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Old 06-23-2019, 09:13 AM   #16
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....Again I'll ask the questions. Do you think Trump is aware of the 3 or 4 polls showing him losing in key battleground states? Do you think Trump and his reelection team are, as we post, taking actions in those battleground states based on the negative polls?
Lose? By how much? 1 percent? 2 percent? What percent?
What was the size of the poll sample population?
And, what is each polls margin of error?
Note that if the margin of error is anywhere close to the win/lose percentage, the poll is worthless. This is standard, and basic, statistical sampling mathematics.

Note that a poll is worthlessly biased if there's a targeted population.

All the above is common bullshit when political polls are taken, reported, and claimed to represent the entire nation.

And this is why poll folks get fired, cause a real representative poll costs a fortune.
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:20 AM   #17
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Lose? By how much? 1 percent? 2 percent? What percent?
What was the size of the poll sample population?
And, what is each polls margin of error?
Note that if the margin of error is anywhere close to the win/lose percentage, the poll is worthless. This is standard, and basic, statistical sampling mathematics.

Note that a poll is worthlessly biased if there's a targeted population.

All the above is common bullshit when political polls are taken, reported, and claimed to represent the entire nation.

And this is why poll folks get fired, cause a real representative poll costs a fortune.
Without looking, most polls have approximately 1,000 respondents and the margin of error is in the 3-4% range.

With few exceptions, polls are very accurate in their predictions.
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:25 AM   #18
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Without looking, most polls have approximately 1,000 respondents and the margin of error is in the 3-4% range.

With few exceptions, polls are very accurate in their predictions.

tell that to Hillary Clinton.


BASHHAHAAAAAAAAAA


i'll get around to your other nonsense later. i'm sure several will have picked it clean by then.
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:40 AM   #19
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Without looking, most polls have approximately 1,000 respondents and the margin of error is in the 3-4% range.

With few exceptions, polls are very accurate in their predictions.
Within the margin of error, polls are usually pretty accurate. Again it's the pundits that make polls look bad.

Pundits will run with and make a lock a poll that's 50-47 with a 4% margin of error. That's exactly what happened in 2016. The NYT put Hillary at 98% to win when she was within the margin of error on most polls.

Trump certainly bucked the odds in several polls and won. But it wasn't totally outside the poll predictions, just the pundits.

Where most pollsters/etc. end up losing out is the very subject of this thread. They, like Speed, dismiss almost out of hand the enthusiasm factor in lieu of their polling data.

So 99% at a Trump rally have their mind made up, but when they come out of the rally fired up, does that enthusiasm spill over to non-committed voters. I think it does and that explains much of what happened in 2016. It's certainly ramping up right now for similar enthusiasm and in my opinion large spillover to those undecided.

2018, the enthusiasm factor carried into the Dems and they took the house, failed miserably in the Senate, got a few Governors, etc. Not a stellar performance from a number of positions standpoint, but did win on enthusiasm.

2020 is a different story with Trump running and the enthusiasm he will carry.
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:53 AM   #20
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Without looking, most polls have approximately 1,000 respondents and the margin of error is in the 3-4% range.

With few exceptions, polls are very accurate in their predictions.
I guess one of the "EXCEPTIONS"...2016 election...yeah SPEED polls are very accurate in their predictions.
When is the election SPEED??...17 months.
Raising RECORD crowds and money mean nothing...GOTCHA SPEED!!
You step in it all the time SPEED....keep stepping.
P.S. How's your man BITTEN doing SPEED?
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