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Old 12-02-2016, 06:54 PM   #16
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It has not been the military arm that decided not to win.
Fact. I'll get mugged around here for saying so, but Bush pussied out and couldn't stomach it before finishing the job. Anybody can start a war, it takes a special type of man to finish one.
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Old 12-02-2016, 07:39 PM   #17
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Holy shit! He actually did it! This guy is a rip your head off and shit down the necks of our enemies type of Marine. I hope Trump unleashes him.

Looks like the Middle East just got their notice.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...D=ansmsnnews11

Some favorite quotes:

"I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I'll kill you all."

"We've backed off in good faith to try and give you a chance to straighten this problem out. But I am going to beg with you for a minute. I'm going to plead with you, do not cross us. Because if you do, the survivors will write about what we do here for 10,000 years."

"I don't lose any sleep at night over the potential for failure. I cannot even spell the word."

"Find the enemy that wants to end this experiment (in American democracy) and kill every one of them until they're so sick of the killing that they leave us and our freedoms intact."

And my favorite

"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling."
There's a new Sherriff in town and his name is Mad Dog Mattis ! Woe be unto those " stirring the shit " , like the Iranians in the Straits of Hormuz ! GET SOME, MARINE !!!! It'll be nice to have a Sec. Def. that's isn't worried about staffing the ranks with Trannies who had their " conversion " surgery paid for on the taxpayers dime during a 3 or 4 year enlistment ! Or worried about ensuring " gender neutral " latrines or heads at all military facilities to the expense of training in REAL war fighting skills.
Or one that doesn't DEMAND that the military buy biofuels at above market rates to pay off the climate change SOB's.
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Old 12-02-2016, 11:42 PM   #18
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Grenada 1984 (lol). Kuwait 1991. Serbia 1999.

"War is a continuation of policy by other means." - von Clausewitz
What did we "win" in Grenada and Serbia? Are those really points of pride for America after getting shellacked in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan? Hell, the Korean War is still going, and you want to brag about Grenada?


And we weren't ever at war with Kuwait. We were fighting Iraq. How'd that work out?
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Old 12-03-2016, 06:55 AM   #19
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What did we "win" in Grenada and Serbia? Are those really points of pride for America after getting shellacked in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan? Hell, the Korean War is still going, and you want to brag about Grenada?


And we weren't ever at war with Kuwait. We were fighting Iraq. How'd that work out?
Not in total agreement (word for word) but a more accurate analysis.

Korea is a "cease fire" as well.
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Old 12-03-2016, 07:43 AM   #20
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Love all the bureaucratic responses, but the only measurement of winning in an American Marine's mind is when you have killed them ALL, or what is left no longer has the will to fight and are on their knees begging you to stop.

We haven't won anything since Japan was kneeling before us.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:14 AM   #21
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Love all the bureaucratic responses, but the only measurement of winning in an American Marine's mind is when you have killed them ALL, or what is left no longer has the will to fight and are on their knees begging you to stop.

We haven't won anything since Japan was kneeling before us.
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:11 AM   #22
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Mad Dog is 1000% bout it bout it bout it. This dude dont play. Plus unlike most Secretaries of Defense that I know, Mad Dog has actually fought in wars as in plural. He must get his waiver. Im no Republican,but I applaud Trump for this appointment.

PS: Mad Dog likes Brawling. You cant make this shit up
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Old 12-03-2016, 11:49 AM   #23
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We haven't won anything since Japan was kneeling before us.
That was because we used "the bombs" on them, and they thought we had more to drop AND WOULD USE THEM, which they did not want to experience after they did some cursory damage assessment. The current pussy in the White House IS OWNED BY THE WORLD as a PUSSY. They have been convinced by his own indecision and inaction that he won't.
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Old 12-03-2016, 12:29 PM   #24
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I challenge any of you to point out any significant actual military conflicts that the USA lost. As you read this we still have troops in Germany, Japan, and Korea. The USSR stared the USA in the face in Cuba and backed the fuck down. Yet we still have enough Nukes in Turkey to make Russia glow for 20,000 years. I would not bet against the USA.
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Old 12-03-2016, 12:39 PM   #25
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I would not bet against the USA.
I didn't see anyone on here "betting against the USA."

The REAL discussion on Sunday afternoon is not whether this or that team is "better equipped" ... it REALLY is which team came TO PLAY!

It doesn't matter what we have in "the holster" as long as the other guy "KNOWS" we won't "pull"! It usually means we'll have to.

What type of "image" does this country portray to the World when we have whining, snotty nosed little brats balling their swollen little eyes red because A WOMAN didn't elected as President?

We can have 100,000 warheads cocked and locked ... so what?

The media shows this country is a grab bag of wimpy little pussies... to match the whiny little bitch still in the White House! (Whose about to get an intellectual ball-gag!)
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Old 12-03-2016, 06:11 PM   #26
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Fact. I'll get mugged around here for saying so, but Bush pussied out and couldn't stomach it before finishing the job. Anybody can start a war, it takes a special type of man to finish one.
Why would you be mugged? I was in that war and Bush didn't finish it. At the very least Schwarzkopf should ridden an armored column down the main street of Baghdad with gun ships flying overhead providing musical accompaniment.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:15 PM   #27
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What did we "win" in Grenada and Serbia? Are those really points of pride for America after getting shellacked in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan? Hell, the Korean War is still going, and you want to brag about Grenada?


And we weren't ever at war with Kuwait. We were fighting Iraq. How'd that work out?
COG I'm going to have to disagree with this part of your comment(shellacked in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan)we won the battles the dick heads in Washington lost the wars
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:56 PM   #28
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COG I'm going to have to disagree with this part of your comment(shellacked in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan)we won the battles the dick heads in Washington lost the wars
Can't wait to see " Mad Dog " meet with some of the " career " libs at DOD and address their REMF behavior like an old Gunny ! The " Mad Dog " will be using them like a fire plug ! Bet there's a lot of those career libs looking for a new line of work about now. After they get control of their incontinence ( which prolly started with the announcement of Mattis' nomination ! ) ! OOH RAH ! GET SOME !!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:18 PM   #29
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Can't wait to see " Mad Dog " meet with some of the " career " libs at DOD and address their REMF behavior like an old Gunny ! The " Mad Dog " will be using them like a fire plug ! Bet there's a lot of those career libs looking for a new line of work about now. After they get control of their incontinence ( which prolly started with the announcement of Mattis' nomination ! ) ! OOH RAH ! GET SOME !!!!!!!!!
Always nice to hear someone babble about things they clearly don't understand.

But that is what everyone has come to expect from the King, so no surprise.
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:45 PM   #30
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I am opposed to war. Almost all war. But if you must have a war, fight the goddam thing to win. Maybe Mattis will do that. We haven't won a war since 1945. All because we weren't willing to win.
There will always be a liberal to turn our soldiers into victims, have empathy for the enemy and poison our resolve.
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