For Fucks Sake.

[Claire She Blows]

Originally Posted by The Infamous One

In order to offend someone, they must first value your opinion.

Exactly. And NO ONE values his opinion, nor his wallet.

[3daygetaway]

As always, his position bares consideration, just not his delivery. The rates have increased dramatically in the last few years, and his comments reflect a common theme from the men's lounge: especially when seeing a girl for the first time, an hhr is a mitigated risk and an "interview" for future encounters, not unlike a trip to the stage before ordering a lap dance.

Per the OP's concerns: sorry the junk was dirty. If it's going poorly, maybe try gently suggesting we need to either wrap up or reschedule another date. If things are going well and staying and extending the visit is an option, add it as one. If a guy balks, send him on his way: never forget, our brains are switched off at that point--if we want more we'll get back in touch!

[justaphase]

It seems to me it's a vocal minority of men complaining about rates. The silent majority has no problem paying the requested amounts, hence the reason the providers keep charging them. I guarantee you, if enough men weren't paying the requested amounts, the requested amounts would have to be lowered.

The free market sets the rates, not 5 or 6 guys here. It's capitalism at its finest.

[3daygetaway]

Or, it's class warfare at its finest. A separate class of providers for a disparate set of clients: a tale of two cities

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by Claire She Blows

Exactly. And NO ONE values his opinion, nor his wallet.

LMAO!..... Whores that read ECCIE and pay attention to board personalities are vastly outnumbered by whores that want to make money.... There are far more P4P players than advertise or are members here.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by The Infamous One

I am happy to elaborate, darling.

My first clue would be the obvious lack of hygiene. My second clue would be the "I like to make it last as long as possible" comment, mid session, after scheduling a bng. Another clue would be continually trying to stop you from making him climax during a bng. Once or twice in a few minutes okay not a big deal. But trying to staying over more than a few extra minutes when doing a quick session is just a dick move. I'm not one to watch a clock either. I never have been and I know how to pace a session.

Well.... If you are obviously dealing with a guy being a dick then by all means let him know there is a clock that is ticking. You are the professional in the room and if a guy stays beyond his allotted time it's because you allow it. There is no shortage of guys that will take advantage of your generosity.

I've been guilty of overstaying my time more than a few times over the years.... I'm there to have a good time and if I am I forget about the time.... I'll stay as long as someone lets me.....


I'm generous and usually docile until someone tries to take advantage. And it's happened a few times. Not just once. My three biggest pet peeves are trying to take someone's kindness for weakness, underestimating/insulting my intelligence by trying to get over on me and being stinky & haggling.

There are always going to be "those guys".... You've probably come to realize that by now. It will never matter how nice you try to be..... "Those" guys will take advantage of everyone all the time..... Do you think ranting about it here makes a difference to them? It probably doesn't but it puts you in a light seen by others....

How would you know what my level of enthusiasm is? Just curious. Lol.

I don't have a clue..... The way you phrased the statement though made it seem ridiculous that a guy could get into overtime having an enthusiastic session.

I try to practice careful consideration in most matters these days. But no. Just no. Not in the several 30 minute sessions I have done. They have turned out to be the same type of clientele. Guys that truly are quick are no problem. I get it. I can accommodate that, sometimes. But the other stuff is just bs.

I can't really say what a 30 minute session is like..... I've always thought it was probably a bit like you are describing.... getting rode non stop by guys with something to prove..... I prefer to get to know someone and enjoy myself more than once and prefer 2 hours at a minimum so I look for those type of opportunities....

"Hooker Math" is a subject that gets a lot of press..... Higher rates for half hours yields more money? At what cost?... You seem unhappy....

How much time is spent preparing? How much do you have to leave for "overtime? play? How much time to get ready for the next guy?

Logic seems to dictate that a gal charging $160 for a HH might see 2 clients in a 2 hour window..... But from posts like yours and reviews it seems you get rode long and hard through most of those sessions.....

Maybe your ideal client could be found offering a $350 2 hour rate? What kind of guy would want that? Maybe someone that wants a couple of pops and the ability to relax a little before and in-between pops..... He is probably not as pressed to "perform" in that time frame....

It would seem a much easier and pleasant way to make the same money.... but ...... who is better off at the end of an 8 hour day? one that sees 6 HH guys or someone that sees 3 2 hour guys.....

It's your business.... I'm just pointing out a segment of the market not addressed by others and you are dropping that from your menu.........

[The Infamous One]

That was an insightful response. It gave me a different perspective. Yes. In fact, I am much happier with my previous GFE rate structure that caters to clients who want longer dates and rewards regulars! I changed my rate structure to reflect that. Good idea! I've never been a good "quickie" girl. I only have 16 reviews in 8 months and most of those are fbsm. I'm not out in the pasture just yet!

Sorry I had to vent y'all. I don't wanna get resentful and burned out or bust out with the chankla...

I haven't had a good meltdown in over a year. Rofl. I was due one, dammit!

Moving on...

[Jeffrey Spaulding]

Tio, a provider I have been see for 2 plus years just had q similar event. To make the story short the guy was nice on the phone, arrived and turned to a jerk. Start3d asking about hh prices, then asked,about an hour. He agreed to the hour. After the session was over he gives her the,hh amount. The was a,new,customer and she admits should have got the money up,front. To add insult to injury me was he,didn't get a,bj which was never discusses. He will probably write a,bad review. There are other details I am leaving our that further add to,his,bad behavior

[spank_my_monkey76]

LOL... Not the chankla... Remember those spankings!!

[Guest072619]

I need a spanking

[The Infamous One]

Don't give Eryn a fork. She'll fucking stick you with it! She carries one in her purse for occasions where I act up. Rofl.

[The Infamous One]

She got a chankla, whistle, wooden spoon and a fork!

[tzv13]

Are you offering a chankla special?

[Guest072619]

She's not kidding.. I've had to jab her in the thigh several times.. Until karma got me and I stabbed myself with it by accident at the gym LMAO

[Observing]

Originally Posted by Whispers

I can't really say what a 30 minute session is like..... I've always thought it was probably a bit like you are describing.... getting rode non stop by guys with something to prove..... I prefer to get to know someone and enjoy myself more than once and prefer 2 hours at a minimum so I look for those type of opportunities....

"Hooker Math" is a subject that gets a lot of press..... Higher rates for half hours yields more money? At what cost?... You seem unhappy....

How much time is spent preparing? How much do you have to leave for "overtime? play? How much time to get ready for the next guy?

Logic seems to dictate that a gal charging $160 for a HH might see 2 clients in a 2 hour window..... But from posts like yours and reviews it seems you get rode long and hard through most of those sessions.....

Maybe your ideal client could be found offering a $350 2 hour rate? What kind of guy would want that? Maybe someone that wants a couple of pops and the ability to relax a little before and in-between pops..... He is probably not as pressed to "perform" in that time frame....

It would seem a much easier and pleasant way to make the same money.... but ...... who is better off at the end of an 8 hour day? one that sees 6 HH guys or someone that sees 3 2 hour guys.....

It's your business.... I'm just pointing out a segment of the market not addressed by others and you are dropping that from your menu.........

"Maybe your ideal client could be found offering a $350 2 hour rate? What kind of guy would want that? Maybe someone that wants a couple of pops and the ability to relax a little before and in-between pops..... He is probably not as pressed to "perform" in that time frame...."

You pontificate and advise like Big Mack Daddy...



Just the other day you posted this:
"Yup... Got 2 hours scheduled for tomorrow afternoon...."
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1910122&page=4

Please share your personal experience with all of us mere mortals and tell us how we should negotiate and slay all this pussy at a fair price point.