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12-16-2017, 12:56 PM
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The problem with your post is that you assume everyone getting assistance is scamming the system
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Many are scamming
Kids who are their victims become scammers as well due to the cycle of their scamming circumstances and the cycle begins anew
These people devise their circumstances to meet any requirement of aid and would rather have free days to grift than work 40 years like Us suckers
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12-16-2017, 01:02 PM
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It won't happen, Standing Stupid. hildebeest's dim-retard redistribution plan was checked by the last election, Standing Stupid.
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Well assface I guess you like the Republican redistribution plan better, take from 98 % of the people and redistribute to the top 2 % . That will help you a lot you moron. What’s comical is that most redneck republicans because they can afford a truck think they are part of the wealthy. Unless your a millionaire many times over your getting screwed by the people you vote for, wake up!
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12-16-2017, 01:25 PM
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Well assface I guess you like the Republican redistribution plan better, take from 98 % of the people and redistribute to the top 2 % . That will help you a lot you moron. What’s comical is that most redneck republicans because they can afford a truck think they are part of the wealthy. Unless your a millionaire many times over your getting screwed by the people you vote for, wake up!
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Hey fucktard... how about showing us the MATH behind your idiot statement that the GOP tax cut plans will "take from 98% of the people"???
Wake up! You're a professor, right? That means all of your claims are supported by careful research, study and empirical data!
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12-16-2017, 01:44 PM
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What’s comical is that most redneck republicans because they can afford a truck think they are part of the wealthy. Unless your a millionaire many times over your getting screwed by the people you vote for, wake up!
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What's comical is most of the mega rich are dims
Income tax rates don't address that much at all
Tax rates do affect the small business guy paying the freight who work for a living and for their family's benefit
The rich want all sort of government handouts and don't much care about tax rates, it's quite the reverse than your post, these things are seen by the rich as bulwarks against the riffraff storming their upper east side manhattan palaces
They use the government much like they hire security or buy insurance, but please limit the riffraff's access to the Malibu beach for us, ok?
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12-16-2017, 01:55 PM
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What's comical is most of the mega rich are dims
Income tax rates don't address that much at all
Tax rates do affect the small business guy paying the freight who work for a living and for their family's benefit
The rich want all sort of government handouts and don't much care about tax rates, it's quite the reverse than your post, these things are seen by the rich as bulwarks against the riffraff storming their upper east side manhattan palaces
They use the government much like they hire security or buy insurance, but please limit the riffraff's access to the Malibu beach for us, ok?
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Your right on, republicans are all about redistribution of wealth and handouts, just in a reverse Robin Hood perverted way. They also are for more regulations and government involvement in people’s lives but only the kind that imposed their morality on others. The problem is as I keep saying most republican voters are dimwits that think they somehow are part of the grand Republican plan but they are nothing but pawns and fools.
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12-16-2017, 01:57 PM
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Your right on, republicans are all about redistribution of wealth and handouts, just in a reverse Robin Hood perverted way. They also are for more regulations and government involvement in people’s lives but only the kind that imposed their morality on others. The problem is as I keep saying most republican voters are dimwits that think they somehow are part of the grand Republican plan but they are nothing but pawns and fools.
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Your "logic" escapes me
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12-16-2017, 02:00 PM
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They also are for more regulations and government involvement in people’s lives but only the kind that imposed their morality on others...
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Yes, I agree. That's very annoying about you dim-retards...
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12-16-2017, 02:39 PM
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Yes, I agree. That's very annoying about you dim-retards...

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Republicans don’t care about you at all, they just want you to serve them and make them wealthy, that’s why they always promote the fairy tell called trickle down economics. That’s what we have in this new tax scam, republicans run up debt by giving money to those that don’t need it and the rest of us get screwed.
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12-16-2017, 02:43 PM
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Republicans don’t care about you at all, they just want you to serve them and make them wealthy, that’s why they always promote the fairy tell called trickle down economics. That’s what we have in this new tax scam, republicans run up debt by giving money to those that don’t need it and the rest of us get screwed.
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Democrats certainly don’t care about you. Who would?
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12-16-2017, 02:52 PM
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Republicans don’t care about you at all, they just want you to serve them and make them wealthy, that’s why they always promote the fairy tell (sic) called trickle down economics. That’s what we have in this new tax scam, republicans run up debt by giving money to those that don’t need it and the rest of us get screwed.
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SHOW ME THE MATH, ASSHOLE, SHOW ME THE MATH!
You would think a self-proclaimed "professor" would know the difference between polemical and empirical, wouldn't you?
In what alternate universe is paying less in taxes "getting screwed"?
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12-16-2017, 03:49 PM
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SHOW ME THE MATH, ASSHOLE, SHOW ME THE MATH!
You would think a self-proclaimed "professor" would know the difference between polemical and empirical, wouldn't you?
In what alternate universe is paying less in taxes "getting screwed"?

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In the universe where paying a slight bit less in your taxes causes a trillion dollars worth of future debt and causes your insurance premiums to skyrocket all so that billionaires can pay way less in taxes.
Why not leave the corporate tax rate at 35% and bring individual tax rates way down. Bring the highest personal tax rate down to 21 % instead!
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12-16-2017, 04:44 PM
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In the universe where paying a slight bit less in your taxes causes a trillion dollars worth of future debt and causes your insurance premiums to skyrocket all so that billionaires can pay way less in taxes.
Why not leave the corporate tax rate at 35% and bring individual tax rates way down. Bring the highest personal tax rate down to 21% instead!
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Here's the math and the real story, moron - that "trillion dollars" is what the CBO estimates will be added to the debt OVER 10 YEARS (versus current tax policy), assuming average annual real GDP growth of 1.9%. So yeah, if we remain stuck in odumbo's slow growth rut, the deficit will be roughly $100 billion higher each year. That's 1/200 of our current GDP. If we achieve average growth of 2.6% over the next 10 years, the tax changes will add nothing to the debt.
As for insurance premiums, the overwhelming majority of Americans have health insurance provided by their employers and are not subject to the ACA's individual mandate. If the mandate is repealed, many people who are subject to it will actually find themselves better off. It's a highly regressive penalty - 80% of the households paying it earn less than $50k a year.
Your mindless sputtering that the tax changes will "take from 98% of Americans" is a monstrous lie!
The reason the corporate tax rate needs to be lowered is obvious from this graph:
I don't have a problem with lowering individual rates at a later time, if feasible. The top rate is currently 39.6%. However, if you studied up on these matters you would know that slashing the top individual rate (especially dropping it all the way to 21%) would benefit the wealthiest filers much more than a lower corporate tax rate will. Is that what you want, SStupid?
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12-16-2017, 05:13 PM
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Best part of you "trickled down" your mama's chin, Junior.
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12-16-2017, 05:13 PM
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Why would you waste your time? SStupid is a troll, much like SnitchFuck. Numbers and facts simply don’t matter. The same is true for the rest of the DOTY nominees. It’s a fools errand.
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12-16-2017, 05:19 PM
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Why would you waste your time? SStupid is a troll, much like SnitchFuck. Numbers and facts simply don’t matter. The same is true for the rest of the DOTY nominees. It’s a fools errand.
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It's remedial math. They are the poorly educated ones of whom they complain.
The irony is - wouldn't you expect a "professor" to be intellectually curious, open-minded and eager to learn about these matters?
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