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Old 06-30-2019, 07:13 PM   #16
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Isn't Trump the first American president to travel to North Korea?
I don't remember Barry and Michael going.
Obama sent Dennis Rodman, lol.
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Old 06-30-2019, 08:39 PM   #17
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Obama "sent" Rodman, because he knew his own presence would give Kim a "stage".. Trump is being used, this photo-op was ultimately pointless, it only gives Kim a bullhorn.. Trump doesn't realize he's being played, but Trump doesn't care either.. just make it look like you're trying to achieve something.
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Old 06-30-2019, 09:14 PM   #18
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Obama "sent" Rodman, because he knew his own presence would give Kim a "stage".. Trump is being used, this photo-op was ultimately pointless, it only gives Kim a bullhorn.. Trump doesn't realize he's being played, but Trump doesn't care either.. just make it look like you're trying to achieve something.

how many times can you contradict yourself in one post?

is this a record for ECCIE? seems like it.
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Old 06-30-2019, 09:21 PM   #19
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Obama "sent" Rodman, because he knew his own presence would give Kim a "stage".. Trump is being used, this photo-op was ultimately pointless, it only gives Kim a bullhorn.. Trump doesn't realize he's being played, but Trump doesn't care either.. just make it look like you're trying to achieve something.
Obama let Kim play his game of brinkmanship with his missile testing and military exercises basically unchecked and unaddressed. That gave Kim far more of a "stage" than Trump is.

At the time of Trumps election many on both sides felt Obama had us on the brink with NK and after Trumps initial diplomatic efforts many of those same people on both sides felt safer.

Like Trump or not. Feel like he's being played or not. It's generally accepted we are safer with NK now than at the start of Presidency.
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Old 06-30-2019, 09:42 PM   #20
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Obama "sent" Rodman, because he knew his own presence would give Kim a "stage".. Trump is being used, this photo-op was ultimately pointless, it only gives Kim a bullhorn.. Trump doesn't realize he's being played, but Trump doesn't care either.. just make it look like you're trying to achieve something.
+1

They’ll both spin their asses off, but Kim playing Trump like that makes our whole nation look weak.

He shoulda let Ivanka handle the convo for him. She’s on a roll with international heads of state.

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Obama "sent" Rodman, because he knew his own presence would give Kim a "stage".. Trump is being used, this photo-op was ultimately pointless, it only gives Kim a bullhorn.. Trump doesn't realize he's being played, but Trump doesn't care either.. just make it look like you're trying to achieve something.
Shit, the whole Geopolitical scene is a stage. The reason why Rodman went to NK is because Obama is a wimp. I am surprised we didn't get our asses bombed while he was president.
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Shit, the whole Geopolitical scene is a stage. The reason why Rodman went to NK is because Obama is a wimp. I am surprised we didn't get our asses bombed while he was president.
Yeah, during that entire period, Rodman basically was demonized by some on to the left as operating outside of Obama's wishes.

That some now claim he was "sent" by Obama is laughable. Rodman cried on CNN and and ripped Obama for ignoring him on NK.

It's hilarious watching the left rewrite the terrible Obama legacy in order to continue to demonize Trump.
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Obama sent Dennis Rodman, lol.
Might have been his best move yet. In my opinion everything he touched turned to shit.
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Obama "sent" Rodman, because he knew his own presence would give Kim a "stage".. Trump is being used, this photo-op was ultimately pointless, it only gives Kim a bullhorn.. Trump doesn't realize he's being played, but Trump doesn't care either.. just make it look like you're trying to achieve something.
Who’s being played? NK is starving.
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I was impressed by the move to be honest. I hope to see something from it but I don't expect anything from it. But to see a president cross the line it was a big moment in history. Loved watching the press fall over each other trying to figure out what the fuck was going on.
Have to say, thought it was ballsy of Trump to do that.

There have been a few things the President has done that seems to be a step in the right direction. Creating dialogue always seems to be a good move.
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The DPST's are missing the boat - this is a huge opportunity for them to include NK in their "Reparations" for our misdeeds in the 1950's in Korea.

Oh, the shame and sorrow for what we did to the poor Chinese and NK
vote up a few billions to add the purse of Kim and Xi - that will set things right
Of course.
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The DPST's are missing the boat - this is a huge opportunity for them to include NK in their "Reparations" for our misdeeds in the 1950's in Korea.

Oh, the shame and sorrow for what we did to the poor Chinese and NK
vote up a few billions to add the purse of Kim and Xi - that will set things right
Of course.
Obama paid reparations to Iran.
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Obama paid reparations to Iran.
That's because Valerie Jared is Iranian and basically ran the Administration. Obama really doesn't know shit. He probably couldn't find Iran on the map. Whatever she requested the dummy did, lol.
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Old 07-03-2019, 08:17 PM   #30
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Have to say, thought it was ballsy of Trump to do that.

There have been a few things the President has done that seems to be a step in the right direction. Creating dialogue always seems to be a good move.
except Kim Jung Un is playing Trump.. they don't believe Trump has peace on his mind. it's all about ego.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=spartandhp

it was a photo-op.. how ballsy can that be?
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