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Old 12-29-2015, 12:36 AM   #16
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This is ironic. I had a similar situation with her back in early November. Terrible TCB skills that had me running around for two hours following her to different places before she bailed with no warning. We set up a makeup session at my home after she couldn't secure a place. I got frustrated with the always helpless/not my fault vibe, especially when I ask for extra time or a review discount as a concession (she still isn't verified) and she tells me that is something she can't/won't do. I thought long and hard about letting her into my house and told her we would just part ways with no issues, but that she needed to work on TCB if this is what she wanted to do. I would have made a different decision if I had already dropped a grand so I understand moving forward. Just know that taking care of you first does not mean you can't take care of others. Be careful with the new reasons that she has no control of and needing to pay her more for a session you have already paid for twice. Good Luck to you
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Old 12-29-2015, 06:39 AM   #17
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Yes, I did give her 1000, the first time was 600 + 40 for gas, as she was going to come to my house near McKinney, today I sent her 370 (200 for the kid and 170 to pay off mom) She was going to do an over night to make up for the last time as well....



Shit you should ring the Salvation Army bells.
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Old 12-29-2015, 07:33 AM   #18
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Brother, you sound like an educated man but these incidents do require a little common sense on your part. This site contains almost every lessons learned and reading through them should at least gave you some insights. If she does return your kindness you are lucky if not you have made yourself another lesson learned for everyone.

Good luck and be head smart (top) next time.
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Old 12-29-2015, 09:03 AM   #19
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the ECCIE alert section remains ECCIE bullshit comedy corner.

I like to jump in early on these "alerts", because half of them are horseshit, and 80% of what's left is bullshit.. when we get alerts that are true against a Provider, the Hobbyist almost always slinks back to his thread and apologizes.. "I was wrong, nothing to see here".. oh yes, a simple $1,000 misunderstanding over separate incidents.. sure.

notice, too, that when a Provider charges a Hobbyist, he responds in the thread defending himself to a small or large degree.. a Provider rarely responds, she "works it out quietly, behind the scenes".

gullibility = theft = alert = "nothing to see here" = Pussywhipped
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Old 12-29-2015, 09:12 AM   #20
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Man I know I'm new here, but don't do anything else for her....this is how lots of people are, has nothing to do with the hobby, people will take full advantage of good hearted generous people because they can. Im a lot like that, want to help, but ya gotta know when to step off. Good on you for being a good guy, but just say can't do it and move on my man.
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Old 12-29-2015, 09:48 AM   #21
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Damn I almost saw her Sunday, had it not been for a delayed flight she might have got me too.

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Old 12-29-2015, 10:01 AM   #22
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Damn I almost saw her Sunday, had it not been for a delayed flight she might have got me too.
Next time go with a for sure!
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Old 12-29-2015, 10:52 AM   #23
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pay her mom to babysit for the night #redflag

stop on my way through and give her to money #redflag

We met at the Whataburger on I35 and Regal #redflag

gave her the rest of the money as well #WTF

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Old 12-29-2015, 11:03 AM   #24
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After she duped you why would you then invite her to come to your house? She'd have your address, know what's inside, as well as any partner in crime she may bring. Wouldn't be the first time a corrupt provider stole or had someone rob a hobbiest in their own home.


Besides, based on what I've seen, why would anyone have anything to do with any Relax girl. That place is a cesspool of problems for providers and Hobbiests.

Not an alert, moved to coed.
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Old 12-29-2015, 11:30 AM   #25
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First of all before everyone tells me that I should have known better and all that I already know... I knew I better but still allowed her to take advantage of my kindness.

When i was back in town, I the first week of December, I setup with her an overnight session.... Well she told me that she had to pay her mom to babysit for the night, or she could not do it.... We spent a some time working out the details, It came down to I would stop on my way through and give her to money to pay her mom, then I would have her come to my house so she did not have to pay for a room for the night, We met at the Whataburger on I35 and Regal, I gave her the money to pay her mom, stupid me I gave her the rest of the money as well... She stayed in contact with me for the next hour, then informed me she was having a fight with her mom, but an hour later she texted me that she was on her way, but never showed....

I out of the kindness of my heart sent her a note wishing her a merry Christmas, and got reply back apologizing and asking me if I would be willing to start over that she was sorry... She just did not know what do do when her mom took the money and refused to babysit.... I was supposed to have met her today... I got a call from her late this morning crying because she had set a 2 hour appointment and the guy put down the envelope and at the end of the time she found it was full of magazine clip outs... and had to take a child to a specialist later in the afternoon, but could not pay for it... (Intentionally left general as person details not important)

Like a sucker who has a soft spot for children, worked it out to get he the money for her child.... Once again as soon as she had cash in hand she disappeared... I honestly have no idea if she really has kids or a mom who has to be paid to babysit... But the fact is she played me twice, so I am now posting this....


My apologies for the laugh meme. I purposely incorporated it to insight some fire in you though because this is probably exactly what she's doing right now. Hopefully you get the message.

I definitely sympathize with you because I'm the same way. However, even though I'm a trick, I'm no joke! Your level of care cannot surpass the amount of $$$ you're willingly able to burn. I don't know if my years in the hobby-verse has hardened me or not, but you have to stop that shit fast.

You have just made yourself a public target for all those who will do the same and not give a fuck (this is a dog eat dog environment). One of my main weapons of choice is this phrase "I'm not comfortable with doing that". If the provider can't accommodate, move on. There is a sea of providers here who will give you exactly what you want and need.
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Old 12-29-2015, 12:14 PM   #26
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She contacted me, I was over zellous in my alert... She is having family issues.... I will be asking to have the later removed... as it was not the case as I thought...
I hope it works out for you. Either way lesson learned. Sometimes you have to think of this as a business (because it is) As with most businesses you only provide funds for services rendered. Most providers are wonderful and you dont have to think of them in this way. But if you and her agree on an appointment than it is up to her to make proper arrangements to meet that appointment. It may sound cold and i too am a nice guy but thats just the way it is sometimes. I've done favors for providers before but have never given then the full donation until we are BCD. It feels great to do something nice for people but you just gotta know who you are dealing with.

This hobby is about enjoyment and having fun. If you have to go thru all this then its not worth it.
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Old 12-29-2015, 01:51 PM   #27
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This is ironic..... Terrible TCB skills.............
That is why she was at a studio, because her TCB skills are atrocious, so when she leaves the studio environment and has to do her own scheduling, time management, ect., she is probably overwhelmed, maybe she will snap out of it eventually. In rare cases every now and then, you will get a Robyn Rylie Sin or Tia Hart out of the studio scene and flourish as an indy, but for the most part, they either try and sputter out after a short while or don't even try.
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Old 12-29-2015, 02:04 PM   #28
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You trust her again and you deserve whatever happens. Do yourself a favor and get out of the hobby. Scammers will see you coming a mile away.
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Old 12-29-2015, 02:21 PM   #29
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You don't have to be weak to be kind.

If you want to have a good time, do your research.

If you want to rescue people, volunteer for your local fire department.

You are hereby fired from your position as Captain Save a Ho.
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Old 12-29-2015, 02:46 PM   #30
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Ok, let me put an end to this now.... i jumped to a conclusion that was incorrect and assumed that everything was a lie and then posted the thread, the fact is this, I knew before hand about the issues with family, I have known about it since I spoke to her the first time in November, I had thought everything was OK for now... But with family you can never know for sure..... The reality is you shoud be feeling sorry for her, I made a incorrect assumption, and posted something now she is getting blammed and tagged as a bad provider, she is not...

Yes, I should have thought more, but the fact is everyone has an outside the hobby life, and like mine I'm sure most of them are not perfect.... So let all think about what if you were the one... The provider trying to get by, and gets scammed by a guy, the guy who get scammed by the provider... It should never happen but it does.... I am just glad that the person i accused of scamming me actually has a heart and soul, and is a good person in a bad situation...

The reality of the situation is that she was dealing with real family problems and the ability to have a babysitter for her children, I can relate, as I am dealing with family issues as well, and they get in the way of everything... I have lost several jobs in the past 10 years due to dealing with family issues.... She is actually a very nice girl in a very difficult situation.... If you meet with her, she loves to talk to she will tell you about it herself I'm sure....

So cut the girl some slack and let her do what she does best, making us feel like kings for an hour or two at a time....
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