BBW and rates

[Guest043022]

First off, judging by your pics I would consider you more thick than BBW, and there will always be guys that prefer girls your size over the 98 lb spinner.Work with what you got and enjoy what you do and clients will seek you out.

[Guest072614-1]

Originally Posted by Riverstud

First off, judging by your pics I would consider you more thick than BBW, and there will always be guys that prefer girls your size over the 98 lb spinner.Work with what you got and enjoy what you do and clients will seek you out.

^Word.

I think the world would be a better place without the term "BBW." Too many different body types to throw every chick with a few bonus curves under that umbrella. Guys slap girls around with that term so much that, as a guy with a soft spot for larger women, I had grow a thicker skin just to read the forums on here. The hard truth is, girls with certain body types can command higher donations for their time because of the demand. But don't you let none of these crazy motherfuckers tell you you're not sexy, or worth X amount of dollars. I've just perved through your showcase and confirmed that you are. Hope things pick up for you.

[DallasRain]

quote--If you are able to get inside of the mind body and soul of your clients you will do very well.

WELL SAID!!

I think it all has to do with how you market yourself.......Set your rate to what makes you feel comfortable......and if you choose to,offer specials to regular clients to keep a steady income base

[honeydavis]

Its the guys from Eccie. The rules on harassment aren't as strict as they used to be and now are getting away with murder in terms of antagonistic and abusive behavior out in the open on the board. I remember when I first started the guys here picked on me until I changed the way I did things too. They will prey on the newbies to get what they want out of you. So grow a thick skin fast if you're going to stay in this business.

I would suggest getting on some of the other sites like P411 and yeah, BP. Guys like to talk mess about BP, but considering they charge almost $15 for just one post, I would venture that most of the fake girls faded away with the death of CL. Its not perfect, it definitely generates a ton more interest than anywhere I've found. Getting them screened on the other hand, now that's a bit harder. They're used to just showing up with a wad of green roses and their hard dick and you have to get them to jump through hoops to verify them.

And before anyone tries to say that LE trolls BP badly, let me just say that in my almost 10 years of experience, the only times I've ever had any near close calls were with guys from here.

It makes sense. Why would LE poke around on all the randomness and unknowns of BP, wasting time with girls that may or may not do anything more than a body rub, when they can just shoot fish out a barrel with proven providers off a review site? When you think about it, reviews are probably biggest reason for an LE scare...

My advice is to diversify your advertising.

[honeydavis]

Another thing you should know, is that any man who isn't attracted to you, isn't going to pay to spend time with you. If you aren't what he finds attractive, there's a ton of other girls who he will. There's too many providers out there to try to convince a man to see someone who isn't his type. In order for you to compete in that area, you'd have to go down to the insanely low rates of BP and not far behind the SW's. Even then, no matter how low your rates are, there will always be someone out there with the same rates that looks totally different than you, so don't worry about trying to be competitive.

Any man who visits a BBW, does so because he likes bigger women. Yeah spinners may look like they're barely legal till they're 40, but they can't provide every man with what he wants. My Gigantic All Natural 38G Tits are what attracts a lot of my clients to me, and guess what, no spinner has that.

So settle on a donation you feel satisfied with, and don't look at what others are charging, if you do that, you'll never be happy. Autumn Spring was a bigger girl and with the way guys STILL talk about her, I imagine she hardly had time for anything but appointments! Goes without saying she has a sweet personality, is known to be a true giver and has a golden reputation on the board...which for some many here, means more than looks. Good luck.

Honey

[JustCause]

Originally Posted by honeydavis

?..My Gigantic All Natural 38G Tits are what attracts a lot of my clients to me, and guess what, no spinner has that....

Honey

Or the fact that you're articulate and can think.

Good post.

[sexy.princess]

Originally Posted by Riverstud

First off, judging by your pics I would consider you more thick than BBW, and there will always be guys that prefer girls your size over the 98 lb spinner.Work with what you got and enjoy what you do and clients will seek you out.

Thank you

[sexy.princess]

Originally Posted by Riverstud

First off, judging by your pics I would consider you more thick than BBW, and there will always be guys that prefer girls your size over the 98 lb spinner.Work with what you got and enjoy what you do and clients will seek you out.

Thank you

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by hgritstoo

You have to account for the source. Wakeup takes pride in being abrasive for the sake of his image.

But to the original topic. This is a very inhomogenious business. Different men have different preferences and different things they value. Any lady needs to understand her strengths (and weaknesses) and also understand who she is marketing to. If she focuses on getting her message out in a way that maximizes her visibility and appeal to guys who want what she offers, then she will likely do pretty well. If you are a size 10, don't focus on the guys who only care about a 4'10" 90 lb Asian. A 35 y/o lady who is focused on a few multi-hour dress-up dates shouldn't pose in daisy dukes and write in teenage slang. Whatever your professional marketing approach, tell/show a consistent message for your brand.

That being said, some traits do have more shoppers looking for those things. The more of the in-demand traits a lady has, the more demand, the more she can charge. But not all those deliverables are looks. Attitude, personality, price, activities offered, schedule flexibility, location, and many other things matter. How much competition you have by ladies similar to you matters. There is no formula, but marketing and reputation can make up for many other things.

When you know who your work persona is, WORK AT IT. This job is not easy and the reality is most ladies in the business don't get rich at it, contrary to what the periodic uninformed posts from guys might say. There are a lot of ladies who have closer to 8 appointments in a month than 8 a day.

[Clara Turing]

Originally Posted by sexy.princess

Yes I have gotten that before. One guy told me I shouldn't even be asking for anything because I am too ugly and fat. I have changed my rates and it hasn't been going well. It may be because I'm not what a lot of guys are looking for which is skinny and curvy girls. Hobby has been very slow so far

You would get this attitude even if you a "perfect 10."
Some people just like to insult hookers.

Shake it off- Let it go.

They are not your clients, they are never going to be your clients- so their opinion is null and void.

[BigBaldBlk]

This may not be popular to say, but I say it all the time. Guys don't control rates for ladies, LADIES do with how busy they want to be! It may take awhile, but YOU will be able to decide how busy you want to be and the rate that accompanies it.

Ladies aren't judged (or shouldn't be) on their worth by their hourly donation, just on how busy they want to be! If you want to see two clients a day and 300 isn't working, then YOU need to adjust the rate to whatever it is to see two clients a day.

By the way it works both ways. I've seen ladies double their price and still busier than they want to be, so they bump their prices even higher. Good luck to you!

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by sexy.princess

I have noticed that BBW are often forced to be cheaper. Is this the same everywhere?

No one can force anyone to ddo anything. Its just what the market bears...

Usually BBW womens rates in their prospctive areas are just a tad cheaper than ladies of other sizes usually.....some BBWS use that tactic as financial incentive for guys who are curious or ones the fence. I've noticed this. But some also seek BBWS. But also have noticed that more conversly more BBWS per capita have full GFE menus to include CIM and swallows.

One of the reasons why I usually expect BBWs to be slightly cheaper with their rates for me just through my experience is mostly based on performance. Although I may see a BBW, I want her to have all the same capabilities physically as a spinner. If the spinner can balance her weight on her feet and hands and twerk her body up and down; I want the BBW to have the same capability. I know from experience most BBW providers can't stand being on top in Asian Cowgirl position due to weak leg muscles or limited dexterity for sexual positions that require core work on top. I use to see bbws far more thann other body typs but those reasons are usually why I dont see them as often today. I would see you though, because not all typical BBW factors apply to your particular body type. ( no protruding belly hanging over vagina that I have to lift to lick a clit,your probably more agile for positions due to our young age, can hold up your own legs independently during missionaary sex, etc.)

Originally Posted by sexy.princess

And how can these girls get better clientele? I ask because I'm curious and hobby is slow for now.

Your just starting out give it time. You have only two reviews but they are favorable. Good returning clientele takes time aandd effort. Hobby could just be slow for many, maybe guys find it too hot to cuddle with a more full figured woman in the hot summer mmonths and are saving their preferences for the colder weather, or it could be your advertised age. If you are 18 some clients might not think you will be mature enough with experience enough to back up good service acumen.

Originally Posted by sexy.princess

Plus, on one of my reviews a guy said I was a small BBW and this whole time I thought I was curvy lol. I guess I have to learn standard definitions right.

I would consider you the look of a small BBW. But thats mostly based on your short height in the 4 foot range. Curvy is not in the eye of the beholder, and curvy isn't necessarily grown just when people gain weight and weigh more. Curvy means round ass with waist slightly smaller, big tits. Your pics dont necessarily reflect that. More like a softball or volleyball player build. For example if you loost weight right now and toned up........your ass would be flat and not round. Its only round now based on the exxtra weight but described as curvy in the ass department would be a stretch. Maybe only iif you bendd over to maake it appear bigger, but not a round curve. By your own measuremennts in your showccase your sttomach and waist is the same size as your lower half. If your booty doesn't stick out you are not curvy, just thick. Sorta like spongebob squarepants with big breasts sorta looking, which isn't a bad thing. You are a small BBW. Just slightly round ass that would be nonexistent if you lost weight. Yes you are thicker in some places......but if you lifted your shirt your hips would be the same width as your stomach. Take a mirror pic while not holding your breath and show us different.

Generally no matter the body type(spinnner, petite, regular, thick, small bbw, bbw, superbbw) if you claim to be "curvy" you damn sure better be. Curvy is coke bottle........not a zima......or a miss butterworths syrup bottle shape.

I would describe you as a small bbw with thick glazing personally. If you lost weight or toned up your newfound BBW acquired ass would be flat or nonexistent. You look good though.

[jan-w]

I think you look very good. It probably also depends on the area. In KC, there aren't too many BBW providers but they seem to do about as well as the smaller ladies. I think as a BBW, you really have to be passionate and GFE in your sessions though. A hot spinner can get away with offering a lot less menu but the bigger ladies may not be able to do that. I don't know your menu but I would say that if you are personable and professional and give a great session, eventually you should do OK. I wish you were in KC! I love cute young BBW's.

[Alyssa Marie]

I would suggest to put out some money for nice photos.
Get some elegant, get some erotic and then whatever else floats your boat.
Focus on your p411.
I'm on the waiting list in Dallas to be in the top 10.

Make packages that appeal to regulars.

And lastly, do not listen to Wakeup.

Edit: after years of in and out of this, I finally had photos taken. I used to rely heavily on regulars, but I like to move and I like to travel.. Photos and your presence make a world of a difference.

[Guest043022]

Originally Posted by Alyssa Marie

I would suggest to put out some money for nice photos.
Get some elegant, get some erotic and then whatever else floats your boat.
Focus on your p411.
I'm on the waiting list in Dallas to be in the top 10.

Make packages that appeal to regulars.

And lastly, do not listen to Wakeup.

Edit: after years of in and out of this, I finally had photos taken. I used to rely heavily on regulars, but I like to move and I like to travel.. Photos and your presence make a world of a difference.

I agree on having professional photos taken.I work as an artist in addition to a real job and once I started using professional photographers to shoot my work, then it really took off from there.Professional photography does not cost,it PAYS!!