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03-31-2017, 11:13 AM
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Studies have found that using illegals on construction sites results in more work being done because they do the small stuff such as cleaning up the scraps and trash while the skilled workers concentrate on the skilled jobs.
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03-31-2017, 12:14 PM
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In North Caolina agricultural needed 6500 workers for season. 287 non immigrants applied, 143 showed up and 7 stayed until the end of the season. US Agriculture industry is TOTALLY dependent on immigrants with a large percentage illegal. If you clamp down the industry will totally collapse. This comes from the US Farm Bureau and not some quack. All produce would then come from other countries.
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no Fox did story on this yesterday, wages pickers for have gone up to $20.00 to $28.00
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03-31-2017, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BigLouie
In North Caolina agricultural needed 6500 workers for season. 287 non immigrants applied, 143 showed up and 7 stayed until the end of the season. US Agriculture industry is TOTALLY dependent on immigrants with a large percentage illegal. If you clamp down the industry will totally collapse. This comes from the US Farm Bureau and not some quack. All produce would then come from other countries.
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Who would want to do that job at the current wages?
Raise the wages high enough, and every economist will tell you people will do the job.
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03-31-2017, 12:18 PM
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So you want me to hire some druggie?
Wtf is wrong with you?
Btw..have you quit hiring asian women to fuck you?
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I want you to pay legal American workers a fair wage that they will accept. Drug test them if you want.
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03-31-2017, 12:25 PM
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Studies have found that using illegals on construction sites results in more work being done because they do the small stuff such as cleaning up the scraps and trash while the skilled workers concentrate on the skilled jobs.
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From what I have seen at just about any major road construction site in the Houston Gulf Coast Area, most of the skilled jobs are also performed by someone of Mexican or other Latin American Country's origin.
It's the same in any Shipyard, Fabrication Shop, or Housing Project.
There are three major Shipyards in the Houston area from The SanJacinto River to the Turning Basen. The workforce Is 99.9 % Hispanic, including the Superintendents, Foremen, and Leadermen.
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03-31-2017, 04:41 PM
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From what I have seen at just about any major road construction site in the Houston Gulf Coast Area, most of the skilled jobs are also performed by someone of Mexican or other Latin American Country's origin.
It's the same in any Shipyard, Fabrication Shop, or Housing Project.
There are three major Shipyards in the Houston area from The SanJacinto River to the Turning Basen. The workforce Is 99.9 % Hispanic, including the Superintendents, Foremen, and Leadermen.
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And now you know why they will continue with stupid ass wall building. ...the powers that be DO NOT want to fix this so called problem.
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04-03-2017, 01:09 PM
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How about the anchor baby law? Why haven't they changed that?
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There is no anchor baby law....there is no Court decision....government policy makes that happen.
Constitution does not permit anchor babies either. See the requirements of " born in the US AND subject to jurisdiction thereof" clause...
This anchor baby bullshit is new since the 1980's...the liberal filth made this happen...
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04-03-2017, 01:17 PM
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And now you know why they will continue with stupid ass wall building. ...the powers that be DO NOT want to fix this so called problem.
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You are as intelligent as an illegal alien...
Somebody needs to remove all your constitutional rights because you are scum...
and a cum guzzling POS....at least according to everybody else in the world...
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04-03-2017, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Marshall2.0
There is no anchor baby law....there is no Court decision....government policy makes that happen.
Constitution does not permit anchor babies either. See the requirements of " born in the US AND subject to jurisdiction thereof" clause...
This anchor baby bullshit is new since the 1980's...the liberal filth made this happen...
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http://www.politisite.com/2010/08/06...nt-their-will/
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04-03-2017, 04:53 PM
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Marshall knows nothing about the constitution
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04-03-2017, 08:58 PM
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At a February 2 summit hosted by Food Tank, a nonprofit think tank focused on food policy, researchers, chefs, and policy makers expressed concern over the effects Trump's potential immigration restrictions could have on American farms.
"If we were to engage in massive deportations, our agricultural system would collapse," said Bruce Goldstein, the president of Farmworker Justice, a nonprofit that aims to improve farmers' living and working conditions.
Of the 1.5 to 2 million people working in agriculture today, at least 50% to 70% of farm workers are undocumented immigrants, according to a recent report by the American Farm Bureau Federation (AFBF). If the US were to deport a significant portion of them, the move could result in labor and food production shortages, Goldstein said.
The Trump administration's draft plans follow up on his campaign promises to crack down on immigration as a way to protect and create jobs for American workers — Trump has suggested that low-skilled immigration has reduced wages and job availability for US citizens, and that current immigration policies to not sufficiently prioritize American jobs. (Studies have generally found that not to be true, however.)
The AFBF report suggests that agricultural laborers would be hard to replace because of how grueling the work is —12-hour shifts in 100-degree weather (without overtime pay) are common. And relying on automated systems over human workers would be expensive for farm owners, especially on smaller farms, Goldstein says.
A large-scale labor shortage could therefore lead to a 5% to 6% jump in food prices for consumers, the report says.
"The majority of farm workers in this country are undocumented. We need them, we should respect them, and we should grant them the chance to have an immigration status and a path to citizenship," Goldstein said. "If we don't figure that out, agriculture is in trouble."
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04-03-2017, 11:12 PM
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
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Originally Posted by BigLouie
At a February 2 summit hosted by Food Tank, a nonprofit think tank focused on food policy, researchers, chefs, and policy makers expressed concern over the effects Trump's potential immigration restrictions could have on American farms.
"If we were to engage in massive deportations, our agricultural system would collapse," said Bruce Goldstein, the president of Farmworker Justice, a nonprofit that aims to improve farmers' living and working conditions.
Of the 1.5 to 2 million people working in agriculture today, at least 50% to 70% of farm workers are undocumented immigrants, according to a recent report by the American Farm Bureau Federation (AFBF). If the US were to deport a significant portion of them, the move could result in labor and food production shortages, Goldstein said.
The Trump administration's draft plans follow up on his campaign promises to crack down on immigration as a way to protect and create jobs for American workers — Trump has suggested that low-skilled immigration has reduced wages and job availability for US citizens, and that current immigration policies to not sufficiently prioritize American jobs. (Studies have generally found that not to be true, however.)
The AFBF report suggests that agricultural laborers would be hard to replace because of how grueling the work is —12-hour shifts in 100-degree weather (without overtime pay) are common. And relying on automated systems over human workers would be expensive for farm owners, especially on smaller farms, Goldstein says.
A large-scale labor shortage could therefore lead to a 5% to 6% jump in food prices for consumers, the report says.
"The majority of farm workers in this country are undocumented. We need them, we should respect them, and we should grant them the chance to have an immigration status and a path to citizenship," Goldstein said. "If we don't figure that out, agriculture is in trouble."
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Any such rise in food costs will be off set by money not spent on perpetual unemployment for those forced out of the labor market by illegals who are depressing wages and money not spent on providing social services for illegals who now overburden the system.
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04-04-2017, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackie S
Make it a Felony for a business or individule to employ anybody that is in the Country illegally.
If Immigration Officials visit a job site and find illegals, leave them be. Go to the headquarters of the business and haul the BOD out in handcuffs. Throw them in County Lockup.
Ignorance is no defence. It is up to a employer to insure the employees are in this Country legally.
If you stop feeding a stray cat, it will leave.
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No, ignorance IS a defense to a felony.
Ignorance of the law ("I didn't know it was illegal to hire illegal immigrants") is no excuse, but ignorance of the facts ("I didn't know THIS person was an illegal") IS an excuse.
Absolute liability only applies to one felony - sex with a minor. All other absolute liability crimes are misdemeanors - typically with only money as a penalty.
How exactly is a business supposed to KNOW is someone is illegal? If they present a fake but convincing ID, how can you punish the company?
The company can only be held responsible if they intentionally disregard the law. And the CEO has to KNOW. You can't put the CEO in jail if some low-level foreman gave a job to his illegal alien brother in law.
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04-04-2017, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BigLouie
"The majority of farm workers in this country are undocumented. We need them, we should respect them, and we should grant them the chance to have an immigration status and a path to citizenship," Goldstein said. "If we don't figure that out, agriculture is in trouble."
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that type of labor would be replaced by automation in time. the farmers are just dragging their feet over it.
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04-04-2017, 07:07 AM
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Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by Revenant
You can't put the CEO in jail if some low-level foreman gave a job to his illegal alien brother in law.
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Yes, you can.
Many CEO's are compensated with salaries that are incomprehensible to most.
With that come the ultimate responsibility of obeying the law.
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