SA question.

[klassygerl]

Yeah I understand wanting to find new girls for sure. Naive cheaper not yet jaded... haha this is true for me wanting to find a daddy also! Well except the cheaper part. Which actually is true because if I went by the hour it would never work on vacations etc.

[klassygerl]

Yes

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by klassygerl

Yeah I understand wanting to find new girls for sure. Naive cheaper not yet jaded...

Not sure if this is what you were implying, but just because someone is cheaper does not make them naive

I have not been on SA for a while now. I used to prefer making arrangements with girls I met off CL. No longer an option. But whether it be SA or elsewhere, I prefer a NSA intimate arrangement that is ongoing - and my arrangements never included travel, dates, etc - just BCD time. I would rather find one girl I can see on a consistent basis, yes, at a lower rate, who is not seeing a number of guys - than any other option.

So while I have never reported anyone on SA, I can imagine there are other guys who feel the same way. And thus pros would cause an issue being on SA

If I want some variety, I go to a pro who I can see for a hhr or an hr. But if I want an arrangement - I want something ongoing and I look on SA or elsewhere to find that

[spazzer]

Very well put Berry. Age, cost, experience, none of it makes any difference. I've had much better sex with young girls than older. Vice versa. Better sex for taco bell and a phone bill than a 300/hr provider. Vice versa.

When I go to SA I want the girl that's exclusive or sees maybe a few a month. Not somebody that does it for a profession. The other thing is bitchy comments on each side...you're not worth that much...you're this or that. Leave it angry and your chance of getting reported goes way up.

[IMGTH58]

We all know SA walks that extremely fine line. I have no problem with "pros," on or off SA. it's just my preference to enjoy the occasional company of someone who has a regular job and does SA "on the side," and isn't needy (either financially or emotionally) and enjoy some (but not too much) off the clock time in addition to BCD. Maybe I'm foolish for that view, but it's generally worked for me.

[Lexxxy]

I've been off and on sa for years. I've never kicked off, not even blatantly as Lexxxy. One of my besties (that isn't even a pro) gets kicked off sometimes, we can't figure out why. I usually leave sa when it gets too stressful and attention draining or I find who I am looking for. I ask for more on sa because it's more work with the attention (texts, emails, phone calls...) and ego stroking the Gents want. I even come right out and ask them to get me things on my Amazon wish list or send me gift cards when they are clingy with constant messages right off the bat. It isn't to be a bitch, it's to enforce that this is still a business thing even though it's between gf and pro. One hand washes the other. I'll cook, bake, massage, do laundry, and get banged like a screen door in a hurricane. I have no problems treating a Gent like my King as long as I'm spoiled like a princess.

[klassygerl]

Those where not to be combined I should have put a OR in there I suppose. I do not correlate being naïve as being cheap. I also understand that a lot of woman prefer q.v. very detached sessions and will charge less because they don’t like any form of real intimacy. I personally would feel horrible with a interaction like that. There is someone for everyone for sure!

[klassygerl]

Lexxxy that’s crazy! I got scrutinized when trying to re-join sa. They were particular about my email photos etc. probably because I fought having my account closed because the person who reported me reported me for something I did not do and I had a screenshot it to prove it.

I am the sweetest ever and will block someone quick before wasting my time with back and forth meanness. Which doesn’t happen often but sometimes people forget there are humans behind their phone screens that they are communicating with.

That is a great plan that you have and will use it in regards to asking for wish list items etc. It does seem that guys just want to chat forever before they get the courage to meet. Which I did too.. it took me forever on sa to finally meet the first guy! I kept chickening out and wasting guys time.

[tolstoy]

Originally Posted by bambino

I’ve never joined SA, but the guys I know who are members don’t want Pros permeating the site. I don’t think SA wants them either. I guess they don’t want LE snooping around. I think they probably already are.

Right after FOSTA went-into-effect the owner of SA, that SAS (Smooth Asian Stud) Brandon Wade, posted a video on SA plying a new "this is not a prostitution site" BLAH/BLAH/BLAH line. Not sure if he really believes that. Maybe he was just trying to legit "cover his ass" in the new FOSTA environment.....

There are Pro Ho's, "Street" Ho's, "Civilian" Hookers, "Beginner Hookers" and all types of hookers in the margins of these broad hobby-types, all over SA. Many SA girls will bang a guy for cash "sight unseen" as fast as he can get to her geographical area and pick her up. Too many SA girls, particularly the Beginner Hookers, want to see Face pics of hobby-johns. Many (many) SA girls have a "I am not a prostitute!" attitude, and many of THOSE girls will bang for cash THAT day that you first contact them, and they will bang guys "sight unseen" and with no Face pics or preliminaries....

"It takes all kinds" on SA. It is a weird mix of Eharmony, Match.com (where girls want to "get-to-know" guys) and "legit" hobby sites like Eccie and TOS, and (yes) the "street" scenes of the old CL and BP and other sites. Full variety of "types" of girls on SA, with and without varied levels of real hobby experience.....

I assume it's the same with the variety of guys who are on there. Guys who "know what they are doing" with the hobby and the misanthropic "Slobbyists" who alienate and antagonize girls. Many hobbyists personally are what Thomas Hobbes said about life without civilized-government: many hobbyists ("Slobbyists") are "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short." I wish I could say I thought up the Hobbes reference but I read it from an experienced ho years back.....

SA is a TRIP, no doubt about it. The most entertaining hobby-scene to emerge in PGH since the old ASPD and then the advent of TOS in 2005 which basically took-over the whole PGH hobby-scene, and most of the hobby-scene of OH too. SA is a different universe- "of the hobby" and also it's own unique scene.....

There are Pro Ho's and "civilian" girls on SA who Perform Like Porn Stars and there are girls on SA who don't-know-their-way-around-a-dick. I have got BBBJ's from SA girls and honestly wondered if they had ever done it before. One girl Refused to do BBBJ's, and I saw her BCD twice because she is HOT and fun to bang. She inquired about a third session and I replied "Not until you start giving BBBJ's." Her response: "What are BBBJ's?" That exchange would never happen on Eccie or TOS.....

SA is "what you make of it." I'm cool with it but I don't like the "process" there. I don't like any "let's get to know each other" stuff and I don't send my Face pics to hobby-people. My refusal to send Face pics to SA girls I estimate "cuts in half" all my action there. For any guy who is in the mood for SA it can be a good time. Other guys I imagine might get tired of it....

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by klassygerl

Those where not to be combined I should have put a OR in there I suppose. I do not correlate being naïve as being cheap. I also understand that a lot of woman prefer q.v. very detached sessions and will charge less because they don’t like any form of real intimacy. I personally would feel horrible with a interaction like that. There is someone for everyone for sure!

Ok, but to be clear - I was not referring to pros who do QV sessions. I was referring to the non-pro's you can find who do not do this as a profession but only see one or two guys on a consistent basis to supplement their income a bit - and to help fill their sexual needs. Several have told me dating is rough these days with dimwitted younger guys - so they do this as an alternative

[Gabrielle]

pros·ti·tute
noun
1.
a person, in particular a woman, who engages in sexual activity for payment.

Same thing, same definition.

SA girls take money to suck your cock? They are a pro. Period.

Guys who are looking for an actual arrangement, do just that...most not on SA, most with their fav provider.

Many of the guys on SA are just low-ballers in my experience.

Sorry you got the boot because of tattletales.

[suspiciouscouch]

Originally Posted by Gabrielle

pros·ti·tute
noun
1.
a person, in particular a woman, who engages in sexual activity for payment.

Same thing, same definition.

SA girls take money to suck your cock? They are a pro. Period.

Guys who are looking for an actual arrangement, do just that...most not on SA, most with their fav provider.

Many of the guys on SA are just low-ballers in my experience.

Sorry you got the boot because of tattletales.

It's all fuzzy lines, if I take you to Wendy's and you suck my dick are you a pro? What if I take you to Capital Grille? What if I pay your cable bill? What if you live in my house?

The big difference to me is whether the girl is actually part of your life, or you just fuck her from time to time.

I've had friends with benefits where I show up with a pizza and we fuck. I don't think I was trading pizza for sex.

A LOT of girls on SA want a guy that has interests beyond videogames, can find the clit, and can go someone nice for dinner. I've handed cash to girls on SA maybe 75% of the time the first time anything sexual happened. Most stop wanting cash by the 3rd meet. It's just a different ballgame than Indy's or Craigslist.

[Lane Meyer]

Originally Posted by Gabrielle

Many of the guys on SA are just low-ballers in my experience.

Your experiences may just be a realization of your SA market value. On SA you would be in the bottom 5% of a site where the top 5% can be had for $200 or less per meet. It’s not the guys lowballing it’s you having delusions of grandeur.

I just turned 31, I have two girls off SA I’m curently in relationships with one for 6 months one for 3 months. No cash is ever exchanged, gifts are bought for them and they buy for me. Both ladies will treat me to a night out as much as I treat them. Not sure if they would be considered prostitutes.

But all that’s not cause I’m cheap I still see 5 or so ladies a week. I spent $5000 last weekend on a porn star in LA for a 24hr date. Hope that’s not being cheap but just paying for quality.

[Gabrielle]

Originally Posted by Lane Meyer

I just turned 31, I have two girls off SA I’m curently in relationships with one for 6 months one for 3 months. No cash is ever exchanged, gifts are bought for them and they buy for me. Both ladies will treat me to a night out as much as I treat them. Not sure if they would be considered prostitutes.

Why you so angry? You don't even know me? You know nothing about me, yet you think it's your place to put me in my place? What's your real board identity, coward?

I do wonder...are the two girls you are in "relationships" with, two of the four reviews you posted within days of becoming a "new member"?

Side note - didn't somebody say... bragging only means you're not use to having it? Or something like that? It's ok little buddy, you'll get use to it one day.

SA is prostitution. Plain and simple. If you're looking for sex in exchange for an "arrangement" it's pros...wait for it...tit..ution! Providers, sugar babies, amature porn stars, pro porn stars...if you're paying for it...it is the same thing, different biz model.

[SD78]

That didn't look angry to me.