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Old 03-12-2014, 08:21 AM   #16
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News Flash For Obama Idiots:

That factoid is NOT a fact; but a poll result !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you have an insurance policy, the company you bought it from either already met the requirements of Obamacare, or changed the policy to meet the requirements of the law ... you're a portion of the very thing you bitch so much about ...

you're an Obamatron
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:26 AM   #17
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Spin all you want; it doesn't mean "Obamacare is gaining traction"..................... ...

In fact, most information shows Obamacare is hated more now than ever.................

But I guess that is a liberal's definition of success !!!!!!!
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:31 AM   #18
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Spin all you want; it doesn't mean "Obamacare is gaining traction"..................... ...

In fact, most information shows Obamacare is hated more now than ever.................

But I guess that is a liberal's definition of success !!!!!!!


spin hell, that's a FACT !!!


you're an Obamatron


or did your insurance company break the law just for YOU ?


Obama-way ... has a nice ring to it doesn't it ?


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Old 03-12-2014, 10:54 AM   #19
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iffy spiffy...
you're the one who said the aca was popular with prisoners'....ergo you must have first hand knowledge....what ever you do don't let your subscription to prison bitch magazine lapse....I'd hate to think you'd run out of resources for your great knowledge of men in jail....
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stevepar asite, no I have not corresponded with you... just use some grape jelly for your salad dressing... fruiter
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:17 AM   #20
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if you have an insurance policy, the company you bought it from either already met the requirements of Obamacare, or changed the policy to meet the requirements of the law...
Really CBJ? Then why did Odumbo extend the deadline for insurers to meet the requirements of Odumbocare (until after the 2014 elections) and encourage them to reinstate all those policies they cancelled?

What was that all about, tranny boy? Are you even paying attention?

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or did your insurance company break the law just for YOU ?
Speaking of "breaking the law", where does Odumbo have the authority to issue all the deadline extensions and waivers?
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:42 AM   #21
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ObamaCare's Secret Mandate Exemption
HHS quietly repeals the individual purchase rule for two more years.


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...trending_now_1

March 11, 2014 7:15 p.m. ET
ObamaCare's implementers continue to roam the battlefield and shoot their own wounded, and the latest casualty is the core of the Affordable Care Act—the individual mandate. To wit, last week the Administration quietly excused millions of people from the requirement to purchase health insurance or else pay a tax penalty.

This latest political reconstruction has received zero media notice, and the Health and Human Services Department didn't think the details were worth discussing in a conference call, press materials or fact sheet. Instead, the mandate suspension was buried in an unrelated rule that was meant to preserve some health plans that don't comply with ObamaCare benefit and redistribution mandates. Our sources only noticed the change this week.

That seven-page technical bulletin includes a paragraph and footnote that casually mention that a rule in a separate December 2013 bulletin would be extended for two more years, until 2016. Lo and behold, it turns out this second rule, which was supposed to last for only a year, allows Americans whose coverage was cancelled to opt out of the mandate altogether.

In 2013, HHS decided that ObamaCare's wave of policy terminations qualified as a "hardship" that entitled people to a special type of coverage designed for people under age 30 or a mandate exemption. HHS originally defined and reserved hardship exemptions for the truly down and out such as battered women, the evicted and bankrupts.

But amid the post-rollout political backlash, last week the agency created a new category: Now all you need to do is fill out a form attesting that your plan was cancelled and that you "believe that the plan options available in the [ObamaCare] Marketplace in your area are more expensive than your cancelled health insurance policy" or "you consider other available policies unaffordable."

This lax standard—no formula or hard test beyond a person's belief—at least ostensibly requires proof such as an insurer termination notice. But people can also qualify for hardships for the unspecified nonreason that "you experienced another hardship in obtaining health insurance," which only requires "documentation if possible." And yet another waiver is available to those who say they are merely unable to afford coverage, regardless of their prior insurance. In a word, these shifting legal benchmarks offer an exemption to everyone who conceivably wants one.

Keep in mind that the White House argued at the Supreme Court that the individual mandate to buy insurance was indispensable to the law's success, and President Obama continues to say he'd veto the bipartisan bills that would delay or repeal it. So why are ObamaCare liberals silently gutting their own creation now?

The answers are the implementation fiasco and politics. HHS revealed Tuesday that only 940,000 people signed up for an ObamaCare plan in February, bringing the total to about 4.2 million, well below the original 5.7 million projection. The predicted "surge" of young beneficiaries isn't materializing even as the end-of-March deadline approaches, and enrollment decelerated in February.

Meanwhile, a McKinsey & Company survey reports that a mere 27% of people joining the exchanges were previously uninsured through February. The survey also found that about half of people who shopped for a plan but did not enroll said premiums were too expensive, even though 80% of this group qualify for subsidies. Some substantial share of the people ObamaCare is supposed to help say it is a bad financial value. You might even call it a hardship.

HHS is also trying to pre-empt the inevitable political blowback from the nasty 2015 tax surprise of fining the uninsured for being uninsured, which could help reopen ObamaCare if voters elect a Republican Senate this November. Keeping its mandate waiver secret for now is an attempt get past November and in the meantime sign up as many people as possible for government-subsidized health care. Our sources in the insurance industry are worried the regulatory loophole sets a mandate non-enforcement precedent, and they're probably right. The longer it is not enforced, the less likely any President will enforce it.

The larger point is that there have been so many unilateral executive waivers and delays that ObamaCare must be unrecognizable to its drafters, to the extent they ever knew what the law contained.
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:31 PM   #22
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look on the bright side Iffie .... sooner or later you'll be an Obamatron !!!

and there's not a DAMN thing you can do about it ..

bbbbbaaawwwaaaahahahahahahahah ahahahaha
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Old 03-12-2014, 09:20 PM   #23
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the topic was "obamacare gaining traction" ... the graph proves exactly that ...try and keep up
Actually, it doesn't. However, it does show that we were better off before Obamacare, but you won't understand that, because you are an ObamaTON.

Now try to understand. The ObamaTRON is the big machine in Chicago that transmits all the Obama talking points and bilge that dutiful ObamaTONs like you repeat mindlessly, and then erroneously think they won the argument.

You are the quintessential ObamaTON because you faithfully repeat what the ObamaTRON feeds you, regardless of how outrageous or ridiculous it is.

Keep up the good work, CBJ7. It's much easier than thinking for yourself, which we all know is a talent you lack.

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Old 03-12-2014, 09:33 PM   #24
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look on the bright side Iffie .... sooner or later you'll be an Obamatron !!!

and there's not a DAMN thing you can do about it ..

bbbbbaaawwwaaaahahahahahahahah ahahahaha
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Old 03-12-2014, 10:49 PM   #25
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Actually, it doesn't. However, it does show that we were better off before Obamacare, but you won't understand that, because you are an ObamaTON.

Now try to understand. The ObamaTRON is the big machine in Chicago that transmits all the Obama talking points and bilge that dutiful ObamaTONs like you repeat mindlessly, and then erroneously think they won the argument.

You are the quintessential ObamaTON because you faithfully repeat what the ObamaTRON feeds you, regardless of how outrageous or ridiculous it is.

Keep up the good work, CBJ7. It's much easier than thinking for yourself, which we all know is a talent you lack.



you're an idiot .. better off how?


http://www.cdc.gov/workplacehealthpr...ns/rising.html


kiss my Texas ass old timer..
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Old 03-12-2014, 10:58 PM   #26
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I was just looking at the graph YOU posted, CBJ7. That's what it says. Sorry you don't understand your own post. Ask the Obamatron.
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:04 PM   #27
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I was just looking at the graph YOU posted, CBJ7. That's what it says. Sorry you don't understand your own post. Ask the Obamatron.

looking at the graph and talking out you ass ... as usual you're clueless, same shit from you different day ..

read the increases in healthcare cost from 2000 to 2007 and remind everyone how they were BETTER OFF ...

fuck off dipshit.
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Old 03-13-2014, 05:57 AM   #28
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if you have an insurance policy, the company you bought it from either already met the requirements of Obamacare, or changed the policy to meet the requirements of the law ... you're a portion of the very thing you bitch so much about ...

you're an Obamatron
Your assumption is wrong ...

....that ALL medical insurance must comply with the requirements of the ACA.

Requiring availability of a product is not the same as requiring all products be consistent. People are losing their existing coverage, because they are getting their coverage through limited sources ... like their employer, which negotiates with carriers for certain coverage within several options available to the employees and their dependents.

Those of you "in love" with Obama and his albatros (ACA) keep up a propoganda mantra to make it look successful .. it's not.... not even close.
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Two weeks away from the beginning of the debt spiral and there are 3 people that are still supporting this failure....Thank you ECCIE for the comedy
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Old 03-13-2014, 06:27 AM   #30
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and now we have the new (not really) hardship exemptions. 14 different reasons that you can claim a hardship and NOT have to pay for your healthcare. Guess who is going to pay for it? These were revealed months ago by the WSJ but no one was paying attention. Now they are talking about it. A person can claim that they lost their healthcare because of Obamacare or that the websites were FUBAR'd and they get an exemption.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/12...te-paper-tiger
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