systems, other infrastructure...crazy thing is, that would create jobs. Then let's change the vice laws to save money on the 2 million (30K per years per person)in the criminal justice system, tax the vice, and help working class folks send their children to college. God knows some of you could use a bit more education. How else are we going to compete with 3 billion asians in countries that will produce way more smart people over the next 50 years. The chinese have already learned how to spy on us, hack our computers and we still can't figure out how they're doing it (they already have all our nuclear technology and the sleath fighter). We have the money to fix our problems...but do we have enough sense? That's it for me on this topic, at least consider an Independent view and do vote by what you think is best for this country rather than voting against gays, hispanics, the poor and blacks (until the civil rights era {1960's}, working class whites in the south voted democratic, it was race that changed their motivation and the republicans have played that group ever since)!

oilfieldscum · 08-15-2011, 10:07 PM

So exactly how do you cast a vote against gays, hispanics, the poor, and the blacks Mr 90? Question...Abraham Lincoln was a member of which political party?

djdude · 08-16-2011, 06:23 AM

Well I suppose as long as you are willing to go back 140 years, then maybe the Republican presidents weren't always asshats.

dearhunter · 08-16-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 90

What was the debt when Obama took office....9.8 trillion....sorry I rounded up! Tarp was under Bush then Obama( you forgot to count tarp). What Obama did was stop another great depression! History books will be on his side of that point of view. He/our gov did what ALL industrial nations did...spend! Why did they do it too? To stop depressions in their countires...these are the facts! Sorry but Republican trickle down leads to our ruined economy(if 70% of our economy is consumer spending then people need money but the rich have it)! Call me whatever name you want. Faster under Obama true but for what reason?? Read your U.S. history (Hoover's trickle down failure 1920's and Roosevelt's New Deal 1930"s) if you can comprehend it. So, let's be clear dearhunter I'm talking about the debt...not deficit, that' somthing different(that's spending more than we take in, that's why i say increase taxes on the rich). You are what I was reffering too before..idiots that don't have the cognitive capacity to follow "politricks" so they vote their emotion. Thanks for proving my point dumbass! So who you calling names? Get a clue, learn your facts and think, think, think independently!!! Oh and your math doesn't add up to 14 trillion either...so....????

So, by that logic Obama has given us a 14 trillion in debt......I'm ok with that.

Bush gave us 4 trillion (rounding here) in 8 years.......Obama gave us 4 trillion (rounding here) in 3 years.......all he did was prove he is a bigger fuckup than Bush.....and I didn't thinck that was possible.