How Much Info Should I Give to Provider

[ck1942]

Young Padawan ...

You evidence some limited intelligence --- at least you asked.

But now you admit you do not have a hobby phone, etc. yada yada yada.

imho you need to step way back from the "active" searching in the hobby to the

very deep introspective mode

before you leap into a very deep (and always deepening) dark pool in which there are zero lifeguards.

The only way to learn to swim is first, learn to "drown proof"

Many many have gone before you and more than a few have not survived.

[SA Angel]

To the OP.....You already have the tools you need.

There is overlap between providers and strippers. If you want no one to know your real name then your best bet is to do some research and find a dancer who hobbies and is reference friendly. Some girls are more likely to do a M&G as further screening if you have a reference. I'm sure some of your local guys might know some ladies that dance AND play on this site.

Or you could just choose to see extremely reputable ladies who make more than you do and want to continue that trend by staying discreet and trustworthy.

[JRLawrence]

Originally Posted by luckyk

Hey guys.. need some advice from experienced hobbyists here:

I wonder how much personal info I should give to a provider? Do you guys give out your real full name for screening purposes? I guess if they ask to check your id, then you have no choice. I don't really have anything to hide... but just prefer to remain some-what anonymous, since I don't want the hobby to come back and haunt me some point down the road.

Is it possible to be in the hobby without ever having to disclose your private info like name, address, place of employment, etc?

1, Do you guys give out your real full name for screening purposes?
Never give out your real name! If asked walk away. No, make that run away.
2. I don't really have anything to hide
You have your personal safety to look out for.
3.... but just prefer to remain some-what anonymous
Work at being totally anonymous, never give your real name or any personal information.
4. I don't want the hobby to come back and haunt me some point down the road.
It will! Change what you are doing to avoid being killed or robbed.

Do your homework. You are about to be rolled, or killed.

You must be very young, we know you are foolish.

JR

[JRLawrence]

Originally Posted by luckyk

Some good comments here. I completely understand why providers need the screening info. It's for their own safety, and I totally respect that. At some point, I will probably need to get on P411, establish persona, get a hobby phone, get references, etc.. just to make things easier for both parties. I totally get it.

But honestly, I find the process a bit tedious. Look at it from my stand point... I'm a relatively young (mid 30's), physically fit, healthy, super clean, very well educated, highly paid professional, with plenty of $ to spend. Very respectful and courteous to everyone, whether they're a provider or not. I don't just play nice for the sake of getting pussy.. I'm actually a nice / considerate guy through and through. I'm also not "weird" or creepy in any way. Don't have any unusual fetishes (not even into Greek). I'm a confident, outgoing, friendly guy, and a pretty good conversationalist too. YET despite all these qualities... I still have to be screened as if I'm a dangerous low-life thug. Again, I understand why this process exist. I just wish there was an easier way for me to convey / prove all my qualities to providers. Unfortunately, I'm in a career (and marriage, for that matter) where I strongly prefer remaining anonymous when it comes to hobby life. Instead of disclosing all my real personal info for screening, I would much rather pay a prospective provider to meet me somewhere public for drinks or dinner.. so she can judge for herself whether or not I'm safe to see. -OR- for the right girl, I'd be more than happy to pay double her standard rate to see a "newbie". BTW- In case you're a provider in DFW area reading this post... my offer is open! Please PM me if you're interested in meeting a new friend

I keep on telling myself I should spend more time, effort, & money getting established in the escort hobby.. which is really where I want to be. But in the mean time, I've been distracted by AMP's and strip club OTC encounters, which also offers a fun experience without all the formalities of screening. In the long term though, I do want to establish myself in the REAL hobby. I just need to find the inner conviction to go through the process of getting references, etc.

Sorry guy, but you really have your head up your ass. Everything, everything you say just tells us you don't understand.

You sweet little thing, you are just what the wolves are looking for. Go on not tell us some more about hot nice a guy you are with a good job along with any more information that the wolves are looking for.

Or, you can just shut your mouth, put on some old clothes and quit telling us how important your are. Everything you say says come on someone: Rob Me.

Only a fool tells everything they know. You must be terrible at poker.

JR

[BigBlue]

Many good replies here especially from luckyk. I can definitely say that the only issue I have with the hobby is that there is never enough money lol.
Yes I keep it simple and provide a made up persona. I've only showed my ID once and she was friggen awesome!!

I would like to add a few things I do for added personal security and these are done ANY time regardless of how many times I may have seen a provider. After I know what hotel/motel they are at I drive around the entire building once making note of what type of cars and the plates on the cars. Usually normal people will have either vanity plates or a typical order of letters and numbers. I also try to look through vehicle windows for multiple heads...basically anything that looks like several cops just waiting to do a bust. I might be wrong but I would thing that most busts, if they are drag netting for multiple hobbiests, would have a van to collect them all. Then I park next door and just watch who and what vehicles are coming and going just in case I would be the first arrest for the night or maybe even some crazy pimp. I usually do this in about 10 to 15 min then I call and tell her I am here and ready. Then right before exiting my vehicle I "sanitize" (military term for removing any and all identifying material)...I leave EVERYTHING: cellphone, wallet, etc. except for the cash locked away in the car.
I know this might be a little over the top to some but it has kept me safe and at the same time its not insulting the provider. I love this hobby and have met a lot of great people.

[Guest030824]

BigBlue
That sounds good but most new providers I see ask that I park some place they can see me before giving out the room number. They need to stay safe also. A couple live in apartments where guests have to park in certain spots. One has had me park near the apartment office and then come and get me. Others stay in large hotels where the elevator requires the room card key to operate it. Dallas always stays in high class hotels so I carry a nice brief case to look like I have a reason to be there. One long stay suites place the lady came down to let me in the back door.

[FatMexicanCowboy]

Shit Shit Shit ! I've given my real name, license number and my regular cell phone number with girls off backpage ! Which i would have found this site before. Alot of useful threads in here, hope nothing bad comes of this. Guess you live and learn. Thanks !

[Guest030824]

Are you married? Do you have a woman that has no idea of your hobby interests? Are you going to run for Congress? Well running for Congress your hobby experiences may be a plus. I am single and older than hell so I don't give a damn. If some one tries to black mail me they will be wasting their time. A cop friend of mine cautioned me about getting my picture in the paper' I told him I would use it for a Christmas card.
This site is better regulated and give you the opportunity to select those that are safe.

[HarleyRider96]

LuckyK, noticed in a previous post of yours you've had no problem with OTC at the SC's. So just my 2 cents worth is: keep working that for awhile. I opened a office in Dallas last Feb., went to bdd in the afternoon, met a great gal, spent about 200 with her at the club, did the after hours OTC dinner, drinks, had fun back at the hotel fell asleep later and woke up with her the next morning around 11. All around 350 total. Went out to lunch, then parted ways.

Did the same with her my next trip down (only took her a gift that time) now I've been coming down about 1 week a month so all I have to do is call and see if she's free. Visit the club about 5 to pick her up when she's done and then have a great night and next morning for around 250 (sometimes more, sometimes less) on dinner, drinks and lunch.

She wants no attachment out of it and neither do I. For now it works just fine for me. So yup, I consider this a hobby.

[HarleyRider96]

Oh, and when you're ready to try the board; post a witty request on the Dallas ISO and see who comes knockin. or search the forums for "newbie friendly"

[FatMexicanCowboy]

Originally Posted by tucson

Are you married? Do you have a woman that has no idea of your hobby interests? Are you going to run for Congress? Well running for Congress your hobby experiences may be a plus. I am single and older than hell so I don't give a damn. If some one tries to black mail me they will be wasting their time. A cop friend of mine cautioned me about getting my picture in the paper' I told him I would use it for a Christmas card.
This site is better regulated and give you the opportunity to select those that are safe.

Not married, no gf or have any kids, so i guess i'm kinda saved ? But my only concern is that i live with my uncle and his wife and i wouldn't want any harm done to them. Pretty funny you would use your picture in paper if you ever got caught as a Christmas card, good one lol !

[Recapacitar]

Originally Posted by luckyk

Hey guys.. need some advice from experienced hobbyists here:

I wonder how much personal info I should give to a provider? Do you guys give out your real full name for screening purposes? I guess if they ask to check your id, then you have no choice. I don't really have anything to hide... but just prefer to remain some-what anonymous, since I don't want the hobby to come back and haunt me some point down the road.

Is it possible to be in the hobby without ever having to disclose your private info like name, address, place of employment, etc?

If you have a common name like John Smith then it's probably OK if you absolutely need to use it, but if your last name is Tortellini, Tcaikovsky, Schwarzenegger or something like that, you better keep that shit quiet.
A simple FB or internet search will find you or a shit load of your family members which ultimately is the same as finding you.

Next rule of thumb: Under no circumstances should you ever ever ever ever give out your employment information especially if you value your livelihood. I don't care if the pussy is so good that sparks shoot out of it.
There are too many women out here to submit to that bull.

Now there are some established services like P411 that might be good. Just remember no organization will keep you as safe as you. Some guys
with high profile jobs or military/government jobs have to be extra careful. Whatever the case always ask questions and do what's comfortable for you. This is a great first step.

[luckyk]

Originally Posted by Recapacitar

Now there are some established services like P411 that might be good. Just remember no organization will keep you as safe as you. Some guys
with high profile jobs or military/government jobs have to be extra careful. Whatever the case always ask questions and do what's comfortable for you. This is a great first step.

Agreed.. we all should do what's comfortable for us. I also agree that there're probably many ladies out there who understand that clients also need to protect themselves and stay anonymous to some extent. I don't doubt that I will find some very nice ladies to spend quality time with, without having to give out my personal & employment info.

Frankly, I just haven't been trying to reach out to providers in my area YET. As I mentioned in a previous post, there are so many other 'distractions', at least here in DFW area. So many hot chicks and various options around. I've been keeping myself busy with a dancer I met last month. Seen her 3 times now OTC. Besides that, there're always AMPs I could just walk right in. The only thing I ever need to give out with these options are my hobby name and hobby phone#. I treat all the ladies I come across very nicely and generously. I think they themselves can also tell within minutes of seeing and talking to me that I'm a respectful, clean, & friendly individual. This arrangement seems to work out perfectly for now... it allows me to have fun without going through the hassle of pre-screening. I will try out the escort hobby soon, but I'm just too comfortable with my 'chosen path' for the time being.

[DakotaSterling]

All good points.. but keep in mind many ladies do not give references lol.. even if they say they do.. I always do- if you send a lady to my email it will be answered immediately. . I have only met a handful of other ladies who are likewise with giving refs. Too bad really... in that case.. other screening is necessary. If the lady is in good standing with the community and has been for a nice amount of time... there should be no problem from yall to give a little extra info ... there's a ton of threads in this section that show exactly why we need to know that you are John Smith from Tampa florida... rather than Michael Meyers - hobby alias serial killer in town for the weekend from God only knows where.

Xoxo

[Alluring Elaina]

I completely agree. Any lady who doesn't care to verify you has a high probability of being up to something shady or LE herself. Cops don't care about verifying to protect themselves. In general, the ladies who tend to be strict in verification are often the best ones. They show great care for themselves and well being. That generally will prove true for most aspects of the lady, ie her looks, hygiene, health, etc. I would NEVER see a man I couldn't verify. Not worth it to me. I prefer to have both parties involved to feel safe and comfortable for a better experience.