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10-08-2019, 08:04 AM
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there are plenty of Republican Leakers inside the White House, maybe Schiff and company are concerned that House Republicans might leak the identity of the WB, and have him assassinated?
sounds farfetched, but in the crazy environment we are in, that thought can't be off the table. when Trump has already called the WB "treasonous", and a "Spy", it only takes one right-wing crazy with an AR-15 to "get even".
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10-08-2019, 08:14 AM
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the whistleblower is merely an illegal partisan leaker hiding behind the loophole of a whistleblower planned in cahoots with dim operatives and lawyers
when you agree to being the dim point man for a presidential impeachment, you should lose all anonymity
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10-08-2019, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought
the whistleblower is merely an illegal partisan leaker hiding behind the loophole of a whistleblower planned in cahoots with dim operatives and lawyers
when you agree to being the dim point man for a presidential impeachment, you should lose all anonymity
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that is your spin.
fact is, the Trump Administration has many insiders who are disgusted with Trump going on 3 years. it was easy to predict. during the debates, Republicans were dumbstruck at the shit Trump would say, the attacks he made on fellow Republicans. many of you seem to forget that the never-Trump movement started internally, fellow Republicans like Jeb Bush and Little Marco, not to mention Ted Cruz, were aghast at the idea Trump could actually WIN.
yet you guys pin all of Trump's "deep-state" troubles on the Democrats. fuck, from day one, Administration Officials (and yes, many of those were long-term, career Government folks) were out to undermine Trump's leadership. this Whistleblower is a Republican, but you guys refuse to admit that. can't be, you are thinking, we whipped little Marco and Lyin' Ted into submission, this Whistleblower HAS to be one of THEM.
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10-08-2019, 09:36 AM
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that is your spin.
fact is, the Trump Administration has many insiders who are disgusted with Trump going on 3 years. it was easy to predict. during the debates, Republicans were dumbstruck at the shit Trump would say, the attacks he made on fellow Republicans. many of you seem to forget that the never-Trump movement started internally, fellow Republicans like Jeb Bush and Little Marco, not to mention Ted Cruz, were aghast at the idea Trump could actually WIN.
yet you guys pin all of Trump's "deep-state" troubles on the Democrats. fuck, from day one, Administration Officials (and yes, many of those were long-term, career Government folks) were out to undermine Trump's leadership. this Whistleblower is a Republican, but you guys refuse to admit that. can't be, you are thinking, we whipped little Marco and Lyin' Ted into submission, this Whistleblower HAS to be one of THEM.
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Wrong Chung Tran. It's not Democrats or Republicans who are causing Trump's "deep state" troubles. It's Trump. If he'd keep his mouth shut and exercise good judgement it would mostly solve his Deep State problems. The way he fired Comey is a good example. The cluster fuck in Ukraine is another. Jaxson posted a story the AP broke about that in another thread and it's an eye opener. He needs to stop running the Presidency like he ran his real estate business before it's too late.
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10-08-2019, 09:48 AM
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Wrong Chung Tran. It's not Democrats or Republicans who are causing Trump's "deep state" troubles. It's Trump. If he'd keep his mouth shut and exercise good judgement it would mostly solve his Deep State problems. The way he fired Comey is a good example. The cluster fuck in Ukraine is another. Jaxson posted a story the AP broke about that in another thread and it's an eye opener. He needs to stop running the Presidency like he ran his real estate business before it's too late.
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Bullshit! The whole "RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!" mantra was an orchestrated attempt to destroy the legitimacy of presidency. It had nothing to do with anything Trump said. It was prompted merely by his winning the election. This Ukraine matter is no different.
This so-called "whistleblower" is a dim-retard operative coordinating with Shitty and lawyers connected to hildebeest and Soros. The IC rules were change to facilitate this jackass's nonsense. That shit isn't "coincidental". Now, the dim-retards what to proceed with "anonymously sourced hearsay". That would deny Trump his right to challenge his accuser. That is the Nazi and Soviet system of "justice" -- not American!
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10-08-2019, 09:58 AM
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Bullshit! The whole "RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!" mantra was an orchestrated attempt to destroy the legitimacy of presidency. It had nothing to do with anything Trump said. It was prompted merely by his winning the election. This Ukraine matter is no different.
This so-called "whistleblower" is a dim-retard operative coordinating with Shitty and lawyers connected to hildebeest and Soros. The IC rules were change to facilitate this jackass's nonsense. That shit isn't "coincidental". Now, the dim-retards what to proceed with "anonymously sourced hearsay". That would deny Trump his right to challenge his accuser. That is the Nazi and Soviet system of "justice" -- not American!
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Cmon Dems. Put up or shut up. Stop making a mockery of the process. You want to follow the Constitution, then first off as above noted, give Trump his 6th Amendment right to confront his accuser. Next take the prescribed vote to formally start an inquiry and stop playing bullshit shadow games to keep Republicans out of the prescribed process.
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10-08-2019, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
Bullshit! The whole "RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!" mantra was an orchestrated attempt to destroy the legitimacy of presidency. It had nothing to do with anything Trump said. It was prompted merely by his winning the election. This Ukraine matter is no different.
This so-called "whistleblower" is a dim-retard operative coordinating with Shitty and lawyers connected to hildebeest and Soros. The IC rules were change to facilitate this jackass's nonsense. That shit isn't "coincidental". Now, the dim-retards what to proceed with "anonymously sourced hearsay". That would deny Trump his right to challenge his accuser. That is the Nazi and Soviet system of "justice" -- not American!
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Yeah, change the subject. I said nothing about Russia, which I probably agree with you about, nothing about a whistleblower, nothing about anonymously sourced hearsay. The AP story that I DID mention described how Trump turned Giuliani loose in Ukraine. And he didn't pay him. So Giuliani's main focus is using Trump's name and State Department connections to pursue his own agenda. And that agenda is replacing the management of the national oil company, Naftogaz, so his crooked, two bit clients can sell LNG to Ukraine, probably after adding a hefty mark-up onto whatever they pay Exxon or Chevron. That's why the U.S. ambassador to the Ukraine was fired. That's why Trump was on the call with Zelensky, because Rick Perry, who was going to slip a few of his own guys onto the Naftogaz board of directors, talked him into it. He did at least have the good judgement not to pursue this hare brained scheme. He however displayed exceptionally poor judgement going after Joe Biden for a non-crime and turning Giuliani loose in Ukraine with the support of the State Department. Trump digs his own graves.
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10-08-2019, 10:25 AM
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Yeah, change the subject. I said nothing about Russia, which I probably agree with you about, nothing about a whistleblower, nothing about anonymously sourced hearsay. The AP story that I DID mention described how Trump turned Giuliani loose in Ukraine. And he didn't pay him. So Giuliani's main focus is using Trump's name and State Department connections to pursue his own agenda. And that agenda is replacing the management of the national oil company, Naftogaz, so his crooked, two bit clients can sell LNG to Ukraine, probably after adding a hefty mark-up onto whatever they pay Exxon or Chevron. That's why the U.S. ambassador to the Ukraine was fired. That's why Trump was on the call with Zelensky, because Rick Perry, who was going to slip a few of his own guys onto the Naftogaz board of directors, talked him into it. He did at least have the good judgement not to pursue this hare brained scheme. He however displayed exceptionally poor judgement going after Joe Biden for a non-crime and turning Giuliani loose in Ukraine with the support of the State Department. Trump digs his own graves.
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Now who's changing the subject. What does all of that have to do with the Dems trying to deprive Trump and Republicans the ability to see or properly interrogate the whistle blower?
It's obviously a continued kangaroo court exercise by the Dems.
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10-08-2019, 10:45 AM
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The reason the Dims want to hide this guy has nothing to do with "protecting" him. They don't want the public to be allowed to see and hear and evaluate his credibility because then everyone would know he is a partisan hack.
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10-08-2019, 11:50 AM
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Yeah, change the subject. I said nothing about Russia, which I probably agree with you about, nothing about a whistleblower, nothing about anonymously sourced hearsay. The AP story that I DID mention described how Trump turned Giuliani loose in Ukraine. And he didn't pay him. So Giuliani's main focus is using Trump's name and State Department connections to pursue his own agenda. And that agenda is replacing the management of the national oil company, Naftogaz, so his crooked, two bit clients can sell LNG to Ukraine, probably after adding a hefty mark-up onto whatever they pay Exxon or Chevron. That's why the U.S. ambassador to the Ukraine was fired. That's why Trump was on the call with Zelensky, because Rick Perry, who was going to slip a few of his own guys onto the Naftogaz board of directors, talked him into it. He did at least have the good judgement not to pursue this hare brained scheme. He however displayed exceptionally poor judgement going after Joe Biden for a non-crime and turning Giuliani loose in Ukraine with the support of the State Department. Trump digs his own graves.
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Pretending that this Ukraine nonsense isn't anything less than the perpetuation of the Russia nonsense in another verse to the same dim-retard song is nonsense and earns you no kudos. Trump has a right to defend himself against dim-retard bullshit, and Giuliani was acting as Trump's lawyer by preparing his defense against a possible impeachment in the event Mueller's report was extremely bad.
You might want to check the timeline where Giuliani started his search for evidence BEFORE the Mueller report was released.
Trump is obligated to investigate and prosecute criminal behavior -- even if the culprit is a former vice president. Thomas Jefferson's vice president was brought up on charges and prosecuted.
As Odumbo was issuing executive mandates to curtail drilling in this country he was giving money -- via Quid Pro Joe -- to Hunter Biden and Devon Archer's Burisma to drill an exploit the fossil fuel market with less competition from the U.S. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer profited just fine off the decisions and activities of Odumbo and Quid Pro Joe.
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Now who's changing the subject. What does all of that have to do with the Dems trying to deprive Trump and Republicans the ability to see or properly interrogate the whistle blower?
It's obviously a continued kangaroo court exercise by the Dems.
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10-08-2019, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Chung Tran
that is your spin.
fact is, the Trump Administration has many insiders who are disgusted with Trump going on 3 years. it was easy to predict. during the debates, Republicans were dumbstruck at the shit Trump would say, the attacks he made on fellow Republicans. many of you seem to forget that the never-Trump movement started internally, fellow Republicans like Jeb Bush and Little Marco, not to mention Ted Cruz, were aghast at the idea Trump could actually WIN.
yet you guys pin all of Trump's "deep-state" troubles on the Democrats. fuck, from day one, Administration Officials (and yes, many of those were long-term, career Government folks) were out to undermine Trump's leadership. this Whistleblower is a Republican, but you guys refuse to admit that. can't be, you are thinking, we whipped little Marco and Lyin' Ted into submission, this Whistleblower HAS to be one of THEM.
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If you say so.
BAHHAHAAA
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10-08-2019, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Chung Tran
yet you guys pin all of Trump's "deep-state" troubles on the Democrats. fuck, from day one, Administration Officials (and yes, many of those were long-term, career Government folks) were out to undermine Trump's leadership. this Whistleblower is a Republican, but you guys refuse to admit that. can't be, you are thinking, we whipped little Marco and Lyin' Ted into submission, this Whistleblower HAS to be one of THEM.
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which whistle-blower is this?
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10-09-2019, 07:19 AM
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The reason the Dims want to hide this guy has nothing to do with "protecting" him. They don't want the public to be allowed to see and hear and evaluate his credibility because then everyone would know he is a partisan hack.
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I don't follow your logic here.. I keep hearing this, but of course it is a "Hack" who wants to bring down Trump.. so what? just because the WB may hate Trump doesn't mean the info is not solid. the transcript proved everything that was said to the Committee. of course your side says it doesn't. your head is in the sand for whatever reason.
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Cmon Dems. Put up or shut up. Stop making a mockery of the process. You want to follow the Constitution, then first off as above noted, give Trump his 6th Amendment right to confront his accuser. Next take the prescribed vote to formally start an inquiry and stop playing bullshit shadow games to keep Republicans out of the prescribed process.
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I agree.. until a formal inquiry vote is taken, and succeeds, the Dems are allowing and encouraging stonewalling.
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10-09-2019, 07:32 AM
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"The swamp " hates him anything goes ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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10-09-2019, 09:36 AM
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just because the WB may hate Trump doesn't mean the info is not solid. the transcript proved everything that was said to the Committee. of course your side says it doesn't. your head is in the sand for whatever reason.
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When reasonable people disagree on what the actual transcript "proved" it tells me the whistleblower's info is far from "solid".
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