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12-12-2013, 09:08 AM
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Alot depends on the man...I've paid a high price and I've paid low price of one benjamin...you are not to high priced.
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12-12-2013, 09:09 AM
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Location: Orlando, FL
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Exactly I thought 220 was cheap but a hobbyist told me because I am new with no reviews I don't have the right to charge 220 for an hour . I found that comment ridiculous .
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Baby it sounds like he was looking to get a deal is all. Some girls will give a discount if a guy writes a review for her. I am sure if you told him that next time it was half off or some shit like that he would have wrote you a review talking about how your ***** was made of gold. Also remember that a lot of guys want girls on P411 to charge what girls on BP charge. I wish I could have bought a Ferrari for $100 but that shit ain't happening either. Personally I would rather pay more and get better than go cheap and get rushed out the door or have a one and done girl. But JMO
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12-12-2013, 09:11 AM
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Kia,
I think you real question might actually be:
Why are some men disrespectful enough to insult my rates? Why do they believe they are a better judge of how I value myself than I am?
Just my view. You got some great answers here, I'm going to send you a link where a similar topic when way off course...but it still has many many good answers. Good luck!
xoxo,
LMx
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12-12-2013, 09:16 AM
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I understand but I would never reduce myself to charging 40&50$ I feel I'm worth way more I am not judging anyone that charges that rate to me it's unacceptable .
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Please don't take this personally, I assure you it is not.
Besides agreeing 100% with hittingcoach, and I'm from his area too, I disagree almost as completely with your sentiment here. I'm sure your an amazing person who, as a human, is priceless. But I don't think an hour with you, or anyone is worth over $200. I'm talking lawyers, doctors, consultants, and lots of others that are somehow deemed of this unjustifiable and unsustainable value for their time. With 9 billion plus humans on the planet, no one would actually work for their true worth. So for $220, I'd rather have 40 Vietnamese shoemakers for a day than one lady for an hour.
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12-12-2013, 09:20 AM
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I am trying to see if I can get Blue Cross to pay for my provider now.
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Let me know how that goes; those crooked Blue Cross fucks wouldn't even pay for my therapist.
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12-12-2013, 09:26 AM
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If you provide a true, unrushed GFE experience, $220 is not at all an unrealistic rate in my area. The market is what the market is. My hobby opportunities are limited and I want to make them the best experiences they can possibly be. Cheapo rates don't normally fit that criteria. And cheapo rates always lead to me think "high volume", which certainly is a turn off for me. I do a ton of research on anyone I am thinking about seeing. Her rates are her rates and if I don't think she is worth it, I simply move on down the road. What's the point in insulting her by trying to haggle? I sure as hell don't want to do anything to sour the mood right off the bat.
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12-12-2013, 09:38 AM
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Please don't take this personally, I assure you it is not.
Besides agreeing 100% with hittingcoach, and I'm from his area too, I disagree almost as completely with your sentiment here. I'm sure your an amazing person who, as a human, is priceless. But I don't think an hour with you, or anyone is worth over $200. I'm talking lawyers, doctors, consultants, and lots of others that are somehow deemed of this unjustifiable and unsustainable value for their time. With 9 billion plus humans on the planet, no one would actually work for their true worth. So for $220, I'd rather have 40 Vietnamese shoemakers for a day than one lady for an hour.
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Well said, and i respect your opinion, but thank GOD other people think $200 an hour for some things is reasonable. Xoxo
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12-12-2013, 09:40 AM
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I value everyone's opinion Good or Bad I as a new provider will not change my rates so I guess that's why business have been slow . I take pride in my well being and health with that being said I won't do high volume nor risky acts and that has hurt my business but it's just part if the game I guess.
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12-12-2013, 09:42 AM
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Well said, and i respect your opinion, but thank GOD other people think $200 an hour for some things is reasonable. Xoxo
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Thank God for those people cause if you ask me I think 200$ is cheap .
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12-12-2013, 09:48 AM
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Kia, there is no single answer that will fit your question. I think there are some basics that are somewhat universal, and I will share some thoughts below. I realize there are ALWAYS exceptions, and guys who prefer (and will pay extra for) things that are the opposite of these general principles:
* Price goes up as provider's age goes down. Price goes down as provider's age goes up.
* The same usually applies to provider's weight; extra lbs = lower price
* Menu: if you offer what a guy gets with his SO...you have no price leverage. Especially since a guy can get it "bare" at home.
* It is always a buyer's market, not a seller's market. Truly, it does not matter what a girl thinks/believes/feels she is worth, it is simply what buyers are willing to pay. Hey, guys bring a lot to the table, too...but there is no marketplace full of buyers willing to pay for dick, so the going rate is $0.00 per hour.
* Much depends on the lifestyle of the provider; if she lives, acts, dresses, etc like a hoodrat, that will impact her fees.
* Location matters: street girls get one price, and Manhattan socialite providers get a different price. If you have a super nice place for incall, you get a little extra for that.
You have the right, certainly, to set your rates and services at whatever your comfort level may be. But to say that the comment about your price of 220 "was ridiculous" is incorrect. The current "market" in the Big Easy puts a 220 per hour fee in the upper range, especially for an "untested" product line. It is not hard to simply read recent reviews for independent providers, and get an idea of what THE BUYERS consider fair price for different products being marketed. You do realize that you are marketing a product, and you have competitors, right? Walmart may think they have better products than Target, but ultimately, a banana is just a banana, a taco is just a taco, and Walmart is constrained by Target (and vice-versa) in the price of these products.
Remember also, some women set a very high price indeed for what they consider the most precious commodity they can offer. They often demand cars, houses and wedding ceremonies...and they get their asking price, too!
Anyway, good luck out there. Only you can determine your threshholds and limits.
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12-12-2013, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by KiaKiss
I value everyone's opinion Good or Bad I as a new provider will not change my rates so I guess that's why business have been slow . I take pride in my well being and health with that being said I won't do high volume nor risky acts and that has hurt my business but it's just part if the game I guess.
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Actually, in my opinion, business is slow simply because you're a new provider...it takes time to build any business.
Additionally, you're not going to like it (and i don't want to have people make the whole thread about it) but no bbbj IS going to make many guys not see you. You can make it giving CBJ, but you really need to knock their socks off with your other GFE skills.
But that's your choice. But my advice is stick with what you're comfortable with and don't keep referring to BBBJ as a high risk activity, because people will see that as an indictment of their own choices.
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12-12-2013, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Wixchill
Kia, there is no single answer that will fit your question. I think there are some basics that are somewhat universal, and I will share some thoughts below. I realize there are ALWAYS exceptions, and guys who prefer (and will pay extra for) things that are the opposite of these general principles:
* Price goes up as provider's age goes down. Price goes down as provider's age goes up.
* The same usually applies to provider's weight; extra lbs = lower price
* Menu: if you offer what a guy gets with his SO...you have no price leverage. Especially since a guy can get it "bare" at home.
* It is always a buyer's market, not a seller's market. Truly, it does not matter what a girl thinks/believes/feels she is worth, it is simply what buyers are willing to pay. Hey, guys bring a lot to the table, too...but there is no marketplace full of buyers willing to pay for dick, so the going rate is $0.00 per hour.
* Much depends on the lifestyle of the provider; if she lives, acts, dresses, etc like a hoodrat, that will impact her fees.
* Location matters: street girls get one price, and Manhattan socialite providers get a different price. If you have a super nice place for incall, you get a little extra for that.
You have the right, certainly, to set your rates and services at whatever your comfort level may be. But to say that the comment about your price of 220 "was ridiculous" is incorrect. The current "market" in the Big Easy puts a 220 per hour fee in the upper range, especially for an "untested" product line. It is not hard to simply read recent reviews for independent providers, and get an idea of what THE BUYERS consider fair price for different products being marketed. You do realize that you are marketing a product, and you have competitors, right? Walmart may think they have better products than Target, but ultimately, a banana is just a banana, a taco is just a taco, and Walmart is constrained by Target (and vice-versa) in the price of these products.
Remember also, some women set a very high price indeed for what they consider the most precious commodity they can offer. They often demand cars, houses and wedding ceremonies...and they get their asking price, too!
Anyway, good luck out there. Only you can determine your threshholds and limits.
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I understand your point of view do I agree with everything you've said no. The age thing I can understand I am in my mid twenties and I consider myself a BBw with curves. I know the going rate in Nola isn't 220 but before I reduce myself into charging 40&50$ I would just go back into the Medical Field those prices are in insult .
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12-12-2013, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LilMynx69
Actually, in my opinion, business is slow simply because you're a new provider...it takes time to build any business.
Additionally, you're not going to like it (and i don't want to have people make the whole thread about it) but no bbbj IS going to make many guys not see you. You can make it giving CBJ, but you really need to knock their socks off with your other GFE skills.
But that's your choice. But my advice is stick with what you're comfortable with and don't keep referring to BBBJ as a high risk activity, because people will see that as an indictment of their own choices.
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I totally agree with you and I didn't mean to judge anyone with my comments about BBBJ maybe I should have worded it differently I am in no shape to judge anyone. I only said it was risky because I am looking at it from a medical point of view also I have spoke with a retired escort and she informed me she got herpes by providing bbbjs .
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12-12-2013, 10:06 AM
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I always was a firm believer of you get what you pay for cheap does not equal better.
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We don't always get what we pay for, and expensive is not always better either. Your rate is reasonable (not too expensive) to me, btw.
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Can somebody explain to me why would someone reduce themselves to charging 40& 50 $ and why would a man pay for that?
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If you mean 40 or 50, not 140 or 150, that does seem really low for full service (got links? mostly kidding). That could be on the low end (but not crazy low) for a bng. Anyway, my point is it might depend on the service(s) offered.
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12-12-2013, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by KiaKiss
I totally agree with you and I didn't mean to judge anyone with my comments about BBBJ maybe I should have worded it differently I am in no shape to judge anyone. I only said it was risky because I am looking at it from a medical point of view also I have spoke with a retired escort and she informed me she got herpes by providing bbbjs .
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Very true, but she could have gotten it from CFS because HPV and HSV are likely active in the areas NOT covered by a condom...during oral OR vaginal sex.
It's a risk...
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