Is YMMV reality or an excuse?

[anova444]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Lots of places you see YMMV. The idea behind it is that if the time is less than stellar, it's the hobbyist's fault.

I would think that most ladies have a level of service they habitually provide. Then why does the session vary so drastically?

As a general rule, I think a lot of people (not all) are lazy, escorts included. Being lazy, it's easier to give a mediocre time than a stellar one. So is YMMV an excuse for laziness? Or is it squarely the hobbyist's fault.

BTW, I don't believe a poor/mediocre session can be solely blamed on the hobbyist, but I do believe it can solely be blamed on the escort.

It's both.

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by awl4knot

I don't mean to be judgmental or to make this a personal issue, but if you have such a negative view, why do you bother to see escorts at all? It can't be much fun if you have such negative expectations.

Word!

[Rudyard K]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

I was talking reality, not fiction.

But, as usual, RK, you insist on reveling in fiction.

Uh, Chucky!?...I wasn't talking about the reality of the story being lazy..I was talking about the potential writer being too lazy to do so.

Damn boy!! I've never heard anyone who wallows in his own misery more than you...and doesn't understand why everyone else is fairly happy.

[Guest110911]

MMMV...but always in my favor

[Nina Rae]

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

Millage does vary for the reasons JB pointed out and all the reasons in between. Throw into the pot that some people just plain and simply click while others absolutely don’t. That’s just the way it is. That’s the way it is in the dating arena; it’s just the way it is when interviewing for a job and it’s just the way it is when it comes to physical chemistry and intimacy.

In addition to JB's short list of "things a man can do to get a good reception", attitude plays a good part too. Not just the provider's, but the hobbyist's too. If you walk in as excited to see her as she is to see you, and ready to be open to a new experience...that goes a loooong way with me. I'm fresh for you, you're fresh for me. I'm smiling because I'm about to have some FUN! How 'bout you? "Clicking" is easier, I find, when you actually make an effort.

[Guest053011]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Lots of places you see YMMV. The idea behind it is that if the time is less than stellar, it's the hobbyist's fault.

Reality. It's not a matter of it being the "hobbyists fault". Nor does it necessarily mean that the session was disappointing because it was YMMV.

I for one find this idea of "menu items" quite distasteful. What happens happens, I have no lists of "acts" I guarantee. Like any civ date, we make out, we play, and things take a natural course of events. There's no list of things I do, no script. No two dates with the same man are the same, so it's impossible to start comparing dates with different gentlemen.

So each session is entirely different based on our chemistry and where our erotic energy naturally takes us. Those that believe in menu items call that YMMV.

BTW, I don't believe a poor/mediocre session can be solely blamed on the hobbyist, but I do believe it can solely be blamed on the escort.

I'm sorry but that's a disconcerting bias and disgusting attitude. A session can be disappointing for a variety of reasons, it can be the gents fault, it can be the ladies fault, it can be the fault of both parties. This isn't slave labour - if a guy is awful to a woman she shouldn't be expected to give him an amazing time regardless.

Why ask the question when you've already decided the answer?

[John Bull]

Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

,,,
I'm sorry but that's a disconcerting bias and disgusting attitude. A session can be disappointing for a variety of reasons, it can be the gents fault, it can be the ladies fault, it can be the fault of both parties. This isn't slave labour - if a guy is awful to a woman she shouldn't be expected to give him an amazing time regardless.

Why ask the question when you've already decided the answer?

Well, that's Charles for you. Oh Dear! How very unmodly of me. Devil made me do it, devil made me do it. No! It was WTF.

[DianaDeepthroats]

Your Mileage May Vary is a reality in all forms of life - If you're searching for a house, based on your credit score, YMMV on which types of houses you can get.. that's just one example.

What if you can't get it up? Does that count as a disappointing date that is "solely the hobbyist fault"?

Wait, don't answer that.
..........somehow. it'd be our fault.

[Sa_artman]

Originally Posted by Laurentius

But yes, YMMV is real. Hey, it DOES work both ways. I know guys who have faked orgasm to make a provider stop. Condoms are cool. LOL

I'm keeping that one to myself, but funny as shit.

[Rudyard K]

Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

I for one find this idea of "menu items" quite distasteful. What happens happens, I have no lists of "acts" I guarantee. Like any civ date, we make out, we play, and things take a natural course of events. There's no list of things I do, no script. No two dates with the same man are the same, so it's impossible to start comparing dates with different gentlemen.

Well Shoot!! I had a 3x5 cheat sheet with steps 1-5 already on it. And now you tell me you gals are gonna switch things up on me. What's a fella to do?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

Why ask the question when you've already decided the answer?

Originally Posted by John Bull

Well, that's Charles for you. Oh Dear! How very unmodly of me. Devil made me do it, devil made me do it. No! It was WTF.

My questions are ''thought provoking never been asked before'' type questions that only a true Libertarian can even possible think to ask. Some call it Rhetoric if you will with a spruce of mock-dialogue sprinkled in for spice.

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/rhetorical.html

The speaker is engaging in rhetoric, but the question asked is not a rhetorical question in the technical sense. Instead this is a mock-dialogue





My miliage is always good btw even when I don't get what I want, I get what I need. Well except for that time I woke up in Huntsville in a trailer house with a Rooster crowing in an open window with my first woman of color snuggled up next to me. I damn near broke my leg chasing that Rooster out the house when I fell thur a hole in the floor. I needed an escort that could haul ass out that neighborhood! couple of dbl entendres in there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIX0Z...eature=related

[Randy4Candy]

The way I look at any session is whether or not the lady is engaged in what is going on or going through the motions. Everyone is correct about things hobbyists do, or more correctly - do not do, especially with respect to hygiene that makes it tough for a provider to provide a nice session. However, there are also accounts of tunapuss, 5 o'clock leg/private area shadows, goat breath and other suchlike maladies on the providers' side as well. But, assuming both people have met the basic requirements of attitude and hygiene, YMMV should only be a factor in making a session rise above a base level.

As so many have been willing to point out, most things in life contain an element of YMMV. But there has to be some baseline standard from which the rationale to fork over the cash is justified. For me, that is the provider putting forth the effort to be engaged and hold up her end of the bargain. When that's the case and if I don't feel that the session is "all that," I can man-up enough to acknowledge that we didn't click. That scenario is really no big deal if certain minimum standards are met.

When clickage occurs then the session moves upwards from a standard, ok session - but to expect that to happen every time without fail is pretty naive. OTOH, if a provider thinks her standards cannot be met by a particular hobbyist, then she should decline the session and not take his money. One cannot have standards that are not double standards if each is not willing to run up the white flag and do the right thing in order to maintain those standards.

[nevergaveitathought]

The delving into the edgy world of personal services, especially dark nether reaches of sexuality, is fraught with susceptibility to individual reactions and the ability to "perform" is so very subjective and near impossible to control, by both parties. The observable manifestations of subjectively experienced emotions, which are largely the agent of the auto-eroticism of the mind, will vary, and vary widely.

sir, have you never heard of a turn-on, not to speak of a fetish? are people mere machines or do they actually feel? for every turn-on, there are turn-offs. one should be wise to expect variance.


the best one can do is be presentable, be friendly, obey the rules, and experience her both in reality and in the virutalness of your mind even as you are there.

[DianaDeepthroats]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

The delving into the edgy world of personal services, especially dark nether reaches of sexuality, is fraught with susceptibility to individual reactions and the ability to "perform" is so very subjective and near impossible to control, by both parties. The observable manifestations of subjectively experienced emotions, which are largely the agent of the auto-eroticism of the mind, will vary, and vary widely.

sir, have you never heard of a turn-on, not to speak of a fetish? are people mere machines or do they actually feel? for every turn-on, there are turn-offs. one should be wise to expect variance.


the best one can do is be presentable, be friendly, obey the rules, and experience her both in reality and in the virtualness of your mind even as you are there.

It sounds like you gave it plenty of thought.
I dig this answer.. great way to put it.

[Laurentius]

When you have a date with a woman instead of an appointment with a menu; and the fees you pay enable a lifestyle rather than paying for a service ... your mileage tends to vary upward.