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Originally Posted by M A X
I agree. That's why I was indicating all that I was....let's hear something new and innovative.
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OK. How about this. While I was in the hobby, I listed what I wanted in my p411 profile and a provider who would want this sort of business would have been assured that I would have been a regular, since I wasn't into the hassle that goes along with the flavor of the month. My list included:
(1) A low volume provider. By low volume, I meant that at the very least, I wanted to be her only appointment on the days I saw her. I asked what kind of time I had to book for an appointment and a rate to ensure that.
(2) I also wanted her to be low volume to the extent that the hours I spent were with a GFE who wasn't stuck in ``provider mode.'' Being really detached results in obviously mechanical/scripted sex.
(3) I expected freshly laundered bed linen and a well kept incall.
(4) I typically scheduled a week in advance to ensure that I was free, so I expected the appontment to take place close to the scheduled time, especially since I was paying for her to keep the day free of other appointments.
(5) I wanted calls returned reasonably soon so that we could find a good time to meet and that I could arrange my own schedule to make the appointment. By reasonably soon, I thought 24 hours more or less was reasonable barring unusual circumstances.
I thought the right sort of provider for this would be a provider who preferred the trade-offs in seeing a few clients for multi-hour appointments over many one hour clients. In exchange, I was expecting to schedule several multi-hour appointments/month and pay the full rate for any appointment I cancelled with less than 48 hours notice. (And I did pay $600.00 to cancel an appointment with no expectation of a discounted make up.)
Almost every provider I ever contacted through p411 assured me that the above was no problem if I would book as little as 2 hours. That generally translated into about 2k/month for a fairly easy appointment, since I'm rather vanilla and things like anal don't really interest me. One did tell me that her idea of low volume was 2-3 clients/day and didn't think she'd be what I wanted.
Another was honest enough to tell me that she was always going to be in ``provider mode'' when she was with a client and although I had a couple of fun sessions with her (and her partner in crime) her business model didn't work well with what I wanted.
(1) and (3) were usually met, although at least one provider didn't think it was necessary to make me her only appointment simply because she told me she would and charged me as if she had. Several couldn't keep appointment times or return calls. In each case, I figured 3-4 2+ hour appointments should have been sufficient to decide to stay or look elsewhere. The real killer was (2) and in my opinion, that was more due to a high volume business model and an overconfidence in acting ability based on what a lot of 1 hour clients expected.
I met only one provider who really did run her business like that and she was UTR and had a day job, which I would have thought would make it more difficult to be in the right frame of mind to see a client after work than someone who presumably had most of the day free. She got all of my business for the rest of time I spent in the hobby. I didn't understand why there weren't more who didn't see multi-hour clients who were spending at least some of their money for more personal sessions as a niche market. I can understand the difficulty in getting out of ``provider mode'' and not scripting sesions, but providers do advertise that sort of thing so I assume they should really want to acheive that.
What about a niche market for multi-hour clients who would book multiple hours more frequently if the multi-hour discount was really meaningful. I mean. is it really worth it to see 3 one-hour clients and have an hour buffer time between clients who may not show than to book one client for 3 hours with zero buffer time for a rate that offers more incentive than 3 x 1 hour? Seriously. I once wrote to a provider with a rate of $$$/hour and asked for a three hour rate. Her rate for three hours was 1k. Had it been 7$, I wouldn't have thought twice about scheduling on the spot. I evaluated a providers interest in multi-hout clients by the way her rate scaled with additional hours. If it didn't scale well, I assumed she would rather do a lot of 1 hour sessions than do multi-hour sessions. I didn't think haggling or negotiated was proper decorum, so I simply skipped to the next ad/website/p411 profile. Considering those sorts of details is one way to appeal to specific clients.
I'm sure there is a niche market for non-gfe providers. I know a provider wo did very well without being a gfe or even pretending to be and her rate was higher than average. She was also available and life didn't didn't get in the way because she was organized, not because she had no life to get in the way.
What about a high volume niche market for clients who have tight schedules and would be willing topay a somewhat lower rate, but get in and get out in under an hour, but expect to count on not being rescheduled or nc/ns'd? That would seem to fit a provider who wants to go to work, be (really) available for
most of the day and go home.
What about a niche market for overnights? I did a few overnights, but quite frankly, they amounted to more or less a date with the same bcd time I'd get by booking 2 hours. (I wasn't really a difficult client, bcd.) That would have been ok if I wasn't spending $15-$20 to do that. Since I wasn't one to ever discuss rates beyond wanting to know what it was, I just didn't book many overnights.
All of those are business models that fit providers with different preferences. The only difficult part would seem to be choosing a model that fits the way a provider wants to run her business and will run her business. Many providers seem to want to be all of the above to fit whatever a client wants, but seriously, I don't think that's possible, nor even good for establishing a regular clientele.
All of that may seem obvious, but I've never been able to determine much of that from the ads I read. For the most part, my impression was ``I am whatever you want me to be,'' which meant the only real criteria as far as the advertising was concerned was price. If competing on price is not what providers want to do, stop competing on price and offer some meaningful differences that allow clients to base choices on something other than price.
I've wriiten a few p411 profiles, so I know it's possible to attract clients who want specific qualities and who will pay for those qualities.