Positive Test in Atx among providers

[sportfisherman]

I got a great idea for Chump and his Chumpsters and maybe for our country too.
Chump could have a new show ;" Apprentice White House ". He can put together some contestants perhaps a few from this board. And maybe some old ones like Omarosa.Their first task could be a Virus test,then a vaccine,then a treatment,then they could address our economy what is left of it.It would make great TV while we are locked-down.Plus it could bring in some revenue.At the end we can Fire Chump in the election !!
And take guidance from know-nothings instead of any credentialed specialists or authorities. What do you think ? It's just a Hunch !

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by sportfisherman

Places such as Singapore,Hong Kong,South Korea ...

So lets review:
Singapore, population around 5.9M- less than Dallas metro at 6.8M
Hong Kong, population around 7.5M - less than NYC at 8.4M
Taiwan, population around 23.8M
South Korea, population around 51.2 M

Singapore, like Taiwan, moved very early to block travelers from the outbreak region in China’s Hubei province. Singapore was one of the first countries to block inbound flights from Wuhan, for example, and it was generally even faster to restrict travel from outbreak areas than Taiwan....Singapore is so energetic about identifying coronavirus patients and making sure they go into isolation that it uses detectives to track them down.

South Korea: Many South Koreans complain the coronavirus was allowed to spread too quickly in their country by permissive travel policies. About 1.45 million South Koreans have signed a petition to impeach President Moon Jae-in for acting too slowly to restrict travel from China, despite pointed warnings from the Korean Medical Association, and for sending too many medical resources to help with the outbreak there.

Let's not forget that Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea have an ingrained distrust of China generally. You didn't happen to notice that many Hong Kong-ers have been wearing face masks for many, many months during their protests of Chinese rule? To be fair, it was mainly to inhibit the effects of tear gas and what not, but luckily helped with ye olde virus by virtue of being plentiful, as they are in the other countries mentioned. Oddly enough, sometimes it's because of pollution and other times because there are lot of similar diseases in Southeast Asia historically and horrendously dense packed population centers.

Is your proposal to ban flights from China? My fuzzy recollection is that when Trump did that in January the NY Times, NPR, CNN and no shortage of pompous-azzed celebrities kinda bagged on him about such racist restrictions. Or are you advocating going door to door and hunting patients down and tossing them in mandatory 14 day quarantine centers or FEMA camps or Gulags - Comrade?

Why no mention of Wuhan, pop around 8.6M? They claim to be free of the disease now. Although there was that whole schick of welding people into their apartments. To be fair, they did go back after a few weeks to check on the few survivors at least. Guessing you thought it brilliant crisis management to eject American (independent) reporters and to have so many Chinese reporters gone missing. Aren't you even a little curious how they still have thousands of deaths from 'unidentified pneumonia' going on? Nah, probably just a freakishly weird coincidence that virus victims tend to die of pneumonia. Also, no mention of North Korea, population around 25.7M, having zero reported cases. They must be doing something right. Eh Comrade?

[sportfisherman]

Jethro Bodine !!
My proposal was that we should have taken this more seriously early on and we should have taken actions beyond closing border to China.Such as early testing and medical build-up.
It's too late for that now.If you dispute the efficacy of early testing then you disagree with most epidemiologists,microbiologist s,infectious disease experts,etc.These are people with credentials to have Valid opinions.
Did China mis-handle this situation ? Probably yes.
I don't live in China.Pres. Xi is not my president.
I am more concerned with what my Mis-Leader does and does not do.
What do you think about "Apprentice White House" ?
Remember if you can't keep up ... You have to sit at the kiddie table.

[Sienna91]

Originally Posted by RZ

I have it from someone that tested positive who was in contact/community spread from someone that traveled recently to the East Coast

EVERYONE make sure you know who you are seeing and honestly it's not worth the
risk

This Shit is REAL

They isolated the person and didn't even let them use their cell for 2 days once they showed up at her door

most reports I've seen on people who have the virus they're not even releasing who it is so where was this information?

[Sienna91]

Originally Posted by ATF Hobby

To test or not to test. I am pretty simple and see it as this.

1. This initial social distancing must be used to minimize overwhelming the health care system in it's current state.

2. We have to look down the road towards a vaccine, much like our flu one, in order to minimize future outbreaks and give us time to strengthen our health care resources.

3. Will the new vaccine possibly have long term effects or side effects?
Possibly, since we are fast-tracking it, but, what else can be done.

4. If this virus acts like the flu, can you get it again? I am no expert, but I wouuld think yes. So, a vaccine is what's going to help us the most.

5. If you can be a carrier, show no signs, and still pass it on, do you really think we have the ability to stop it? I do not think so, therefore, we do the social distancing in order to try and catch up to the virus.

6. And, how often should you get tested. Just because you come back negative, could you contract it at a later date. I think trying to test EVERYONE is unreasonable and testing should be focused on those supporting the infrastructure that will continue providing fuel, food, energy, medical services, first responders...etc.

Does anyone have all the answers......NO.

How long do you support social distancing for?

[ATF Hobby]

Originally Posted by Sienna91

How long do you support social distancing for?

Such a difficult question to answer.........thanks Sienna

How long is too long? When it gets to the point where the hit to the economy, and to people's personal lives, creates enough desperation that it will override the need for safety.

Wish I had a better answer.

[Latin_ATX]

I’m ready to see providers as I have been waking up with hard ons but the corona virus is keeping me away

[Opossum]

Originally Posted by RZ

They isolated the person and didn't even let them use their cell for 2 days once they showed up at her door

Now that is a big fat lie.

[forge223]

90 days of effective masking, 90 days of correct social distancing. 100% compliance and we can get this thing under control. Otherwise you can just watch the numbers rise in deaths and total infections. This bug is a seriously efficient killer.
Read 'The Great Influenza' by John Barry and substitute 2020 for everywhere you see 1919. THEN tell me this thing is 'going away'. H1N1 in 1919 didn't, SARS-CoV2 is not either. The best that we can do is learn to limit exposure, and handle the consequences period.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by forge223

90 days of effective masking, 90 days of correct social distancing. 100% compliance and we can get this thing under control. Otherwise you can just watch the numbers rise in deaths and total infections. This bug is a seriously efficient killer.
Read 'The Great Influenza' by John Barry and substitute 2020 for everywhere you see 1919. THEN tell me this thing is 'going away'. H1N1 in 1919 didn't, SARS-CoV2 is not either. The best that we can do is learn to limit exposure, and handle the consequences period.

Apples and oranges! The spanish flu from 1918-1920 had a much higher death rate! Substantially higher! It was a h1n1 virus. So was the swine flu that had a higher death rate than covid!

[BJonesBaby]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Apples and oranges! The spanish flu from 1918-1920 had a much higher death rate! Substantially higher! It was a h1n1 virus. So was the swine flu that had a higher death rate than covid!

Respectfully, it seems like you believe this is a hoax, how do you feel about the Governor’s new order mandating the wearing of masks in public? Will you do your part to stop the spread of this disease?

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by BJonesBaby

Respectfully, it seems like you believe this is a hoax, how do you feel about the Governor’s new order mandating the wearing of masks in public? Will you do your part to stop the spread of this disease?

Sir. Why are you fabricating my post? Where did i even hint that its a hoax? I wont wait!
My post was to bring some truth to this wuhan flu outbreak.
The wuhan flu is no where near as deadly as the spanish flu nor even the swine flu. Not even close. I wear my mask and follow the rules because it is serious. But i dont want to hear any comparisons to the spanish flu plague or even the swine flu. Many of my relatives died from the spanish flu outbreaks. Some died over seas in WW1 not from war but the spanish flu.

[forge223]

Actually if you look at the overall infection rate, it is at least that of the Great Influenza. The rate of fatalities due to infection is lower, but we are also not concentrating in training camps as they were in WW1.

I never said the current SARS-CoV2 was H1N1. I said compare the two is all. Just because the virus is different does NOT mean that the effects are going to be different. Compare Marburg and Ebola. Both horrible bugs but kill in almost the same manner. CoVid 19 and H1N1 effects are very similar but from different families of viruses.

H1N1 NEVER went away, it still exists today. All that happened is that due to the rapid lethality of the H1N1 it eventually burned out in the vulnerable population and became produced a less lethal reaction from the human body's immune system. SARS-CoV2 is already making that transition. It is now more infectious than the original virus albeit less lethal. Just means that this bugs learns fast that killing off your host too quickly is a sure fire recipe for your existence to end.

Infectious without symptoms and cause a cough...boom...bug spreads rapidly and efficiently. Add in the humans that refuse to believe or comply with PROVEN methods of reducing the spread and WOW goodbye to the humans race as we knew it.

[BJonesBaby]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Sir. Why are you fabricating my post? Where did i even hint that its a hoax? I wont wait!
My post was to bring some truth to this wuhan flu outbreak.
The wuhan flu is no where near as deadly as the spanish flu nor even the swine flu. Not even close. I wear my mask and follow the rules because it is serious. But i dont want to hear any comparisons to the spanish flu plague or even the swine flu. Many of my relatives died from the spanish flu outbreaks. Some died over seas in WW1 not from war but the spanish flu.

In a way, you make sense. You shouldn’t really compare the spread of Spanish flu with COVID-19 (Trump racist labels nonwithstanding).

Spanish flu - 100 years ago - spread and ravaged the nation because of public health ignorance. I believe the government did everything it could to stop it.

COVID-19 is spreading because of the stupidity of public health officials, a government unwilling to lead and populations who have been told it was a hoax or deny the danger.

Great point, sir.

[forge223]

Read John Barry's 'The Great Influenza' and you will realize that the 'government' spread massive amounts of non-information and misinformation during the pandemic. They prevented many of the reforms that might have made a serious difference early on. Were the populace stupid in general? Yep and how.

Was the government complicit in the spread, yeppers. Woodrow Wilson would not slow down the concentration of troops in affected/infected camps and overcrowded troop ships were floating coffins.

Troops ships 1919=cruise ships 2020. Public health trying to tell people to mask and distance 1919=same thing 2020. White House spreading false information 1919=same thing 2020. First wave mild effects and survival rates high 1919=Initial effects minor and containable 2020. Refusal to acknowledge the world wide potential for a pandemic and massive infections and death -both 1919 & 2020.

TO WD: I lost relatives to the Great Influenza also. Buried in mass graves with no idea where in OK they may be.