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09-30-2016, 09:57 AM
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Here we go with the "providers' feelings aren't real because they are getting paid" foolishness.
According to those who seem to have forgotten that this is a client/sex worker site and not PlentyofFish or Tinder, it seems like the getting paid aspect is what categorically negates sex workers' authenticity and capacity to feel real feelings (with their clients).
Based on this logic
- chefs don't really care about cooking their patrons delicious and safe to consume meals because they get paid
- pilots don't really care about making sure you get from one point to the next safely because they get paid
- educators don't really care about imparting knowledge to their students because they get paid
- surgeons don't really care about performing operations and improving the health and well being of their patients because they get paid
- fire fighters don't really care about risking their lives to save people and property because they get paid
This mistrust and disbelief that prostitutes can actually consent, enjoy their work and clients, and experience pleasure during their work at least some of the time is shared by obstinate evangelical Jesus freaks and policy makers who fixate on saving whores from themselves. When regional hooker boards, local strip clubs, etc are getting shut down left and right, the densest of y'all will be scratching your head and missing the connection between the whorephobia you gleefully perpetuate and state agents cracking down on all of us. And I don't wish it to be so, but when there is an upswing in "end demand" style client criminalization in the not too distant future, I bet y'all will be singing a different tune.
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09-30-2016, 10:01 AM
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Join Date: Feb 21, 2013
Location: US
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I do not believe this is a wise idea on either ends. keep it business only, once you cross that bridge to freebies then you are dating.
are you going to leave your wife for an escort? this isn't the movie Pretty Woman here.
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09-30-2016, 10:18 AM
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Join Date: Dec 17, 2009
Location: "Hobbyverse"
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Interesting discussion and discourse.
imo the OP has a definite reason for asking the question, but, be that as it may,
yes, hobbyists and providers are humans, complete with all the emotions, feelings and issues that are typical of the species.
That said, some (certainly not many and definitely not all) very sane (underscore sane) hobbyists/providers are able to enjoy meeting with others in the community to engage in normal in-public relations (not relationships, for the sake of this discussion) without compromising their own rules of engagement. And by "normal" I also include at times sexual relations, again, not relationships.
By normal, I refer to folks being able to go ou in public to enjoy a film, a lunch, a drink, a social gathering, without having to explain to "civilians" any of the usual questions that might impinge on hobbying.
in my very personal opinion, despite many disclaimers, I seriously doubt many hobbyists/providers are able to maintain cordial relations (not relationships!) off the clock without conflictions.
As to OTC relationships, I have known of more than a few, including several that ended up in enduring relationships (even a marriage or two or three); but again, very few relatively speaking.
To stay sane, imo, hobby folks have a real need to have real, human FUN outside the bedroom and outside the hobby.
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09-30-2016, 10:25 AM
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Join Date: Aug 1, 2016
Location: St. Louis MO
Posts: 249
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Originally Posted by Lena Duvall
Here we go with the "providers' feelings aren't real because they are getting paid" foolishness.
According to those who seem to have forgotten that this is a client/sex worker site and not PlentyofFish or Tinder, it seems like the getting paid aspect is what categorically negates sex workers' authenticity and capacity to feel real feelings (with their clients).
Based on this logic
- chefs don't really care about cooking their patrons delicious and safe to consume meals because they get paid
- pilots don't really care about making sure you get from one point to the next safely because they get paid
- educators don't really care about imparting knowledge to their students because they get paid
- surgeons don't really care about performing operations and improving the health and well being of their patients because they get paid
- fire fighters don't really care about risking their lives to save people and property because they get paid
This mistrust and disbelief that prostitutes can actually consent, enjoy their work and clients, and experience pleasure during their work at least some of the time is shared by obstinate evangelical Jesus freaks and policy makers who fixate on saving whores from themselves. When regional hooker boards, local strip clubs, etc are getting shut down left and right, the densest of y'all will be scratching your head and missing the connection between the whorephobia you gleefully perpetuate and state agents cracking down on all of us. And I don't wish it to be so, but when there is an upswing in "end demand" style client criminalization in the not too distant future, I bet y'all will be singing a different tune.
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Great post, well stated!
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09-30-2016, 01:45 PM
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Join Date: Feb 16, 2010
Location: Inside beautiful women.
Posts: 4,028
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The provider that is willing to see you BCD off the clock and off the books can very well tell you to never to call them again if their situation changes for whatever reason. So never assume that you permanently have the keys to the kingdom.
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09-30-2016, 02:36 PM
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Permanently retired
Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 7,518
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Originally Posted by ugotme10
The provider that is willing to see you BCD off the clock and off the books can very well tell you to never to call them again if their situation changes for whatever reason. So never assume that you permanently have the keys to the kingdom.
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That is pretty much true in any intimate relationship between a man and a woman, whether the payments are purely monetary (escorts), or the consideration is non-monetary (wife/girlfriend) or not exclusively monetary (sugar baby?).
Cheers,
bcg
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09-30-2016, 06:01 PM
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Join Date: Aug 5, 2010
Location: Houston Area
Posts: 6,207
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Every provider tells me that I was the first to ever give her an orgasm . . .and I believe it.
Then they tell me how big my equipment is (it isn't) and how well I use it (Oh—c'MON!).
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10-01-2016, 03:06 AM
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Join Date: May 18, 2014
Location: San Antonio
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There is no reason for that to be an unpopular answer. It is completely your call--you decide IF, What, and When.
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It's because it's an answer that is neither hot nor cold so gets spat out.
The correct answer if I was a no-nonsense street smart lady would be, "Nothing is free and she's setting you up for a longer game if she tricks you into thinking it is."
If I was all about positivity and fuzzy feelings I'd go on a tear about how providers are people too and how upsetting it is that hobbyists are always waiting for the other shoe to drop are not seeing providers and real women with real hearts and desires.
If I wanted to be some brown nosing white princess then I'd gush about how my suitors are so WONDERFUL and AMAZING that I can't be blamed for forgetting myself and letting my FIERY PASSION take me over sometimes.   
See what I mean?
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10-01-2016, 07:24 AM
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Join Date: Aug 20, 2010
Location: From hotel to hotel
Posts: 9,058
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I understand what you are saying--however hot, cold, and warm all have their place.
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10-02-2016, 12:20 AM
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Join Date: Jan 28, 2015
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Posts: 2,407
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Lena... I am falling in luv with you... Your posts are perfectly stated!
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10-02-2016, 03:58 PM
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Hot, Smooth & Full-Bodied
User ID: 57609
Join Date: Dec 2, 2010
Location: D.C. based (but I get around)
Posts: 7,917
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Originally Posted by Lena Duvall
Here we go with the "providers' feelings aren't real because they are getting paid" foolishness.
According to those who seem to have forgotten that this is a client/sex worker site and not PlentyofFish or Tinder, it seems like the getting paid aspect is what categorically negates sex workers' authenticity and capacity to feel real feelings (with their clients).
Based on this logic
- chefs don't really care about cooking their patrons delicious and safe to consume meals because they get paid
- pilots don't really care about making sure you get from one point to the next safely because they get paid
- educators don't really care about imparting knowledge to their students because they get paid
- surgeons don't really care about performing operations and improving the health and well being of their patients because they get paid
- fire fighters don't really care about risking their lives to save people and property because they get paid
This mistrust and disbelief that prostitutes can actually consent, enjoy their work and clients, and experience pleasure during their work at least some of the time is shared by obstinate evangelical Jesus freaks and policy makers who fixate on saving whores from themselves. When regional hooker boards, local strip clubs, etc are getting shut down left and right, the densest of y'all will be scratching your head and missing the connection between the whorephobia you gleefully perpetuate and state agents cracking down on all of us. And I don't wish it to be so, but when there is an upswing in "end demand" style client criminalization in the not too distant future, I bet y'all will be singing a different tune.
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10-02-2016, 05:20 PM
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Join Date: Dec 24, 2010
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She wanted money
No whore is going to contact you for free.
They are in the business of sex and they will say that to get to your gullible little mind.
You paid her for the sex as she was expecting.
I bet she sent that test to 20 other guys and made bank of the people that really think they are horny.
Next time replace broke with horny and you have your answer.
"Oh baby, I am really broke and want to see you"
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10-08-2016, 03:27 PM
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User ID: 344569
Join Date: Apr 14, 2016
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I get horny in all of my sessions  There is sex involved so it's kind of a normal reaction
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10-08-2016, 03:52 PM
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Join Date: Apr 30, 2016
Location: Anaheim
Posts: 341
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I'm going to have to agree with the consensus here. She needs the money. Think of all the girlfriends/wives you've had. Did they ever text you about how horny they were? Or did you have to beg for it after whatever excuse they tried to give you. Too tired, that time of month, not in the mood etc.
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10-08-2016, 08:03 PM
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Join Date: May 21, 2014
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Thank you!
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Lena... I am falling in luv with you... Your posts are perfectly stated!
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