In a world where you can’t rig or steal an election WTF

[Brot]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

The takeaway here is that both democrats and republicans believe that if someone is too stupid to follow simple instructions, they’re most likely to be voting for the democrat. If this wasn’t the case both sides wouldn’t be paying a zillion dollars in legal fees to litigate accepting/negating the ballot. Poor dems, it seems to be generally accepted that they’re dumb asf.

Most peoples reality, inclusion is required for support.

• Minority voters disproportionately lack ID. Nationally, up to 25% of African-American citizens of voting age lack government-issued photo ID, compared to only 8% of whites.
• States exclude forms of ID in a discriminatory manner. Texas allows concealed weapons permits for voting, but does not accept student ID cards. Until its voter ID law was struck down, North Carolina prohibited public assistance IDs and state employee ID cards, which are disproportionately held by Black voters. And until recently, Wisconsin permitted active duty military ID cards, but prohibited Veterans Affairs ID cards for voting.
• Voter ID laws are enforced in a discriminatory manner. A Caltech/MIT study found that minority voters are more frequently questioned about ID than are white voters.
• Voter ID laws reduce turnout among minority voters. Several studies, including a 2014 GAO study, have found that photo ID laws have a particularly depressive effect on turnout among racial minorities and other vulnerable groups, worsening the participation gap between voters of color and whites.[5]

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

The opinion most heard is that "there were not a sufficient number of fraudulent votes to overturn the election" not that there weren't examples of fraudulent votes.. There were many examples with Penn. being at the top of the list.


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...ction-to-trump


AP review finds far too little vote fraud to tip 2020 election to Trump



An Associated Press review of every potential case of voter fraud in the six battleground states disputed by former President Donald Trump has found fewer than 475 I think that counts as "more than a single instance"— a number that would have made no difference in the 2020 presidential election.

There will always be voter fraud in elections. Very rarely, except in elections in very small towns, does the fraud impact an election. I have read where one guy voted in 2 states. As stated in the article 5 cases of voter fraud were found in Wisconsin in 2020 out of 3.5 million votes cast. Unless proven otherwise, that is probably typical.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Brot

Most peoples reality, inclusion is required for support.

• Minority voters disproportionately lack ID. WHY?Nationally, up to 25% of African-American citizens of voting age lack government-issued photo ID, compared to only 8% of whites.
• States exclude forms of ID in a discriminatory manner. Then find out what ID's are accepted and get oneTexas allows concealed weapons permits for voting, but does not accept student ID cards. Until its voter ID law was struck down, North Carolina prohibited public assistance IDs and state employee ID cards, which are disproportionately held by Black voters. And until recently, Wisconsin permitted active duty military ID cards, but prohibited Veterans Affairs ID cards for voting.
• Voter ID laws are enforced in a discriminatory manner. A Caltech/MIT study found that minority voters are more frequently questioned about ID than are white voters. And if you have proper ID, you're all set to go no matter who questions you.
• Voter ID laws reduce turnout among minority voters. Several studies, including a 2014 GAO study, have found that photo ID laws have a particularly depressive effect on turnout among racial minorities and other vulnerable groups, worsening the participation gap between voters of color and whites.[5]

Again, why? When people find out they need a photo ID to do literally everything every day life includes, they get one. The vast majority of people, Black and White think photo ID's are a good thing and can see the reasoning behind it.


https://news.gallup.com/poll/403052/...hoto-laws.aspx


Eight in 10 Americans Favor Photo ID Laws



https://thefulcrum.us/voting/voter-id-laws


Most Americans favor voter ID laws, poll finds



This argument is BS and most Americans know it.

[oilfieldace]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Again, why? When people find out they need a photo ID to do literally everything every day life includes, they get one. The vast majority of people, Black and White think photo ID's are a good thing and can see the reasoning behind it.


https://news.gallup.com/poll/403052/...hoto-laws.aspx


Eight in 10 Americans Favor Photo ID Laws





https://thefulcrum.us/voting/voter-id-laws


Most Americans favor voter ID laws, poll finds



This argument is BS and most Americans know it.

There are 7 fucking legal ID’s any Texan can use, 7 legitimate fucking ID’s!! Texas is and hopefully always will be a red state. It is just too simple for some dumbasses to vote. My thought is if you vote to vote and find some reason not too, you are just too stupid to vote in the first place

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by Brot

Most peoples reality, inclusion is required for support.

• Minority voters disproportionately lack ID. Nationally, up to 25% of African-American citizens of voting age lack government-issued photo ID, compared to only 8% of whites.
• States exclude forms of ID in a discriminatory manner. Texas allows concealed weapons permits for voting, but does not accept student ID cards. Until its voter ID law was struck down, North Carolina prohibited public assistance IDs and state employee ID cards, which are disproportionately held by Black voters. And until recently, Wisconsin permitted active duty military ID cards, but prohibited Veterans Affairs ID cards for voting.
• Voter ID laws are enforced in a discriminatory manner. A Caltech/MIT study found that minority voters are more frequently questioned about ID than are white voters.
• Voter ID laws reduce turnout among minority voters. Several studies, including a 2014 GAO study, have found that photo ID laws have a particularly depressive effect on turnout among racial minorities and other vulnerable groups, worsening the participation gap between voters of color and whites.[5]

So, in your opinion, it’s only black people who are too stupid. If you say so, I guess.

However, regardless of your racist analysis, voter id wasn’t the subject of the litigation. My statement, that it’s generally accepted that many democrats are too dumb to follow simple ballot instructions, holds true.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

So, in your opinion, it’s only black people who are too stupid. If you say so, I guess.

However, regardless of your racist analysis, voter id wasn’t the subject of the litigation. My statement, that it’s generally accepted that many democrats are too dumb to follow simple ballot instructions, holds true.

That does seem to be in every case, what they are in fact saying. Has ANYBODY ever found a Black person that was denied getting an approved ID? Because then you would have a case but this notion that a poor Black person just can't get one of this ID's is BS and 80% of the American people know it.


And to continue to make this case says a lot about the people making it. It's bogus and everybody knows it.