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05-25-2016, 12:00 AM
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Wrong. Capitalists have demonstrated they can exist without unionized workers; whereas, unionized workers demonstrably cannot exist with capitalist employers.
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No one has answered my question. Where are the enlightened people?
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05-25-2016, 12:18 AM
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There's nothing.
Edit. We did have full employment during slavery.
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The same can be asked of the Left. Let's see, Food Stamps, WIC, Welfare, Affirmative Action, Voting Rights for those with no ID, Assigned to a Public Defender when arrested at no charge, open borders undocumented immigration. I guess that's it. Oh wait, Malt Liquor, lol.
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05-25-2016, 12:21 AM
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No one has answered my question. Where are the enlightened people?
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I answered it!
The right wing also gave us Mormons!
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05-25-2016, 12:55 AM
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Seriously guys, I'm trying to think this through. How have right wingers helped us? Without getting into racist shit.
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05-25-2016, 01:16 AM
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Odumbo giving weapons to Mexican drug cartels; spying on reporters and average U.S. citizens; etc. That's your "left-wing" agenda, and that's definitely not progress.
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The concept of "gun running" started with Bush43. ![Shock1](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/shock1.gif) It was called operation "wide receiver" The program failed to catch the drug dealers from Mexico. The ATF agents in the Arizona field office started another "gun running program" on their own without communicating to Holder. They made the program more aggressive by, letting more guns "walk" and not putting tracking devices on the guns. The ATF agents thought the Mexican cartel had contacts inside the Mexican government that were leaking information. So the agents did not inform the Mexican government about what became known as operation "Fast and Furious". This name came from the Vin Disel movie, when the ATF agents observed that Mexican gun buyers raced cars at night. Fast and Furious became political because one U.S. agent was murdered by the guns that walked and the program (even though it was more aggressive) did not catch the Mexican drug dealers.
IBH left out all of these facts!!!!!
NSA was started by Bush43 and Dick Cheney. It strongly supported by both. IBH left that out as well. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have to be careful when you are dealing with IBH, he tends to leave out information.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012...wide-receiver/
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05-25-2016, 01:38 AM
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The concept of "gun running" started with Bush43. ![Shock1](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/shock1.gif) It was called operation "wide receiver" The program failed to catch the drug dealers from Mexico. The ATF agents in the Arizona field office started another "gun running program" on their own without communicating to Holder. They made the program more aggressive by, letting more guns "walk" and not putting tracking devices on the guns. The ATF agents thought the Mexican cartel had contacts inside the Mexican government that were leaking information. So the agents did not inform the Mexican government about what became known as operation "Fast and Furious". This name came from the Vin Disel movie, when the ATF agents observed that Mexican gun buyers raced cars at night. Fast and Furious became political because one U.S. agent was murdered by the guns that walked and the program (even though it was more aggressive) did not catch the Mexican drug dealers.
IBH left out all of these facts!!!!!
NSA was started by Bush43 and Dick Cheney. It strongly supported by both. IBH left that out as well. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have to be careful when you are dealing with IBH, he tends to leave out information.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012...wide-receiver/
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Gun Running didn't start with Bush stupid. Gun running has been around since the Reagan era of course George H. Bush was heavily involved. But then it went even further with Clinton even when he was Governor of Arkansas. Google "Mena Airport" while you're at it google Barry Seals he was the pilot that did the transports from South America to Mena. When you cash your paycheck Friday look on the back of a Dollar Bill and notice where it says "In God We Trust" well in our fucked up modern times to the Masons "God" refers to Guns, Oil and Drugs. Don't forget about "Fast and Furious" this administration is more corrupt than all the others put together. The only reason why you may not want to believe that is because you aren't too bright. Of course you're not alone you have quite a few dummies on this board to keep you company.
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05-25-2016, 01:57 AM
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Gun Running didn't start with Bush stupid. Gun running has been around since the Reagan era of course George H. Bush was heavily involved. But then it went even further with Clinton even when he was Governor of Arkansas. Google "Mena Airport" while you're at it google Barry Seals he was the pilot that did the transports from South America to Mena. When you cash your paycheck Friday look on the back of a Dollar Bill and notice where it says "In God We Trust" well in our fucked up modern times to the Masons "God" refers to Guns, Oil and Drugs. Don't forget about "Fast and Furious" this administration is more corrupt than all the others put together. The only reason why you may not want to believe that is because you aren't too bright. Of course you're not alone you have quite a few dummies on this board to keep you company.
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I was talking about the programs that the Arizona ATF field agents ran, which were operation wide receiver and fast and furious, dipshit. IBH made it seem like Obama was the only one who had a gun running program. BTW, the Arizona ATF agents kicked off "FAST and Furious" without telling the White House. Fact Jack.
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05-25-2016, 06:42 AM
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We did have full employment during slavery.
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Without getting into racist shit.
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Too late. You already went there.
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05-25-2016, 07:08 AM
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No one has answered my question. Where are the enlightened people?
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You've been answered, but you lack the intellectual skills to realize it.
"The origins of the National Security Agency can be traced back to April 28, 1917" (wiki); that would be during Wilson's administration, flighty. Wilson was a dim-retard. "The agency [the NSA] was formally established by Truman in a memorandum of October 24, 1952, that revised National Security Council Intelligence Directive (NSCID). Since President Truman's memo was a classified document, the existence of the NSA was not known to the public at that time. Due to its ultra-secrecy the U.S. intelligence community referred to the NSA as 'No Such Agency'" (wiki). Truman was also a dim-retard, flighty.
Furthermore, flighty, both of your cited articles clearly state that Operation "Fast and Furious" started on Odumbo's watch in 2009, and the released documents clearly connect Odumbo's DOJ to the operation from the very beginning.
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I was talking about the programs that the Arizona ATF field agents ran, which were operation wide receiver and fast and furious, dipshit. IBH made it seem like Obama was the only one who had a gun running program. BTW, the Arizona ATF agents kicked off "FAST and Furious" without telling the White House. Fact Jack.
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You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on your ass, flighty; per your cited source:
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(4) Perhaps the most convincing piece of evidence proving the two operations are separate from each other is the fact that Wide Receiver was shut down in 2007 shortly after it was clear the program was a failure. This was before Odumbo was even in office and nearly two years before Fast and Furious began.
Fast and Furious wasn’t shut down until late 2010 after the deaths of hundreds of Mexicans, a border agent and an ICE officer.
(5) Finally, unlike Fast and Furious, officials involved in Wide Receiver were reportedly in close contact with Mexican authorities during the operation, though how involved Mexican officials were is not entirely known.
What is known is that Mexican authorities were kept completely in the dark during Fast and Furious, according to the Mexican ambassador to the U.S. Mexico.
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05-25-2016, 07:47 AM
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Seriously guys, I'm trying to think this through. How have right wingers helped us? Without getting into racist shit.
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You already took a turn into the racist shut.
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05-25-2016, 08:52 AM
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There's nothing.
Edit. We did have full employment during slavery.
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I'll bet the right wing pays most of the taxes, too.
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05-25-2016, 11:17 AM
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Are you guys still playing this shithead's game? Sounds like something Assup would post.
If by right wing you mean conservatives, modern conservatives which are the equivalent of classic liberals then the right wing gave you;
The US Constitution
Freedom to the slaves
Manifest Destiny
The right to vote to women
Most members of the US military
Research shows that right wingers are the most charitable people.
John Wayne
an economy based on capitalism and not socialism
the assembly line
the automobile
the airplane
Ronald Reagan
freedom from government telling how to live your life (one that we're fast losing)
that's my short list and now this shithead will ignore this list or try to impugn it.
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05-25-2016, 01:35 PM
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I was talking about the programs that the Arizona ATF field agents ran, which were operation wide receiver and fast and furious, dipshit. IBH made it seem like Obama was the only one who had a gun running program. BTW, the Arizona ATF agents kicked off "FAST and Furious" without telling the White House. Fact Jack.
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Eric Holder knew about "Fast N Furious" So did Obama. Don't be blindsided by the bullshit the MSM tells ya.
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05-25-2016, 02:14 PM
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The conservatives give everyone the right to succeed or fail on their merits whereas the libs want everyone to be equal. Equal means mediocre at best.
Your question illustrates the lefts mind set. "What can you give me".
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05-25-2016, 08:01 PM
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Furthermore, flighty, both of your cited articles clearly state that Operation "Fast and Furious" started on Odumbo's watch in 2009, and the released documents clearly connect Odumbo's DOJ to the operation from the very beginning.
You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on your ass, flighty; per your cited source:
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I did not write that "Fast and Furious started when Bush was in office. I wrote that the concept of running guns to catch the Mexican Drug Cartel started with Bush43 and was called Operation Wide Receiver.
The connection between Operation Wide Receiver and "Fast and Furious" was that the ATF field agents in the Arizona field office ran both programs. The Arizona ATF agents took more risks with "Fast and Furious because Operation Wide Receiver failed its objective to catch the bad guys, YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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