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Old 02-27-2020, 03:23 PM   #16
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Old 02-27-2020, 03:29 PM   #17
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You didn’t know that about me, so, you get a pass on your attack, this time.
From the one who knows about attacking..."fat lying bastard"...your only go to line.
Your mama wears combat boots...I heard that in first grade...FUCKING GROW UP!!
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Old 02-28-2020, 08:21 AM   #18
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Just the typical predictably irrational response , from the basement peoples
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Old 02-28-2020, 09:56 PM   #19
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Old 02-28-2020, 10:43 PM   #20
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Old 02-29-2020, 12:45 AM   #22
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Present a plan? To trump?

This is his job, cupcake. And he gave it to Pence while he was between campaign rallies in India and South Carolina.

See how you project? You talk about photo-ops and fundraising.

Exactly what the guy who should be working on this is doing.


That's right. Guidelines that trump didn't mention in any of his speeches about the virus.
And from the number of people who get the flu every year, it's obvious that more needs to be done than to follow CDC guidelines for personal hygiene to stay virus-free.

Stop defending trump. He has done nothing but downplay the severity of the virus, blame Dems, and hand responsibility to somebody who screwed the pooch on his last attempt at managing a health crisis.
You predicted, "The cost of the disease pandemic in the US will be millions sickened, and tens to hundreds of thousands of deaths."

And trump goes to fundraisers.

I'm not going to call you a liar. I'm going to call you stupid.
No not to Trump but to us. I suspect that you think you're more qualified than Trump so surprise us with a well thought out, constitutionally workable plan that everyone would sign onto. Failing that, how about the democratic plan besides bitching and moaning.
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Listen to yourself. You're so scared you're asking me what to do. You come to a hooker board looking for answers trump should be giving you. But...
you'll just have to wait on trump.
He's getting his marching orders from those public health experts, diamond and silk.
You just keep sucking dick to free up women to act as nurses if need be.
My contempt for you grows by the day. You claim to have voted for a guy to be president and find out he's just like you. 270 pounds of shit in a 200 pound bag.
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No not to Trump but to us. I suspect that you think you're more qualified than Trump so surprise us with a well thought out, constitutionally workable plan that everyone would sign onto. Failing that, how about the democratic plan besides bitching and moaning.
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Old 02-29-2020, 01:46 AM   #24
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Listen to yourself. You're so scared you're asking me what to do. You come to a hooker board looking for answers trump should be giving you...
Listen to yourself, dickmuncher! You stagger onto a hooker board whining that trump is somehow fucking up because his Veep hesitated to hand out free needles to junkies in Indiana years ago. Yeah, that makes sense.

You're just scared Pence will secretly smear coronavirus all over the seats at the DNC convention in Milwaukee this July. We hope you'll be in attendance!

If you can't even explain what a proper response to this potential public health crisis would look like, how in the fuck can you declare that trump's response falls short of what is needed?

Oh wait, you can't. You're a fucking loser.
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Pence didn't do too well on his last "outbreak".

You know trump didn't know he screwed the pooch and even if his "advisors" told him he wouldn't change his mind.

Mike Pence was criticized for his handling of Indiana’s HIV outbreak. He will lead the U.S. coronavirus response.

When President Trump announced that Vice President Pence would lead federal efforts against the spread of the coronavirus, he said the Pence was the right person for the task because of his experience.

“He’s got a certain talent for this,” Trump said at a White House briefing about the virus, which has infected nearly five dozen people in the United States so far.

The announcement has cast light on Pence’s record as a lawmaker and his handling of a major public health crisis during his time as governor of Indiana. The worst HIV outbreak in the state’s history happened on his watch in 2015, which critics blamed on Pence’s belated response and his opposition to authorizing a needle-exchange program.

In 2011, as a member of Congress, he voted to cut funding for Planned Parenthood. Two years later, a Planned Parenthood clinic that had been the only HIV-testing center in Scott County, Ind., closed after public health spending cuts, HuffPost reported.
Two months passed from the start of the outbreak in 2015 before Pence declared a public state of emergency.



The spread of the disease was attributed to people injecting Opana, an addictive painkiller, with shared needles. But Pence didn’t agree with federal health experts that distributing clean needles was a good idea.

“I don’t believe effective anti-drug policy involves handing out drug paraphernalia,” he told the Indianapolis Star at the time. Despite assurances from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that it is an effective way to halt the spread of infections and diseases such as HIV and hepatitis B and C, Pence said that if state lawmakers tried to send him a bill for a needle-exchange program, he would veto it.

As cases spiked, Pence reportedly turned to prayer.


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Trump's plan for the coronavirus so far:

-Cut winter heating assistance for the poor
-Have VP Pence, who wanted to "pray away" HIV epidemic, oversee the response
-Let ex-pharma lobbyist Alex Azar refuse to guarantee affordable vaccines to all

Disgusting.



After 75 people were confirmed to be HIV-positive, Pence announced he would allow a 30-day needle exchange.
Public health officials weren’t the only ones to warn Pence about delaying action. State Rep. Ed Clere, a fellow Republican, also pushed Pence to approve a needle exchange.

“It was disappointing that it took so much effort to bring the governor on board,” Clere told the New York Times.

In 2018, researchers at Yale University found that the epidemic could have been prevented if Pence and state officials had acted faster. The study received financial support from the federal government.

“Our findings suggest that with earlier action the actual number of infections recorded in Scott County — 215 — might have been brought down to fewer than 56, if the state had acted in 2013, or to fewer than 10 infections, if they had responded to the [hepatitis C] outbreak in 2010-2011,” the paper’s senior author, Forrest W. Crawford, said in a statement at the time. Instead they cut funding for the last HIV testing provider in the county.”
One of the researchers on the study, Yale epidemiologist Gregg Gonsalves, tweeted Wednesday that Pence’s assignment overseeing coronavirus efforts “speaks to a lack of seriousness by the White House.”

Pence also downplayed the risk of smoking as late as 2000, Vox first reported; he wrote in an op-ed on his congressional website: “Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn’t kill.”

On Wednesday, Trump emphasized that Pence would not be a coronavirus “czar” because “he is a part of the administration.”

Pence said he looked forward to leading the federal response to the coronavirus.

“As a former governor from the state where the first MERS case emerged in 2014,” he said, “I know full well the importance of presidential leadership, the importance of administration leadership, and the vital role of partnerships of state and local governments, and health authorities in responding to potential threats and dangerous infectious diseases.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e-hiv-indiana/

Nice pick, douche-bag.

Now you really own this.

Now we have to hope trump is right about something.




so ... you are angry because they wouldn't refund your discounted one way airline ticket to Wuhan?
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