NO PIPELINE! Thanks Mr. President

[CuteOldGuy]

Uh oh, WE, Stevie, HIs Assholiness, and I all agree on something? 2012 IS the end of world, isn't it?

[I B Hankering]

Note the number of pipelines that already crisscross Nebraska. Many of them were laid in the '60s and have been there for 50 years.

[Jackie S]

This is what happens when you let totally unqualified people make decisions concerning major projects that will aid the Country for decades to come.

Most of you are not old enough to remember when the Alaskan Pipeline was proposed. The same arguments were put forth then, but the adults won the arguement and it's safety record has been top notch.

Idiots.

[Little Stevie]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Note the number of pipelines that already crisscross Nebraska. Many of them were laid in the '60s and have been there for 50 years.

And none of the pipelines have EVER leaked without immediate detection and none of the LEAKS have ever made it through the ground or into bodies of water far enough to contaminate any aquifers. SURE!

HELL, one East Texas pipeline leaked less than 10 years ago and the resulting pocket of leaked natural gas BLEW THE FUCKING SHIT out of a young couple who were minding there own business driving through the area when their car ignited the leaked natural gas.

[Little Stevie]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Stupid shit, your reading comprehension is worse than WTF's.

The US went to Canada with concerns that the production from oil sands produced more CO2 and had more environmental impact than normal oil production. Canada told them to mind their own business. Canada admitted when they backed out of Kyoto in part because their CO2 footprint was growing due to the oil sands production.

This is the "talking point" that Obama is pissed off about because he has no control over Canada and cannot appease the eviro-nazis on this issue. It has nothing to do with the aquifer. My understanding is there's an oil pipeline already running thru the aquifer.

Have fun riding your unicorn to the polls. Hope your alarm clock is powered by Solyndra energy.

You have no comprehension of contingent liabilities and you seem incapable of thinking outside the box dictated by the Teapublicans. Grow a brain and realize there are other concerns.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Stevie, you are truly an idiot. The backup plan is for Canada to pipe the oil to British Columbia, where it will be loaded on Chinese tankers. Do you try to be this stupid, or does it come naturally to you?

And Wave, please let me know where the last three major pipeline leaks occurred, and the what the consequences were. Thank you.

Since you are both equally limited in comprehension, you get the same admonition gnadfly got - You have no comprehension of contingent liabilities and you seem incapable of thinking outside the box dictated by the Teapublicans. Grow a brain and realize there are other concerns.

Originally Posted by Jackie S

This is what happens when you let totally unqualified people make decisions concerning major projects that will aid the Country for decades to come.

Most of you are not old enough to remember when the Alaskan Pipeline was proposed. The same arguments were put forth then, but the adults won the arguement and it's safety record has been top notch.


Idiots.

Idiots? It's "argument" and "top notch" is not perfect. We've allowed those of you who think you KNOW something to foul the planet with OTHER than perfect safety and spill records.

Tell you what. I'll get you a ten foot pole and you can be a "target holder" at a gun range. Most of the people who practice their shooting are top notch. I know I am. But why don't you humor me and prove that people don't miss their targets by 10 feet or more.

You "Drill, Baby, Drill" yahoos are screaming to let them continue offshore production in deep water with the same 30 year old blowout protectors. Yep, you people who know so much are the ones destroying the planet.

[CuteOldGuy]

Uh, the planet seems to be in fine shape. And please provide a link to your pipeline disaster.

Using your logic, we should not produce any more cars, because they can harm someone. And M&Ms are out, because you could choke.

Nothing is perfectly safe. Pipeline technology is very close to it. Why are you opposed to jobs for Americans?

[waverunner234]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

And Wave, please let me know where the last three major pipeline leaks occurred, and the what the consequences were. Thank you.

Davenport ------------- 2 hours ago
Big Spring -------------- 6 hours ago
Cape Cod -------------- 9 hours ago

Need more?

Oh, San Diego, about every other week.

I don't even dare to look at Los Angeles, or Cleveland, or Memphis or so

[CuteOldGuy]

Consequences? Links?

[JD Barleycorn]

The reason they are drilling in deep water is because the environmental nazis banned shallow water drilling.

I'd like to see a cite on that young couple. Maybe I can send flowers.

Remember this president also sent billions of dollars to Brazil to help them drill for their oil off the coast. Obama even said that he wants the US to be their best customer. I guess he wants the US to be a customer of China as well. Canada sends them the oil and they sell us the gasoline. Complete and udder stupidity.

[waverunner234]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Consequences? Links?

Google yourself, you Lazyness

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Little Stevie

And none of the pipelines have EVER leaked without immediate detection and none of the LEAKS have ever made it through the ground or into bodies of water far enough to contaminate any aquifers. SURE!

Evidently you didn't find such an incident, or you would have posted a link to support your argument. Before man found a use for this stuff, it just oozed to the surface in useless pools of sticky, black pitch in places like Wyoming, Louisiana, California, Texas, Pennsylvania, etc.,: this stuff is a product of nature. Perhaps you have heard about La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles. Think of the drilling and pipelines as preemptive despoliation.

Originally Posted by Little Stevie

HELL, one East Texas pipeline leaked less than 10 years ago and the resulting pocket of leaked natural gas BLEW THE FUCKING SHIT out of a young couple who were minding there own business driving through the area when their car ignited the leaked natural gas.

Accidents happen and will continue to happen in every field of human endeavor. Technology has improved in the last 50 years, and it will continue to improve. Plus, at this point in history, the Keystone XL pipeline is certainly more viable than Solandra.

[TheDaliLama]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Stevie, you are truly an idiot. The backup plan is for Canada to pipe the oil to British Columbia, where it will be loaded on Chinese tankers.

Which is safer?

Pipelines or tankers?

When a pipe breaks you turn off a valve.

When a tanker leaks you have chaos.

Would you rather have american jobs and cheaper energy?

Or would you rather create Chinese jobs and have all that oil floating on the Pacific Ocean in Chinese Tankers?

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

We have thousands of miles of pipeline in the US which cause NO problem. This one wouldn't either. It's just President Obama sending more resources and jobs to China. Thanks, Mr. President!

Well they have had leaks in the Alaskan pipeline.Do any run through the area they are wanting to run this one?Just asking

[timpage]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

We have thousands of miles of pipeline in the US which cause NO problem. This one wouldn't either. It's just President Obama sending more resources and jobs to China. Thanks, Mr. President!

Yeah, we have thousands of off-shore oil rigs operating out there too....which cause NO prob....oh, wait.

He asked for some rerouting and additional safety measures in order to avoid a potential environmental catastrophe. It's reasonable and was the correct thing to do.

[LovingKayla]

Originally Posted by ekim008

Shame,but there was a lot of heat from residents of some states the line would run through.Like Nebraska,wanted to protect the aquifer.

Damn tree huggin hippies. Where's Cartman when you need him?