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Old 04-22-2015, 01:09 PM   #16
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First, sending the TR the way he did is a strategic blunder. Carriers do not do interdiction duties. Carriers stand off and use their aircraft to put a protective umbrella over the destroyers doing the interdiction. They also provide offensive fire power if things get out of hand.

Take Reagan and the "Line of Death" in the Gulf of Sitra. He sent planes and destroyers to cross the line, not aircraft carriers. Obama is putting that ship in harm's way unnecessarily and a couple of Iranian missiles (purchased from Russian and China) can put it out of commission of they strike home. I can't wait for the stupid, uninformed comments now. Just think, Obama feels the same way you do. He just doesn't understand this shit.
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Were you raised as a Spanish speaker? You know, a langauge where they reverse the noun and verb (by our standards)? No Where, except in your fevered brow, did I say that there were NO destroyers there.




This are the ships that I served on. I went to the Persian Gulf....twice, did drug interdiction off the coast of Florida, and confronted Soviet ships in the Arctic Ocean. There is nothing that you can tell me about the navy or naval tactics. Now if you want to take exception to what the media writes (48 hours ago it was one ship, 24 hours ago it was two or more ships, and yesterday it became 9 or 10 ships) then you can do that. But to put an aircraft carrier in harms way for a publicity shot is sheer stupidity. If the TR was not moving to an new homeport (San Diego) then where would a carrier have been found to do this?
By every intimation in our first post, you would assume that no destroyers were sent, since you mentioned that a carrier was being put in harm's way, leaving us to assume no destroyer were there. And you lied, again. That article mentioning the 9-10 ships was from TWO days ago and you clearly state in the highlighted portion above that two days ago it was only two or more ships. Your inability to find and decipher news reports is your own fault, not theirs. I thank you for your service, but it does not preclude me from calling you out when incorrect. Your hatred of Obama clouds your intellectual ability to be honest in any given situation. I'm here to correct that.

You laid out a strategy that was false, not aware of the other ships present, simply because it gave you an opportunity to once again demean the president. I'm all for calling him out when it's necessary, but this isn't oen of those times.
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Old 04-22-2015, 02:52 PM   #17
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More stolen valor by our resident swabbie.
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Old 04-23-2015, 01:58 AM   #18
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By every intimation in our first post, you would assume that no destroyers were sent, since you mentioned that a carrier was being put in harm's way, leaving us to assume no destroyer were there. And you lied, again. That article mentioning the 9-10 ships was from TWO days ago and you clearly state in the highlighted portion above that two days ago it was only two or more ships. Your inability to find and decipher news reports is your own fault, not theirs. I thank you for your service, but it does not preclude me from calling you out when incorrect. Your hatred of Obama clouds your intellectual ability to be honest in any given situation. I'm here to correct that.

You laid out a strategy that was false, not aware of the other ships present, simply because it gave you an opportunity to once again demean the president. I'm all for calling him out when it's necessary, but this isn't oen of those times.
You assumed, your fuckup.
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Old 04-23-2015, 11:32 AM   #19
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You assumed, your fuckup.
No, the fuckup is all yours, assclown. You got caught out, bullshitting again and you aren't even man enough to just say you fucked up. You saw the carrier, decided to make a call and you were wrong. There are destroyers there, when you clearly stated that the carrier was being put in harm's way and that destroyers carried out interdictions. Well, that's what was happening, but in your hurried state to blame Obama for any perceived error, you fucked up. You're conspiratorial to boot. Your critical thinking and logic are questionable due to your insistence on 777s being repainted and hidden by bushes has yet to come to pass.


This is what you said:

First, sending the TR the way he did is a strategic blunder. Carriers do not do interdiction duties. Carriers stand off and use their aircraft to put a protective umbrella over the destroyers doing the interdiction. They also provide offensive fire power if things get out of hand.

Take Reagan and the "Line of Death" in the Gulf of Sitra. He sent planes and destroyers to cross the line, not aircraft carriers. Obama is putting that ship in harm's way unnecessarily and a couple of Iranian missiles (purchased from Russian and China) can put it out of commission of they strike home. I can't wait for the stupid, uninformed comments now. Just think, Obama feels the same way you do. He just doesn't understand this shit.

The stupid, uninformed comments came from YOU, sir. No one else. Now this lays it out there, it's clear you were wrong and stated incorrectly in your haste to blame supreme leader. You fucked up.
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Old 04-23-2015, 11:59 AM   #20
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I thank you for your service,
Save your breath. I highly doubt he's ever been in the navy. He claims he's been in the navy, has three degrees, is a college professor and (from his name) I assume he wanted to pretend to be a JD also. He can't prove any of it but he keeps banging the drum in every other thread.

The only thing he is is an idiot, and nothing else!
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Old 04-23-2015, 12:40 PM   #21
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Save your breath. I highly doubt he's ever been in the navy. He claims he's been in the navy, has three degrees, is a college professor and (from his name) I assume he wanted to pretend to be a JD also. He can't prove any of it but he keeps banging the drum in every other thread.

The only thing he is is an idiot, and nothing else!
It's the internet. People claim to be lots of things. Hell, Lusty Jizzbeard gets to act smart and have a few people take him seriously.
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