Is Provider Out and Hooker In? What the what?

[Dorian Gray]

Words have no power other than what you give to them. It this case provider, hooker, whore, & escort are all the correct term to use. It's your choice to take them offensively or not.

[Alyssa Marie]

Originally Posted by ck1942

In any case, it is not always the word itself, but the tone in which it is applied.

yuppppppers! that about sums it up.

[Alyssa Marie]

Originally Posted by Dorian Gray

Words have no power other than what you give to them. It this case provider, hooker, whore, & escort are all the correct term to use. It's your choice to take them offensively or not.

you can say that all that you want, but... its not always true.

some people use the word "bitch" as an endearing term. how would you feel if someone called your mom a bitch, your wife a bitch, your daughter a bitch...
one time? whatever.. but if your daughter dated a person who referred to his significant other as a "bitch" eventually you would get sick of it. who wouldnt.

obviously words matter, or we wouldnt have a big issue referred to as "bullying."
xoxo

[Dorian Gray]

Please point out all these bullies & bully threads

[Alyssa Marie]

would you not care if your daughters boyfriend referred to her as "his bitch."

[Old-T]

No, it has not all of a sudden become a term of endearment. Yes, there are too many guys who use it as part of their campaign to tell the world that they are big, bad mysoginists and they believe that women in general are an inferior subspecies.

Originally Posted by Kelly TNT

Ive been in this business a long time so call me old school. But, I've never heard er... Read so many "Gentlemen" (hmmmm.... Nope, that doesn't sound right) use the term Hooker as they do now. Call me crazy but, the last time I checked.... That was a negative terminology.

Someone referred to me as a "Hook" in a thread once ....at the same time he was paying me a compliment. Client: "Yeah, I emailed that Hook. She was really cool. I may have to hit that.".




Ummmmmm Thank you?


So, is being thought of or referred to as a Provider just a thing of the past? Because if so.... I prefer Hot Slut over Hooker.. Just sayin.


~Kelly TNT

[JohnnyYanks]

When did they stop teaching "sticks and stones"?

[Solitaire]

I am a Polyamorous Woman, who engages and interacts with men, and who actually has the audacity to believe that if a man wants the privilege of my time and energy (companionship), well, then he needs to invest in it.

Because, as it is always thrown in our face - It really is for the children. They are my priority. And because of that, my time and energy are sacred. I have mouths to feed and heads to roof.

There's many things I can be doing with any particular block of my time. I could be gardening to feed my family the healthiest food available. I could be making us a home-cooked nutritious meal. I could be educating them or myself (or both) in one of our varied shared interests. I could be engaging in one of my other businesses. I could simply be snuggled with them on the couch watching TV. Or I could be spending time with a gentlemen.

Each of those activities inherently gives back to me as much as it takes from me, except for the last. For the last option to be equitable, I have to structure it to be so. And so I do.

I know my value. And it's not the amount of the donation. That $ amount is simply what it would take to break me away from any of those other activities listed. And often enough, those other activities win out.

I know my label. I am a woman plain and simple. And I am no different than any other woman on the planet, regardless of what holy and sacred names society applies to "those women" to separate how they go about the male/female interaction from how I go about it. Some are content with just dinner... I can cook my own dinner, probably better.

Some ladies, recognizing that we are indeed all the same, have chosen to embrace derogatory labels, as an exercise of empowerment. There was a discussion recently among the ladies, and I'll end this post sharing my own thoughts here:

Originally Posted by Solitaire

While you ladies are technically right in that there is no real difference between any of us, unfortunately perceptions dictate something completely different. And it's these perceptions that we have to contend with on a daily basis.

For me, it goes hand in hand with the saying "people treat you how you let them treat you." They also treat you however you let them label you. People treat a woman labeled as "wife" very differently than they do someone that they label "whore", even though their interactions with men are basically the same. Cultural changes in whorearchy perceptions, and how we divvy up our female class structure, will never change that basic fact.

A chosen label will set the perception of value. Therefore, I'm a Courtesan, a Companion, a Mistress, a Lover, a Friend, a Woman or a Lady... Escort is even acceptable... any man thinking I'm a Whore, Ho, Slut, Cunt, Bitch, etc, will never be awarded the privilege of my time or energy, at any price.

Semantics matter, unfortunately.

[countrycurious]

Originally Posted by Solitaire

I am a Polyamorous Woman, who engages and interacts with men, and who actually has the audacity to believe that if a man wants the privilege of my time and energy (companionship), well, then he needs to invest in it.

Because, as it is always thrown in our face - It really is for the children. They are my priority. And because of that, my time and energy are sacred. I have mouths to feed and heads to roof.

There's many things I can be doing with any particular block of my time. I could be gardening to feed my family the healthiest food available. I could be making us a home-cooked nutritious meal. I could be educating them or myself (or both) in one of our varied shared interests. I could be engaging in one of my other businesses. I could simply be snuggled with them on the couch watching TV. Or I could be spending time with a gentlemen.

Each of those activities inherently gives back to me as much as it takes from me, except for the last. For the last option to be equitable, I have to structure it to be so. And so I do.

I know my value. And it's not the amount of the donation. That $ amount is simply what it would take to break me away from any of those other activities listed. And often enough, those other activities win out.

I know my label. I am a woman plain and simple. And I am no different than any other woman on the planet, regardless of what holy and sacred names society applies to "those women" to separate how they go about the male/female interaction from how I go about it. Some are content with just dinner... I can cook my own dinner, probably better.

Some ladies, recognizing that we are indeed all the same, have chosen to embrace derogatory labels, as an exercise of empowerment. There was a discussion recently among the ladies, and I'll end this post sharing my own thoughts here:

no horse in this race but thank you. This is the type of reply that leads me to believe a lady can still respect herself and be in this business for the adventure

[Buying a *Way to Heaven]

I always thought "hooker" was a neutral term, like "provider", while the legalistic and clinically contemptuous "prostitute" has more negative connotations.

Anyway it's interesting that we have dozens of mostly derogatory words for hookers, strumpets, harlots, whores, etc. but the worst for clients are "john" and "trick". This tells us where the hostility to the trade is really coming from - wives who want to keep their meal ticket on a leash but are in no wise eager to blame him (let alone themselves) for their inability to keep him satisfied.

[RafaelH]

the worst for clients are "john" and "trick"

I'd say the worst for clients is "arrested"!

I refer to them as lady, date, or woman. I see no difference between the women in the hobby and those out of it. Tell me the difference between a woman advertising here and a woman who wants to know what king of car you drive before she'll go out on date with you. The one's out of the hobby just haven't been offered the right donation yet.

[Kelly TNT]

Originally Posted by Solitaire

I am a Polyamorous Woman, who engages and interacts with men, and who actually has the audacity to believe that if a man wants the privilege of my time and energy (companionship), well, then he needs to invest in it.

Because, as it is always thrown in our face - It really is for the children. They are my priority. And because of that, my time and energy are sacred. I have mouths to feed and heads to roof.

There's many things I can be doing with any particular block of my time. I could be gardening to feed my family the healthiest food available. I could be making us a home-cooked nutritious meal. I could be educating them or myself (or both) in one of our varied shared interests. I could be engaging in one of my other businesses. I could simply be snuggled with them on the couch watching TV. Or I could be spending time with a gentlemen.

Each of those activities inherently gives back to me as much as it takes from me, except for the last. For the last option to be equitable, I have to structure it to be so. And so I do.

I know my value. And it's not the amount of the donation. That $ amount is simply what it would take to break me away from any of those other activities listed. And often enough, those other activities win out.

I know my label. I am a woman plain and simple. And I am no different than any other woman on the planet, regardless of what holy and sacred names society applies to "those women" to separate how they go about the male/female interaction from how I go about it. Some are content with just dinner... I can cook my own dinner, probably better.

Some ladies, recognizing that we are indeed all the same, have chosen to embrace derogatory labels, as an exercise of empowerment. There was a discussion recently among the ladies, and I'll end this post sharing my own thoughts here:


Originally Posted by Solitaire
While you ladies are technically right in that there is no real difference between any of us, unfortunately perceptions dictate something completely different. And it's these perceptions that we have to contend with on a daily basis.

For me, it goes hand in hand with the saying "people treat you how you let them treat you." They also treat you however you let them label you. People treat a woman labeled as "wife" very differently than they do someone that they label "whore", even though their interactions with men are basically the same. Cultural changes in whorearchy perceptions, and how we divvy up our female class structure, will never change that basic fact.

A chosen label will set the perception of value. Therefore, I'm a Courtesan, a Companion, a Mistress, a Lover, a Friend, a Woman or a Lady... Escort is even acceptable... any man thinking I'm a Whore, Ho, Slut, Cunt, Bitch, etc, will never be awarded the privilege of my time or energy, at any price.

Semantics matter, unfortunately.

And THAT RIGHT THERE
is the difference.


I HOBBY WUV YOU

~Kelly TNT

[Kelly TNT]

Originally Posted by pyramider

I busted out ... they took away my finger paints.

What are ... damn it.
Stop it. You're killing me.

Go your room.

~Kelly TNT

[Wakeup]

Originally Posted by Kelly TNT

Call me crazy but, the last time I checked.... That was a negative terminology.

It's what you are...a hooker, prostitute, whore, escort, provider...everyone of those words is the exact same. It's what we are, tricks, johns, hobbyists...

It's only negative because you say it's negative...you're the one with the problem, not the person saying it...

My advice is to stop being the problem for yourself, by caring what someone else labels you...labels are irrelevant, until you give them power over you...so stop doing it...

[Danielle Reid]

Call me a hooker, call me a whore, just make sure the payment is correct when you hand it over