Would legalization "fix" prostitution or make it worse? Or is another way needed?

[EZ.]

Anybody convicted of trafficking a child for sex purposes should be given the death penalty.

"Separate but equal" was an absurd concept during the civil rights movement. Keeping child predators away from the general population, in prison, should be viewed the same way. Being held separate makes their time easier. Convicts know how to deal with these people better than our judicial system.

How many women would consider prostitution if they knew that the police wouldn't charge them with a crime?

[ck1942]

Full Disclosure:

I did NOT read much of the article on prostitution outlawed in Sweden.

But I did hit Google searching for "female escorts in Sweden"
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So much for what the Swedish law says.

By the way, the official dollar/Swedish Krona exchange rate this morning is 1 buck buys 7.38 sek, so a 1000 sek price = 135 USD

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Interesting, too, that the Backpage rules of "disclosure" for Sweden are way different than for the U.S., pricing, services, nudity, etc.


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When is the next flight out?

[daty/o]

Originally Posted by Glenn Quagmire

The best we could hope for is decriminalizing it for the ladies and increase penalties and enforcement for the pimps and the johns

I was with you until...

[Golden Man]

Originally Posted by Glenn Quagmire

Nobody could fuck it up like the United States could!

Prices would go up and that would be bad. Ladies, don't get your panties in a wad about that statement because if prices went up, it is not like you would get more money; your cut would probably go down. Anybody who has worked at the Bunny Ranch in Nevada would support that statement.

The best we could hope for is decriminalizing it for the ladies and increase penalties and enforcement for the pimps and the johns and use any increase in revenues to help ladies who want out to get out and learn some new skills.


Laz, maybe we could get a grant to study the idea!

I agree with Glen for the most part, current laws usually designed to punish providers. A few years back a U.S. Senator in Louisiana David Vitter was outed as a regular patron to a Bordello in New Orleans. His punishment, he was reelected and is currently in the US Senate, and the leading republican candidate for governor of Louisiana. The lady providing was arrested and indicted for prostitution, she was forbidden by the court from writing a book or making public the names of any of the johns she serviced, her diary was confiscated. Overwhelmed She eventually committed suicide.

[EZ.]

Originally Posted by Golden Man

I agree with Glen for the most part, current laws usually designed to punish providers. A few years back a U.S. Senator in Louisiana David Vitter was outed as a regular patron to a Bordello in New Orleans. His punishment, he was reelected and is currently in the US Senate, and the leading republican candidate for governor of Louisiana. The lady providing was arrested and indicted for prostitution, she was forbidden by the court from writing a book or making public the names of any of the johns she serviced, her diary was confiscated. Overwhelmed She eventually committed suicide.

The second time Edwin Edwards was running for governor, a reporter said that he had a reputation of being a womanizer. His response was, "I do love women". You would never elected in Texas after that comment.
If you wanted to see him, you would be told to bring a Rolex president. They called them Edwin bracelets and you saw some fine looking government employees wearing them. He was found guilty of racketeering and served 8 years. He would get elected again, if he could run.

[Golden Man]

Originally Posted by OldLRRP

The second time Edwin Edwards was running for governor, a reporter said that he had a reputation of being a womanizer. His response was, "I do love women". You would never elected in Texas after that comment.
If you wanted to see him, you would be told to bring a Rolex president. They called them Edwin bracelets and you saw some fine looking government employees wearing them. He was found guilty of racketeering and served 8 years. He would get elected again, if he could run.

Not totally correct, I had a close friend who worked in the administration of Edwards successor, but also knew Edwards fairly well. Edward's was a ladies man, who once said 2 weeks before an election that the only way he would lose was to "get caught in bed with a dead woman or a live boy". It is also very unlikely he could get elected in Louisiana today, every state wide elected official is republican. While saying you love women may not get you elected in Texas, we do have our share of recently elected with recent legal issues, and lady connections to fraudsters. Which brings me back to the thread, why not decriminalize sexual prostitution, after it is not illegal to be a political whore or prostitute.

[Mavs fan]

Was stationed in Germany. Prostitution is legal there and it is regulated by the government. The fact that it is legal and open drives the price down. It is also taxed and there is no need for pimps. I definitely think it should be legal here. For 50 euros you could spend 30 minutes with an incredibly beautiful woman. In the FKK clubs the girls were treated well and the owners demanded that customers be treated well because they wanted repeat business. The girls are also tested periodically. Think of the most upscale strip club you have ever been to. Then imagine that you could have sex with any woman there for 50 bucks.

[Glenn Quagmire]

Originally Posted by OldLRRP

When is the next flight out?

no shit. If they are legit, I think I should move there. Wow!

Originally Posted by daty/o

I was with you until...

yeah. I know. but I was thinking in terms of real effectiveness. Got to curb the demand. I think offering clients some counseling too in lieu of harsher punishments might have some effectiveness.

Originally Posted by OldLRRP

The second time Edwin Edwards was running for governor, a reporter said that he had a reputation of being a womanizer. His response was, "I do love women". You would never elected in Texas after that comment.
.....

Makes me think of Clayton Williams. Had the election sewn up until Williams publicly made a off the record joke in front of reports on a hunting trip likening rape to bad weather, having stated: "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it".

I still want to get some grants to do some studies about the hobby. I just wonder if I can get enough participation for a study to be statistically significant.

[LazurusLong]

I am one of the many who have posted before that I strive to avoid seeing a provider that has even a hint of a pimp around.

Punishing and placing a label on a woman who may have been forced into hooking is wrong on so many levels that our current laws seem as out of touch with the real world as the ones prohibiting oral sex.

I noted in my first post that Dallas seems to have a split personality about what to do with women who may want out. Sadly, the diversion programs seem to only be offered after an arrest. In my opinion, diversion programs should be offered well before any arrest.

Sex trafficking is real and a world wide problem. People can argue about the number and ages of the victims but not about it happening and from many news reports, it is increasing. But it may be stable and just getting more attention.

All I know is that meeting a woman who chooses to be in the hobby is vastly different from seeing one who is forced and I am a firm believer that pimps who are forcing in any way should face some of the most severe punishments possible. Neutering should be the minimal punishment.

[Glenn Quagmire]

Originally Posted by LazurusLong

.... Sadly, the diversion programs seem to only be offered after an arrest. In my opinion, diversion programs should be offered well before any arrest.
...

That's a beautiful idea.

[phildo]

You'd have to find a way to squash the crazy-eyed conservative cultural stigma against sex workers, but once it was legal, it could be regulated and taxed and might provide an nice income stream for local government! That way you would know that who you were seeing was of legal age (not much of a problem for those of us who don't dip below 30 something) and passed some basic tox and management screening. That way working wimmin could actually rent and/or buy property and the crazy eyed conservative nut cases would know where they were and come take pictures of everybody cumming and going. What a joy that would bring to a lot of marriages! The end result of all that exposure would be to drive the process back underground from whence it came. Because, no shit really, we don't all want everything we thing we do made completely public. Sex and money in the same equation are just as dangerous as tequila and a handgun in the same equation. Don't make it anybody else's business but your own. Contain the potentially volatile fallout and everybody is better off.

[Prolongus]

I believe the girl named "Macy" would be a perfect fit with her balloons in the NY Thanksgiving Day parade...yummm.

If selling sex was legal, she'd have enough clients for the rest of her hooker life.

[EZ.]

Originally Posted by phildo

You'd have to find a way to squash the crazy-eyed conservative cultural stigma against sex workers, but once it was legal, it could be regulated and taxed and might provide an nice income stream for local government! That way you would know that who you were seeing was of legal age (not much of a problem for those of us who don't dip below 30 something) and passed some basic tox and management screening. That way working wimmin could actually rent and/or buy property and the crazy eyed conservative nut cases would know where they were and come take pictures of everybody cumming and going. What a joy that would bring to a lot of marriages! The end result of all that exposure would be to drive the process back underground from whence it came. Because, no shit really, we don't all want everything we thing we do made completely public. Sex and money in the same equation are just as dangerous as tequila and a handgun in the same equation. Don't make it anybody else's business but your own. Contain the potentially volatile fallout and everybody is better off.

Yes, conservatives would stand against the legalization of prostitution but understand liberals/progressives want to take away all of your rights. Libertarians are the ones that agree with you.

[benssin]

This topic of legalization fascinates me, though I'm not well versed on it. Thanks all for sharing about it; points I never considered both in pros and cons.

One thing I've always been curious of is whether legalizing the hobby would also put it into an area where discrimination against a particular race, say the well known NBA policy of many girls, or against any group or John in general, would result in criminal or civil action. Say a fine, or the ability for a John to sue a provider or some other penalty, or whether the govt. would regulate it much differently than any other business.

Just always been curious of how much a legalized system would change some things clients and providers take for grant now...