Ladies, how honest are you?

[ElisabethWhispers]

No one is going to state that you have a big cock if your penis is average.

I've had doubles, a long time ago since I very rarely do those anymore, where I've seen the whole "Oh baby baby. Don't stop, baby" crap that one might imagine DOES happen.

But if you're shopping and looking for a more authentic experience, I sincerely believe that it's out there.

I'm certainly one of the ladies who sincerely attempts to give it her all.

Just my thoughts on it.

Again, good topic.

Sincerely,
Elisabeth

[Candence]

Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

No one is going to state that you have a big cock if your penis is average.

I've had doubles, a long time ago since I very rarely do those anymore, where I've seen the whole "Oh baby baby. Don't stop, baby" crap that one might imagine DOES happen.

Sincerely,
Elisabeth

You're so right sista!!! I know that "baby, baby stuff... does happen, but not with the more refined ladies that are commenting on this thread... as previously stated by ztonk! and thank you ztonk, for your astute observation!!!
C

[ElisabethWhispers]

Originally Posted by Candence

You're so right sista!!! I know that "baby, baby stuff... does happen, but not with the more refined ladies that are commenting on this thread... as previously stated by ztonk! and thank you ztonk, for your astute observation!!!
C

Oh, let me reminiscence for a moment.

I had been in the business for at most, a few years. I was still relatively new. And I had this client, who I actually liked, but he was a handful.

He scheduled an appointment during a trip to Dallas and brought with him a female "friend". Well, it was a surprise but hey, why not.

From the very SECOND his cock went into her mouth, she was on a level 8 with moaning and groaning. I have never seen anything like it.

It was like bad 70's porn. I looked at this experienced guy and he was smiling.

To this day, I don't know if they were yanking my chain or not but when I read of ladies "faking it", all that I imagine are those 2 hours of constant "Oh baby, that's great baby." and all of the really loud slurping, etc.

It was like she was faking an orgasm after about 30 seconds of giving him oral sex. It was unbelievable.

REALLY unbelievable. I cannot put into words what I actually saw but I'm betting that several of the men here have experienced it.

So I know where these guys are coming from. I've seen it.

But I'm not really familiar with stuff like that going on these days. I would think, at least if someone is somewhat mature, that for either party ... making superfluous noise and moans detracts from the time together. Not add to it.

[Candence]

Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

No one is going to state that you have a big cock if your penis is average.

I've had doubles, a long time ago since I very rarely do those anymore, where I've seen the whole "Oh baby baby. Don't stop, baby" crap that one might imagine DOES happen.

Sincerely,
Elisabeth

You're so right sista!!! I know that "baby, baby stuff... does happen, but not with the more refined ladies that are commenting on this thread... as previously stated by ztonk! and thank you ztonk, for your astute observation!!!
C

[SA Angel]

I'm new but I ALWAYS try to find something honest to compliment a client on. Sincerity can not be faked especially if you are looking them in the eyes.

I do this because when my partner feels good about himself it shows up in his performance. The rest of the session becomes more natural and I can get to my "peak" more often while we are together.

It might be little self serving......but hey, girls want MSOG too!

[Guest021716-4]

This is one of the things that hurts most about being a provider or whatever you want to call it. I was pretty naive and never really realized until this last year or so that men/people dismiss what I say or what I say I feel, because of it.

Yet, I do the same thing to hobbyist without even realizing it, at times.

I like to think of myself as being a pretty moral person with integrity. Sure, I screw up, but I don't believe in giving false compliments. I refuse to even fake orgasms. If it doesn't happen. It just doesn't happen.

I rationalize this work in my head like a little compartment I guess. I don't think of myself as a con woman or ego stroker. We either hit it off or not. That's just me. I dunno. This business is so tricky, no pun intended! At times, I question what is real and what's not. I think it's natural for both sides, but it's an unfortunate thing to have to wonder.

[Audrey Astor]

Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

I'll answer.

You've hit a nerve of a topic with me and I've commented on similar topics in the past.

I have clients call me a liar all of the time (which is what you did with your young friend) and it tends to either hurt my feelings or it pisses me off.

I don't give false compliments.

I have some short term memory loss going on, kindof a joke, and to try to remember false compliments is just too much for me to try to remember.

So for that reason, plus I don't like to lie, I only give compliments that are true and it'll be the same compliment and what I state will hold true when I see them again ... and sometimes, I don't see a friend for several months to sometimes, over a year or even two.

Most of the ladies that I've known follow a similar thought process. If someone is a good kisser, then they're just a good kisser. That does happen, you know.

We are women. We respond to a man's attention. And sometimes, more than what is often comfortable, we really respond and actually develop feelings for the men who see us.

I have personal boundaries but I've crossed them. So have others. This is a very personal thing that we do.

Being jaded is understandable. I fight it myself. In fact, I'm struggling a little bit with that right now because of some of the absolute crudeness that I have to address with the newer clients coming up the ranks.

They don't seem to know how to start a conversation with a hello and a name.

At any rate, I may sound harsh. I'm also on my iPad and so you're being spared a real diatribe because on another topic, I wish to address the idea of the "illusion" of passion that is kicked around on this board and in the past.

While that term had validity when it first showed up, it does a disservice to the women involved and it plays havoc on an already sensitive topic with men.

I've written about the whole lying thing on my website but it was a few years back. When I get some time, I'll try to link it here.

Good luck with finding answers. I'm sure others will chime in.

Hugs,
Elisabeth

Elisabeth said, exactly what I would have said. That, and I can honestly find something nice in just about everyone. Why lie, and have to keep a lie straight?

There are a lot of guys with really good DATY skills. LOL Take your compliment, and chuckle to yourself everytime you think about it. hehe

[Guest022718]

Originally Posted by Holly Love

Elisabeth said, exactly what I would have said. That, and I can honestly find something nice in just about everyone. Why lie, and have to keep a lie straight?

There are a lot of guys with really good DATY skills. LOL Take your compliment, and chuckle to yourself everytime you think about it. hehe

For me, this has been the most difficult thing about this activity. I've learned to accept compliments gracefully, but when a beautiful, experienced woman........ who could have her choice of any man she wants.......tells me I'm good at anything , it still seems too good to possibly be true.

[christylynn]

if i say something i truly mean it if i dont like something you do ill tell you about it. i understand the first time you are with anyone sexually for the first time u arent gonna be the 6 hr stud you are with your s/o. its apart of the lifestyle and i understand emotions and such. ill tell people straight to their face if something is off.

[Cpalmson]

Thanks to all the wonderful ladies for their responses.

[jttdfw]

I know you asked the ladies but I thought I would chime in on this. Being a psych student (returned to college, not a young kid), I find this question interesting.

So the reasons to lie,
1 to better the guys performance (so if complemented afterwards it would be true)
2 to insure you are a repeat client (if they WANT to see you again, THAT is a complement)
3 they are new and think they are obligated (you know they are new and know it can be a crap shoot)

Now, the reasons to be honest,
1 they see many men who are clueless and want to encourage those who know how to get it done.
2 the providers are women who enjoy pleasure as much as we do (maybe more in fact), and in general women show appreciation better than we do.
3 just like us, they are not all the same, you might daty one lady and she thinks it sucked, the next might think it was the best she ever had.

Finally, reason not to lie (I like this the best)
1 as you said, you have paid for their time, if they don't really like you or your performance, they lose nothing in staying silent.
2 for every provider there are many of us drooling men, they won't likely run out of us, there is no reason to lie.
3 (and the best) if she lied and said you were the greatest at anything, she would have to remember that for your next visit or get busted in that lie.

Anyway, that's my thoughts, ladies, please put me in my place if need be....no really I'm a sub so would like it!

[missi hart]

like most of the providers that have already commented, any compliment i give is going to be sincere. if i 'm going to stroke anything in a session, it certainly isn't going to be an ego! and no fake orgasms with me---when i cum there is lots of visual proof!

[houston_switch]

This is a very interesting thread... I try very hard to be in the moment with my dates... chemistry is important and so is the head space you have while on the date. I try to be at my best as a gentleman, and lover... yes lover, not f**k mate...
This did cause some friction on my last date in Las Vegas... she just did not like me using the term "making love" vs f**king... she said "making love" was to close...too emotional for her. At that point the chemistry went from warm to ice cold... and we parted ways quickly.
The hobby is not just a physical release, I can get that most any time... but I want emotional closeness during the time we are together...

[Gotyour6]

This is hilarious.

OMFG please spare me.

[JennsLolli]

I agree with a lot of the responses so far. Mainly "if you have an average dick, I won't say you're big." If I say you have a gorgeous cock, it's because it's aesthetically pleasing and I think it's gorgeous. I say it's big, it's big (and seeing as I've seen many a dick up close and personal, I have a pretty good measure of big vs. average). If it's neither big nor pretty, I uhh...won't say anything at all about your cock. You might have tasty cum, or great hands, or you might be a great kisser. If I say you're handsome, it's because I find you to be handsome (once again, as a provider, my definition of handsome is much different now than before).

All that being said, I don't make a point out of mentioning a client's assets in a session. I'm sure there are dozens of men who were handsome, great kissers, soulful, and with great lips, but I wasn't extra verbal about it for whatever reason. My goal isn't really "I'm going to stroke your ego with compliments to make you feel like a king" but more of a "I'm going to stroke your hair and rub my face on your balls to make you feel like a king."

As far as faking it...the surest way to get me to fake it is to say "I won't come until you do." Then I go into "fuck, I HAVE to come" mode and that's my boner killer, turns out. =)