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10-29-2014, 08:39 PM
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We could also, if they'll allow it, just use a thread like this one to back-and-forth talk about girls who we'd like to have visit. Having run large forums like this one myself in years past, the Admins probably won't like creating a one-off subforum because they like to keep things uniform ... ours would be the only one, until other areas see it and then want the same thing.
But forums like this exist to make money, traffic = money. If this idea generates more traffic, then they'll see the value.
Me, I want to get some non-agency Asian girls here that will see couples!
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So have you run forums here in St. Louis in the past? I'm sure it was a lot of work.
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10-29-2014, 09:26 PM
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Good idea....
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We could also, if they'll allow it, just use a thread like this one to back-and-forth talk about girls who we'd like to have visit. Having run large forums like this one myself in years past, the Admins probably
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There are a couple of possibilities to assist your efforts without creating a new sub-forum. This suggestion is a good way to start, by creating a new thread with a proper subject line to encourage participation. The thread can essentially go on indefinitely as long as posts remain on topic and good information is exchanged to spur interest.
Good luck! Have fun and play safe!
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10-29-2014, 11:39 PM
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So have you run forums here in St. Louis in the past? I'm sure it was a lot of work.
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I've created and built some huge forums, none of which had anything to do with 'hobbying' however.
So Scorpio gave us the blessing to start a thread about the topic. It would make more sense to start a new one instead of continuing here, make the topic as obvious as possible, something like "STL, who would you like to see visit". As he says, just keep it on topic!
As far as Recap being our ring-leader, I have no problem with that. Afterall what will attract girls is the prospect of making money, it's that simple. Recap spends money and writes reviews. The same guidelines would apply to Recap as anybody else when approaching someone, be polite and understanding if they say not interested. I'm a total n00b or I'd start the thread, but I do have a couple early suggestions for who I'd like to see
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10-30-2014, 04:00 AM
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Sounds like a plan to me.
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11-02-2014, 04:43 PM
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I'm actually leaving on Wednesday for St. Louis.
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11-03-2014, 08:47 PM
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Thank you 124816
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11-03-2014, 11:16 PM
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Wouldn't hurt to have someone with a less colorful posting background leading the recruitment effort either. Sorry but Recap doesn't speak for me and has too much baggage associated with his style and approach to the Hobby for my tastes.
It's my opinion that quality local ladies that are willing to assist travelers with information etc. are the best "recruitment" method and has the best results.
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Truer words were never spoken!!! Well said sir!
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11-03-2014, 11:52 PM
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Probably a good way to encourage providers to visit St. Louis is to be welcoming and supportive of the great providers who are already making it a part of their travels. If those providers do well and find a welcoming, friendly, and supportive hobby community they are more likely to return and to say good things about St. Louis to other escorts who then might also consider coming here.
On the other hand, if they get a bunch of NCNS, bad attitude, cheapskates, hagglers, guys trying get around screening, robs, and guys backhandedly insulting them and the guy who took the time to write a positive review by questioning their rates in their review threads; well they tend to talk to other escorts about that stuff too.
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11-04-2014, 12:55 AM
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If I had to guess why more girls don't come to St. Louis, judging by the amount of new reviews that get posted , I would probably guess it is lack of guys seeing providers rather that a bunch of cheapskates seeing providers. There is a lot more conversations about hobbiest by hobbiests , than conversations about providers by hobbiests. I'd like to read some new reviews by other members. I can't believe only a couple guys here are getting any pussy. Cmon , write some reviews instead of smack.
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11-04-2014, 07:53 AM
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Again I agree with my partner in criminal enterprises. I get pm's/emails from great providers asking me how the market is here, where to stay and advertise etc. I also read where ladies will be booked or almost booked before they get here and many then are upset about all that Jannisary talked about in his second paragraph. I realize it may be due to those gents maybe being new or just down right rude. But we all know that once a lady has had a taste of that it is hard to make another trip. Or not as frequent of trips. Or sometimes for the dates we tour we cannot get enough bookings to make the trip worth the travel. I mean guys would you want to sell something that you know you need to make x amount on and not get enough to cover your overhead? Kinda defeats the purpose. JS
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11-04-2014, 09:34 AM
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That's really fucked up the cheap haggler guys only want to spend a little money and the guys who aren't cheap , don't spend any money. I guess If the big spenders would spend, than we wouldn't be having this conversation. But the reality is the the guys who have less money to spend , will at least spend it. The guys who can afford to spoil a girl , generally won't cut loose of it. So one should probably be greatful for the cheapskates. Haha. I have to be fucking cheap because providers have all my money.
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11-04-2014, 10:23 AM
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Ok this topic is getting touring ladies to come here correct???? Do any of you know the cost of tours? That hotels rates have went up nationwide. That in order to make a tour work that you need to see a certain number of guys per day in order to make a tour work. BUT.... you still need to be somewhat UTR. There are camera's in every hotel. So if you have someone coming to your door every hour on the hour or every 2 hours it could possibly set off attention. There are many many things to consider when touring. Not only the room but the transportation to get there. Then there are meals ... we do have to eat. So not saying people are cheap but just giving some other thoughts on the subject. And just one or 2 guys hobbying a lot is not enough to make a girl come to town.
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11-04-2014, 10:30 PM
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If I had to guess why more girls don't come to St. Louis, judging by the amount of new reviews that get posted , I would probably guess it is lack of guys seeing providers rather that a bunch of cheapskates seeing providers. There is a lot more conversations about hobbiest by hobbiests , than conversations about providers by hobbiests. I'd like to read some new reviews by other members. I can't believe only a couple guys here are getting any pussy. Cmon , write some reviews instead of smack.
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You can guess that if you want but I think you'd be wrong. The number of reviews are not and never have been an accurate representation of hobby activity. There are plenty of guys who see providers who never write a review or even post on the message boards for that matter.
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That's really fucked up the cheap haggler guys only want to spend a little money and the guys who aren't cheap , don't spend any money. I guess If the big spenders would spend, than we wouldn't be having this conversation. But the reality is the the guys who have less money to spend , will at least spend it. The guys who can afford to spoil a girl , generally won't cut loose of it. So one should probably be greatful for the cheapskates. Haha. I have to be fucking cheap because providers have all my money.
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There wouldn't be nearly as many providers coming through St. Louis in the 300+ range if the "big spenders" weren't spending. Somebody is spending money on these providers or they wouldn't be coming. There is also a fair amount of local providers in the 300+ range. Again, somebody has to be spending money on these providers or they'd lower their rates, move on, or do something different.
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11-04-2014, 11:44 PM
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My rates are some of the lowest around...especially for my wide open menu! When i travel to St Louis it costs alot....so I make it there a couple times a year when i take a tour that way to other cities....It is very expensive to tour...the nicer hotels in the safest areas are pricey/food is expensive and gas is costly {my truck gets 15 miles to gallon}....and I only see two guys a day,so therefore I rely on prebooks,serioes inquiries, and regulars to make it "worth my while"
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11-05-2014, 01:44 AM
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You can guess that if you want but I think you'd be wrong. The number of reviews are not and never have been an accurate representation of hobby activity. There are plenty of guys who see providers who never write a review or even post on the message boards for that matter.
There wouldn't be nearly as many providers coming through St. Louis in the 300+ range if the "big spenders" weren't spending. Somebody is spending money on these providers or they wouldn't be coming. There is also a fair amount of local providers in the 300+ range. Again, somebody has to be spending money on these providers or they'd lower their rates, move on, or do something different.
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Well , I was guessing that based upon your earlier conversation about the reason providers aren't comming to st. Louis is because once they get booked the guys are rude, haggle, or ncns. And that in fact caused some provider to hi tail it out of town.
But now your saying Stl. Louis has all these big spenders who just don't write reviews, OR ONLY WRITE REVIEWS TO HELP THE PROVIDERS. And that is why there are so many $300+/hour providers who come to Stl.
So in my defense , considering you just contradicted all the previous information you provided , that i based my whole guess on, I'm going to have to reguess my earlier guess. ( goodisms )
Why do you keep fucking with me Jann?
You know you can't have it both ways.
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