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[sean rider]

Originally Posted by CG2014

Aren't they the same person?

NO

And while the news story mentions the possibility that the posts supposedly made by the provider in question were actually made by the pimp in question, with a bit more reading right here on ECCIE they could have verified that. !VI! didn't out herself. The pimp did when she left him.

So what have they done? They've helped the pimp spread his revenge porn, and helped the pimp out the former provider who never wanted her real life information spread by him.

I don't want to relitigate this here. Before you start arguing about this please avail yourself of the facts. Note that the pimp also posted as jjkageab12. Note that he pimped out "eevee" before "!VI!" And in both cases he outed them when they left him. This is documented in this thread:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1626747

Check the following posts: 478, 488, 489, 492, 498, and 517.

I have other information that substantially firms up the revenge aspect of this, but I can't post it here without revealing real life information against ECCIE rules.

Again, trying to avoid a repetitious brouhaha by simply pointing out what is already known.

p.s. The pimp has been moved yet again, and is now back in a federal facility again. Between the gun charges and parole violation they don't need any of the prostitution related stuff to keep him behind bars...where he belongs.

[CG2014]

YOU AGAIN????

Who are you? Her PR person? Her mouth piece?

The midget we keep reading about?

[sean rider]

I posted mainly because you accused me of also being SteveOTX. In other words accused me of violating ECCIE rules.

You should be more circumspect with your accusations.

[mrredcat43]

You sure do know more about this situation than most. Who are you really?

[Golden Man]

Originally Posted by sean rider

NO

And while the news story mentions the possibility that the posts supposedly made by the provider in question were actually made by the pimp in question, with a bit more reading right here on ECCIE they could have verified that. !VI! didn't out herself. The pimp did when she left him.

So what have they done? They've helped the pimp spread his revenge porn, and helped the pimp out the former provider who never wanted her real life information spread by him.

I don't want to relitigate this here. Before you start arguing about this please avail yourself of the facts. Note that the pimp also posted as jjkageab12. Note that he pimped out "eevee" before "!VI!" And in both cases he outed them when they left him. This is documented in this thread:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1626747

Check the following posts: 478, 488, 489, 492, 498, and 517.

I have other information that substantially firms up the revenge aspect of this, but I can't post it here without revealing real life information against ECCIE rules.

Again, trying to avoid a repetitious brouhaha by simply pointing out what is already known.

p.s. The pimp has been moved yet again, and is now back in a federal facility again. Between the gun charges and parole violation they don't need any of the prostitution related stuff to keep him behind bars...where he belongs.

I believe you that you are not SteveOtx, or VI. But after reading the article and reading your post and taking into consideration your viewpoint of the situation. I suspect that you are mentioned in the article, to be more specific I suspect you are the other roommate who VI started sleeping with leading to break up of her and the boyfriend currently dealing with the legal issue.

[Luke Skywalker]

Originally Posted by sean rider

NO

And while the news story mentions the possibility that the posts supposedly made by the provider in question were actually made by the pimp in question, with a bit more reading right here on ECCIE they could have verified that. !VI! didn't out herself. The pimp did when she left him.

So what have they done? They've helped the pimp spread his revenge porn, and helped the pimp out the former provider who never wanted her real life information spread by him.

I don't want to relitigate this here. Before you start arguing about this please avail yourself of the facts. Note that the pimp also posted as jjkageab12. Note that he pimped out "eevee" before "!VI!" And in both cases he outed them when they left him. This is documented in this thread:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1626747

Check the following posts: 478, 488, 489, 492, 498, and 517.

I have other information that substantially firms up the revenge aspect of this, but I can't post it here without revealing real life information against ECCIE rules.

Again, trying to avoid a repetitious brouhaha by simply pointing out what is already known.

p.s. The pimp has been moved yet again, and is now back in a federal facility again. Between the gun charges and parole violation they don't need any of the prostitution related stuff to keep him behind bars...where he belongs.

I agree with you. I remember the jk guy,with an anime avatar. It was obvious to be her alter ego, or his alter ego in this case. I dont think she ever posted here.

[PeterBota]

Old news.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by sean rider

I posted mainly because you accused me of also being SteveOTX. In other words accused me of violating ECCIE rules.

hey, don't sweat it.. people accuse me of being Chung Tran, and it sure FEELS like a violation of something

I hope this thread is the last we hear of that somebody and her nobody, the midget, and however many people are tied in together..

[GeminiGuy]

Originally Posted by sean rider

NO

And while the news story mentions the possibility that the posts supposedly made by the provider in question were actually made by the pimp in question, with a bit more reading right here on ECCIE they could have verified that. !VI! didn't out herself. The pimp did when she left him.

So what have they done? They've helped the pimp spread his revenge porn, and helped the pimp out the former provider who never wanted her real life information spread by him.

I don't want to relitigate this here. Before you start arguing about this please avail yourself of the facts. Note that the pimp also posted as jjkageab12. Note that he pimped out "eevee" before "!VI!" And in both cases he outed them when they left him. This is documented in this thread:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1626747

Check the following posts: 478, 488, 489, 492, 498, and 517.

I have other information that substantially firms up the revenge aspect of this, but I can't post it here without revealing real life information against ECCIE rules.

Again, trying to avoid a repetitious brouhaha by simply pointing out what is already known.

p.s. The pimp has been moved yet again, and is now back in a federal facility again. Between the gun charges and parole violation they don't need any of the prostitution related stuff to keep him behind bars...where he belongs.

Wow...I don't know your intent but my gut, and research, tells me your statements might be the most accurate yet as it relates to this entire crazy, sad fiasco. Your insight tells me you have first hand knowledge, are you one of her ex boyfriends? Doesn't matter, I hope the article, and all these threads, can now be put to rest so everyone can carry on...

[sean rider]

I'm none of the above, and have no personal connection to any of the principles in this story. It just made no sense to me that this provider, in order to protect herself, would out herself. That just makes no sense at all. What bothered me almost as much was that people on the board thought this somehow DID make sense.

I'm also a person who enjoys mysteries and puzzles. So this became the equivalent of a crossword puzzle or a who-done-it novel. I just followed one clue that led to another. All of the information I have is from publicly available sources. That's it. Just a random mystery solving guy willing to spend way too much time on a social puzzle. If I have any advantage at all it's that I have a very long history regarding the Internet and 'the hobby.' As in before there was a World Wide Web...at all. If I've learned anything it's that people all too often see conspiracies where there are none, even while they miss the one right under their nose. Confirmation bias is the enemy.

[TinMan]

Vi. Vi. Vi.

[Guest050619-1]

All of this is fine and good....but I kinda think we're missing the Big Picture here. Being my handle was mentioned in this article lends me to believe my 15 milli-seconds of fame and notoriety entitles Yours Truly to some free pussy from eccie's finest.

Ladies.....anyone...?

[Golden Man]

Originally Posted by sean rider

I'm none of the above, and have no personal connection to any of the principles in this story. It just made no sense to me that this provider, in order to protect herself, would out herself. That just makes no sense at all. What bothered me almost as much was that people on the board thought this somehow DID make sense.

I'm also a person who enjoys mysteries and puzzles. So this became the equivalent of a crossword puzzle or a who-done-it novel. I just followed one clue that led to another. All of the information I have is from publicly available sources. That's it. Just a random mystery solving guy willing to spend way too much time on a social puzzle. If I have any advantage at all it's that I have a very long history regarding the Internet and 'the hobby.' As in before there was a World Wide Web...at all. If I've learned anything it's that people all too often see conspiracies where there are none, even while they miss the one right under their nose. Confirmation bias is the enemy.

Sean, there is a real smoking gun in the thread link in your earlier post. It's post number "4"!. Leaving me with no doubt that she was always in control of her account.

1.Why would the so called pimp insinuate she was being forced into fucking guys on Eccie.
2. If you go back and read post made under VI , it's very obvious all of the post were written by the same person.
3. Anybody you has ever had any in person dialogue with VI, will also likely agree that the tone and style of writing in her post are a very much like her in person character and tone.
4. If you look at videos she shot in her dorm room, they are of a bunch of young guys just fucking her as a sport, none of there appeared to be compensating her for the action.
5. If this guy was a pimp, he was a piss poor pimp who who couldn't manage himself or his alleged whore, he'll VI spent most of her time on this site getting banned for fighting and insulting other providers and posters.

It just seems your view of the boyfriend and the shit show as a whole is very similar that of the other roommate mentioned in the article.

[Luke Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Chateau Becot

All of this is fine and good....but I kinda think we're missing the Big Picture here. Being my handle was mentioned in this article lends me to believe my 15 milli-seconds of fame and notoriety entitles Yours Truly to some free pussy from eccie's finest.

Ladies.....anyone...?

I second that. I also volunteer to hand pick the lucky one...

[sean rider]

Originally Posted by Golden Man

Sean, there is a real smoking gun in the thread link in your earlier post. It's post number "4"!. Leaving me with no doubt that she was always in control of her account.

1.Why would the so called pimp insinuate she was being forced into fucking guys on Eccie.
2. If you go back and read post made under VI , it's very obvious all of the post were written by the same person.
3. Anybody you has ever had any in person dialogue with VI, will also likely agree that the tone and style of writing in her post are a very much like her in person character and tone.
4. If you look at videos she shot in her dorm room, they are of a bunch of young guys just fucking her as a sport, none of there appeared to be compensating her for the action.
5. If this guy was a pimp, he was a piss poor pimp who who couldn't manage himself or his alleged whore, he'll VI spent most of her time on this site getting banned for fighting and insulting other providers and posters.

It just seems your view of the boyfriend and the shit show as a whole is very similar that of the other roommate mentioned in the article.

You are conflating things and falling into confirmation bias. Why assume those fighting posts are actually from the provider herself at all? Why assume that she either had a pimp or wasn't forced? It's possible (probable) she wasn't forced, but indeed had a pimp.

But this kind of guesswork is bettered by more solid evidence. Here is some of the evidence I can't fully detail further here.

* there is a phone number used by "eevee" in her ads that shows up in public records as belonging to the (now jailed) pimp.
* In the posts I listed there are further links that show after "eevee" left the business there were posts that appeared to be from her, but outed her. Just like what later happened to !VI!

I take the fact that both "eevee" and !VI! were pimped by the same (now jailed) guy, and there were online ads that appeared to be from them outing themselves when they quit, to be highly significant.

Why would these two women, both pimped by the same guy, both quit and then out themselves? They wouldn't. He made the posts that appeared to be from them.

However, that doesn't prove the allegations of force against !VI! Perhaps the pimp was kind...until she quit. But the pimp running blog posts as !VI! inviting rape, the statements of threats against people's "entire bloodline," and his purchasing 4 illegal handguns paints a troubling picture.